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Classical music still effective at dispersing loitering teens
LAT ^ | 04/04/11

Posted on 04/07/2011 7:40:01 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Classical music still effective at dispersing loitering teens

April 4, 2011 | 9:00am

With all sorts of the funding cuts hitting orchestras during the recent recession, there is still one aspect of classical music that local governments find valuable -- the music's unfailing ability to disperse loitering teenagers from public areas.

Whether its Handel piped into New York's Port Authority or Tchaikovsky at a public library in London, the sound of classical music is apparently so repellent to teenagers that it sends them scurrying away like frightened mice. Private institutions also find it useful: chains such as McDonald's and 7-Eleven, not to mention countless shopping malls around the world, have relied on classical music to shoo away potentially troublesome kids.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: classicalmusic; delinquents; loitering
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1 posted on 04/07/2011 7:40:04 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster

...And Rap music is effective in dispersing parents. (lol)


2 posted on 04/07/2011 7:41:30 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is really heartwarming!


3 posted on 04/07/2011 7:41:40 AM PDT by cartan
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Whatever volume Abercrombie plays in its retail stores has driven me out of there with a promise never to darken their doors again.


4 posted on 04/07/2011 7:45:30 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I found that playing “Hooked on a Feeling” by Blue Swede had the same effect.


5 posted on 04/07/2011 7:46:14 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: TigerLikesRooster
classical music to shoo away potentially troublesome kids

I'm sure these troublesome kids look just like those in the file photo that L.A. Times used for this story.


6 posted on 04/07/2011 7:46:22 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Roit, roit, roit..that Classical is sure to dis-perse me and me droogs Dim, Georgie, and Pete. We would sure run when we hear the Loveley Ludwig Van! Love, Alex DeLarge


7 posted on 04/07/2011 7:46:27 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I guess the whole Clockwork Orange is kind of implausible.
8 posted on 04/07/2011 7:47:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It disperses SOME teenagers. I always enjoyed classical music as a teen.


9 posted on 04/07/2011 7:48:28 AM PDT by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: DBrow

Dagnabbit.


10 posted on 04/07/2011 7:48:45 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: yldstrk
Whatever volume Abercrombie plays in its retail stores...


11 posted on 04/07/2011 7:49:00 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Of course Laz would hit it!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; cartan

I bought my 3 yr old grandaughter this DVD, and she loves it.

It features featuring Tchaikovsky, Bach, Mozart, Copland, and an animated sheep dance, "Sheep to Sheep" ala Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers.

12 posted on 04/07/2011 7:49:51 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: DBrow

Well, if classical music doesn’t work, perhaps a few tolchocks to the ol’ gulliver will do the trick.


13 posted on 04/07/2011 7:50:20 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: DBrow
Roit, roit, roit..that Classical is sure to dis-perse me and me droogs Dim, Georgie, and Pete. We would sure run when we hear the Loveley Ludwig Van! Love, Alex DeLarge

Sometimes the malchicks just need a little of the Ludovico technique to get the proper response to classical music.


14 posted on 04/07/2011 7:52:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: fhayek

Horrorshow response, fhayek, you are a good chelloveck.

The Powers That Be had best read Burgess before they pump classical into the little gullivers full of cal.


15 posted on 04/07/2011 7:54:08 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The unintelligent hate signs of intelligence.


16 posted on 04/07/2011 7:55:37 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: TigerLikesRooster

My daughter just made lead cello in the county youth orchestra, so I imagine it would attract her and her friends.....


17 posted on 04/07/2011 7:55:47 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I have a lot of fun with this.

Whenever I am near any of these punks who ride around with their radios blaring all that s**t a** rap music, I crank up a classical DVD I have as loud as I can.

You should see their faces. They don’t know what to do.


18 posted on 04/07/2011 7:57:58 AM PDT by 11johara28
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To: TigerLikesRooster

A local Burger King played old Bill Anderson Country Music songs over speakers in their parking lot and the kids cleared out real fast.


19 posted on 04/07/2011 8:00:21 AM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Inyo-Mono
A local Burger King played old Bill Anderson Country Music songs over speakers in their parking lot and the kids cleared out real fast.

Slim Whitman would make their heads explode.

20 posted on 04/07/2011 8:08:11 AM PDT by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: 11johara28

Excellent! I do the same thing - I just love their confusion.


21 posted on 04/07/2011 8:10:14 AM PDT by tisket ("So many guns around town and so few brains." - Humphrey Bogart in "The Big Sleep")
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To: PGR88
My daughter just made lead cello in the county youth orchestra, so I imagine it would attract her and her friends.....

But I thought the cello was a favorite of rappers, I saw an
album the other day with “Yo, Yo Momma” or something like
that on it.

22 posted on 04/07/2011 8:10:22 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: 11johara28

I do something similar when I hear that *rap music...except my music of choice is Muse. I crank up something like ‘Stockholm Syndrome’ or the riffs from ‘Assassin’ and it gets their attention...especially when they notice that I’m a rather demure-looking 38 y.o. mother of four.

(For anyone who is not familiar w/Muse, they are a British rock trio that’s been around since the late 90s. They won a Grammy for their album ‘The Resistance’ this year—and I don’t even think that’s some of their best work, I prefer ‘Absolution’ or ‘Black Holes and Revelations’. But like I say, any Muse is good Muse, LOL)

I do love classical music though. Maybe I’ll try going that route sometime...


23 posted on 04/07/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Change everything you are, everything you were, your number has been called.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
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24 posted on 04/07/2011 8:20:45 AM PDT by Sax
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To: PGR88

But your daughter and her friends wouldn’t be loitering. They have lives and probably (just guessing here) don’t have the time or the inclination for loitering. If they were in a mall they’d be shopping, and when they were through shopping they’d move on, most likely to home. Congrats to her.


25 posted on 04/07/2011 8:24:22 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (Palin/Cain 2012; Palin/Cain 2016; Cain/West 2020; Cain/West 2024; West/TBNL 2028...)
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

HCM: Does Muse bear any sound resemblance to Moby?


26 posted on 04/07/2011 8:25:47 AM PDT by OriginalChristian (Palin/Cain 2012; Palin/Cain 2016; Cain/West 2020; Cain/West 2024; West/TBNL 2028...)
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To: 11johara28

I used to have a little POC car for driving to work that would backfire loudly whenever I revved it up and let off the gas. Whenever somebody with loud offensive music got next to me, guess what I did? It was pretty loud, too; a couple of blast usually offended the offender. At the next red light, they would never come near me. Heh he he!


27 posted on 04/07/2011 8:30:05 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15: 1-14)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

***Classical music still effective at dispersing loitering teens***

LOL! This was being used to drive away loiterers thirty years ago! It works!

Classical music is great for driving away bums! If it doesn’t, put on some BOB WILLS and THE TEXAS PLAYBOYS! That will work (Except on me)!


28 posted on 04/07/2011 8:30:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: 11johara28

Heh heh!


29 posted on 04/07/2011 8:35:23 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
the regional transit department in the Portland, Ore., area has been playing orchestral and operatic tunes over speakers at light-rail stations

I love classical in general, but opera can be used to shoo me away.

30 posted on 04/07/2011 8:44:12 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: OriginalChristian

Thanks - yes you are absolutely correct. I wanted to point out not all young people dislike classical music. I wasted a lot of time as a youth, which I regret. My wife did not - and that’s where our children get their musical genes from. We both make sure that their schoolwork is up to snuff.

Kids crave structure and discipline. They also need real achievement to gain a positive self image. Kids are smart - they know who is good, who is bad, when someone has skill in something, and they compare.

Just telling them “you are special” is at best worthless, at worst, it teaches them that feel-good lies are acceptable, and clouds their judgement.


31 posted on 04/07/2011 8:47:19 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Given the penchant for the younger crowd to listen to rap and the likes of Lady Gaga, classical music probably causes brain overload.


32 posted on 04/07/2011 8:49:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

For those with a real eclectic taste try the music of old Opera like Henrico Caruso or even Luciano Pavorotti. Dem yutes will scatter like cockroaches hit with lights.


33 posted on 04/07/2011 8:50:47 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: CrazyIvan
I saw an album the other day with “Yo, Yo Momma” or something like that on it.

LOL I think that was a joke, right?

34 posted on 04/07/2011 8:52:45 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: rightly_dividing

Here’s my wish for a secret weapon to destroy the sound systems of auto’s blasting cRap noise posing as music. Just point the device in its direction and the super sonic reverse sine wave traces the sound to its source and destroys the speakers via reverse signal overload. Now if I can only invent such a weapon— it would be put to good use I promise that.


35 posted on 04/07/2011 8:57:59 AM PDT by tflabo
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To: Hoosier Catholic Momma

Muse has the awesomest bass player that ever plucked a 4-string. I’ve watched the video for ‘Hysteria’ over and over and I still can’t quite follow his fingers on the fret board.


36 posted on 04/07/2011 9:02:00 AM PDT by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; All
Classical music is only conventional weaponry in this struggle. If you want to go thermonuclear, just play “The Collected Works of Lawrence Welk and the Champagne Lady.”
37 posted on 04/07/2011 9:06:59 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: PGR88
I maintain it's because kids are no longer exposed to classic cartoons - Bugs Bunny and Tom&Jerry is where I learned my initial love of classical music without even knowing it.

How many kids today would recognize "the Lone Ranger" (i.e. Rossini) Tchaikovsky, Liszt or Wagner? We knew them all.

Sing with me now: "O Bwunhilda....you are so wuuuuv-wy"

38 posted on 04/07/2011 9:22:56 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Support the Dane Co voter reduction project - fire state union employees now!)
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To: Mygirlsmom
How many kids today would recognize "the Lone Ranger" (i.e. Rossini) Tchaikovsky, Liszt or Wagner? We knew them all.

"Eh, what's up, Doc? Who...? Franz Liszt? Never heard of him... Wrong number."

39 posted on 04/07/2011 9:27:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mygirlsmom
I maintain it's because kids are no longer exposed to classic cartoons - Bugs Bunny and Tom&Jerry

When I watch the insipid, PC cartoons today, like "Dora the Explorer" - they make me want to puke.

40 posted on 04/07/2011 9:39:46 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
With apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan:

"I've got a little Liszt. I've got a little Liszt. Some Bach, Beethoven, Mozart too. I've got a little Liszt."

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41 posted on 04/07/2011 9:45:03 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
have relied on classical music to shoo away potentially troublesome kids.

more evidence that the sense of life projected by the music one hates is a clue to one's own sense of life

42 posted on 04/07/2011 9:55:09 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: EricT.

I love Chris—he rocks! ‘Hysteria’ is pretty much my favorite of their songs, but it’s hard to choose. My daughter was playing ‘Assassin’ on Guitar Hero the other night. She said ‘that wasn’t so bad.’ I told her if she could play the bass from ‘Hysteria,’ she could die happy ;) She rolled her eyes at me because she knows that song, and knows it would be impossible for her! LOL

All my kids (ages almost 13 down to 3.5) love ‘Time is Running Out’ BTW :)


43 posted on 04/07/2011 10:01:59 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Change everything you are, everything you were, your number has been called.)
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To: dfwgator
My grandparents had an Aeolian Duo-art baby grand player piano. We thought it was a hoot - "pretending" to play like a virtuoso.

They had hundreds of music rolls - Gershwin playing Gershwin (how cool is that?), and my personal fave, Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 played by Jan Ignaz Paderiewski - the definitive recording of that piece IMHO (most pianists think it's a race to the finish and they play it entirely too fast - it needs to ebb and flow).

When I was 12 or 13 my grandfather called me on my birthday and played the entire roll for me over the phone. I thought it was the coolest thing ever, but then again, I've always been pretty geeky.

44 posted on 04/07/2011 10:02:53 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Support the Dane Co voter reduction project - fire state union employees now!)
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To: OriginalChristian

FWIW a comic strip a few years back tried to turn the tables and accuse deployers of classical music of ethnic stereotyping. A rapper dude bops into a business and asks,

“What it is, ma man? That be Schubert’s “Trout Quintet” you playin’ now?

“Why, uh, yes. You..you like it?

“Right on, dude! Ol’ Franz baby, he my DAWG!!

(Yeah, right)


45 posted on 04/07/2011 10:06:46 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam.)
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To: Mygirlsmom
the definitive recording of that piece IMHO (most pianists think it's a race to the finish and they play it entirely too fast - it needs to ebb and flow).

Who did the better job, Tom or Bugs Bunny?

Tom & Jerry - The Cat Concerto

Bugs Bunny - Rhapsody Rabbit

46 posted on 04/07/2011 10:07:21 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: OriginalChristian

I don’t know too much of Moby’s work, but I don’t think so. Maybe a more knowledgeable FReeper would be able to comment on that. Muse has one of the best bass players ever.


47 posted on 04/07/2011 10:08:11 AM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Change everything you are, everything you were, your number has been called.)
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To: Sir Gawain

Maybe not a good one, but yes.


48 posted on 04/07/2011 11:10:15 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (What's "My Struggle" in Kenyan?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I dunno...my 5 year-old often asks us to play Pavarotti when we get in the car...


49 posted on 04/07/2011 11:42:17 AM PDT by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: OriginalChristian

FWIW a comic strip a few years back tried to turn the tables and accuse deployers of classical music of ethnic stereotyping. A rapper dude bops into a business and asks,

“What it is, ma man? That be Schubert’s “Trout Quintet” you playin’ now?

“Why, uh, yes. You..you like it?

“Right on, dude! Ol’ Franz baby, he my DAWG!!

(Yeah, right)


50 posted on 04/07/2011 1:21:29 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca. Death to Islam.)
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