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70-year dream of aircraft carrier close to reality
South China Morning Post (SCMP) ^ | Apr 7, 2011 | Minnie Chan & Julian Ryall

Posted on 04/07/2011 6:47:42 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

70-year dream of aircraft carrier close to reality

Minnie Chan and Julian Ryall in Tokyo

Apr 7, 2011

Twenty high-resolution pictures of China's first aircraft carrier, the 67,500-tonne Varyag, appeared on the Xinhua website yesterday, with captions saying the vessel was almost finished and expected to sail this year.

It was the first time official state media reported on the nation's first aircraft carrier project as well as indicating its construction progress at a shipyard in Dalian , Liaoning .

The Xinhua report came as Japan's National Institute for Defence Studies released its annual strategic review, which said the influence of Chinese generals on military policy was declining.

It said while there had been a marked upswing in Beijing's assertiveness in the aftermath of the global financial crisis, that, too, had been toned down in recent months.

The Xinhua picture captions said refitting work on the Varyag, a Soviet-designed Admiral Kuznetsov-class carrier that China bought from Ukraine in 1998, was almost complete after more than a decade spent on reconstruction.

"A 70-year dream of an aircraft carrier that is all-Chinese will come true soon," one caption said, referring to a carrier proposal by the Kuomintang navy in the 1940s.

Citing the latest report of Canadian-based Kanwa Asian Defence Monthly, the captions confirmed the carrier would start sea trials this year after an active phased array radar system was installed on the vessel.

Andrei Chang, Kanwa's editor-in-chief, who has monitored China's carrier project for 20 years, said all the Xinhua photos of the vessel were the most recent he knew of.

"The pictures I used in the latest report of my magazine were shot in late February by our own photographer for an edition whose printing is not yet finished," he said, adding that the Xinhua photos clearly showed a month's progress since then.

"But those pictures carried by Xinhua all come from other mainland military websites, which might be taken by so-called mainland military enthusiasts."

It was at least the second time official media had quoted a source from the internet posted by military enthusiasts and overseas media to reconfirm Beijing's new weapon plans.

The first test flight of a new generation J-20 stealth fighter jet in January was another well-known example.

Chang estimated the carrier would undergo sea tests - including power system trials, harbour trials, close-range and high-sea trials - for about two years.

"After the sea trials are finished, it will also need at least eight years to test its radar and weapons systems such as the J-15, early warning planes and others on board," he said.

But China would have its first formal carrier fighting group in 10 years, after all the trials and tests were completed, he said.

"Since Varyag is a carrier for training purposes, it's possible that it will be equipped with magnetic or steam catapults instead of its originally designed ski-jump ramp take-off system," Chang said.

China's plan to develop its first aircraft carrier has been such an open secret that its seventh military white paper, issued last month, and an accompanying news conference both did not bother to mention it.

However, in December the State Oceanic Administration (SOA) revealed that Beijing put forward a plan for building aircraft carriers in its annual China Ocean Development Report in 2009.It said the State Council decided to make China a maritime superpower in 2003.

In late 2008, Beijing hinted for the first time that it was aiming to develop an aircraft carrier.

In November that year, PLA Major General Qian Lihua , director of the foreign affairs office of the Defence Ministry, told foreign media the world should not be surprised if China built an aircraft carrier.

In March 2009, Defence Minister General Liang Guanglie told his Japanese counterpart that China would not remain the only major power without an aircraft carrier forever. But the SOA report was the first official confirmation of China's carrier plans.


TOPICS: Extended News; Japan; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraftcarrier; armsbuildup; china; chinesemilitary; navair; plan; redchina; varyag
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Refitting work on China's first aircraft carrier

1 posted on 04/07/2011 6:47:45 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The Chinese history with large ships says they flirt iwth and build such items for a while, do stuff with them, then turn their back on the barbarian world outside and destroy their own navy.

We'll see if they are different this time. Frankly I think they are afraid of being "contaminated".

2 posted on 04/07/2011 6:52:37 AM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
After the sea trials are finished, it will also need at least eight years to test its radar and weapons systems such as the J-15, early warning planes and others on board

So...for about a decade, it's just an enourmous barge. How unimpressive.

3 posted on 04/07/2011 6:53:49 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I’m concerned China is soon going to be eating our lunch economically and militarily, and we have only our Presidents, Congress, Wall St and our former US corporations (now corps without a country) to blame. We handed them our economy and our market under the premise of fair trade and from that platform they are building their military.


4 posted on 04/07/2011 6:59:14 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Conservatism is about putting the USA first, not international bankers and corporations)
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To: apoliticalone
I’m concerned China is soon going to be eating our lunch economically and militarily

The first part has already happened. We must bring manufacturing back to the U.S..
5 posted on 04/07/2011 7:03:05 AM PDT by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: edpc

I think it takes the USA about 6 years, start-to-finish, to create one of our latest Nimitz Class carriers.


6 posted on 04/07/2011 7:05:17 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A 70-year dream of an aircraft carrier that is all(?) Chinese may come true soon, but, God forbid, in a shooting war between matched rivals, it’ll have a still-floating expectancy of about 70 seconds beyond the initiation of hostilities, given the capabilities of modern subs, missiles, and torpedos. In America, today’s Navy might be a gayed-down “Force for Good” that projects tsunami and earthquake relief and helps Obama alert a dictator who “needs to go” that his “inner circle knows their days are numbered”, and “the noose has tightened”, but in the real deal, surface ships are just waiting for their prioritized destruction.


7 posted on 04/07/2011 7:06:17 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: magslinger

ping


8 posted on 04/07/2011 7:09:13 AM PDT by Vroomfondel
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Does this mean the plan to turn it into a casino is defintely off the table?


9 posted on 04/07/2011 7:09:26 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Radioactive plume to hit USA. President Obama and family fly to Brazil)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
But China would have its first formal carrier fighting group in 10 years

And we will spend the decade, after ejecting Obama and cleaning up the mess he left behind, equipping all our carriers with megawatt-class Free Electron Lasers, equipping the F-35C/Pegasus UCAS with kilowatt-class FEL's for air combat and developing undetectable swarm weapons to fill Chinese skies and destroy any threat before it becomes airborne.

No, I am not asleep.

10 posted on 04/07/2011 7:13:46 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: sukhoi-30mki
But....But....But..But....But....But..But...I thought China had a Carrier Killing Missile! Why would they waste time on a ship that they (your lord and master the god like Chinese) have made obsolete

Maybe, just Maybe it is because they know there Missiles haven't made our Carriers obsolete..................................................................NAH! VICTORY TO THE PEOPLES STATE! (sorry just being your typical Debbie downer when it comes to the Chinese)

11 posted on 04/07/2011 7:17:38 AM PDT by KC_Lion (America is on the Brink of War with itself, and no one seems to notice or care.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki; Jeff Head
Good morning. Who reported that the Varyag was going to be a casino?

No matter, I still want to watch their carrier quals. Some beer, and hot dogs from about 2 miles away. My bet is they splash two planes, and have a fire on the flight deck the first day.

5.56mm

12 posted on 04/07/2011 7:19:04 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Rudder
That's true. The USS Ronald Reagan had its keel laid in 1998, was christened in 2001, and commissioned in 2003. However, it received flight deck certification in 5 months after its initial shakedown. That's a pretty big difference between the 8 years the article says they'll need after the Chinese carrier's 2 year sea trials.
13 posted on 04/07/2011 7:23:07 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: edpc

AND, assuming there are no cats on that jump deck, they should be able to do FLT deck certs in about 3 months.


14 posted on 04/07/2011 7:27:10 AM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: edpc; Rudder
One of the goals of the new Ford(shudder) Class is to reduce build time and the associated man hours. A big thing will be no steam cats. The steam system is large and takes a lot of time to fabricate and install. Running wires is easier.
15 posted on 04/07/2011 7:34:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: sukhoi-30mki

A Navy Cross waiting to happen.


16 posted on 04/07/2011 7:42:04 AM PDT by paddles ("The more corrupt the state, the more it legislates." Tacitus)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I would deploy all the Ford class vessels to the Atlantic. That way, we would be assured there’s no Soviet domination of Eastern Europe.


17 posted on 04/07/2011 7:42:11 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: KC_Lion

Maybe they aren’t planning to use their missile on their own carrier.


18 posted on 04/07/2011 7:45:19 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

The last Nimitz Class built, CVN GHW Bush, has no steam cats.


19 posted on 04/07/2011 7:52:56 AM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

I just don’t see how this will work. Every time they launch a plane, they’ll put holes in two or three sails and then they have to stop to stitch up the sails.


20 posted on 04/07/2011 8:07:37 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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