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How Postmodern Socialism Destroyed Spain
Pajamas Media ^ | April 7, 2011 | Soeren Kern

Posted on 04/07/2011 8:09:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 04/07/2011 8:09:52 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

How does Postmodern Socialism differ from plain old Socialism?


2 posted on 04/07/2011 8:12:39 AM PDT by Borges
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I figured this was inevitable once Spain declared human rights for apes. If their leaders can’t tell the difference between an ape and a human, I figured, they were in trouble.


3 posted on 04/07/2011 8:17:41 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Liberty, not License. Freedom, not Slavery.)
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To: Liberty1970

Very well said


4 posted on 04/07/2011 8:22:54 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

"MISS ME YET?"

5 posted on 04/07/2011 8:24:07 AM PDT by dfwgator
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reckless government spending, combined with voter apathy?

“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’

‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
— Robert A. Heinlein


6 posted on 04/07/2011 8:24:42 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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I personally think Rowland Atkinson would have done a much better job for Spain than Zapatero.


7 posted on 04/07/2011 8:34:49 AM PDT by Ozone34 ("There are only two philosophies: Thomism and bullshitism!" -Leon Bloy)
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No sympathies from me (for those EU countries in trouble). You can’t convince me that they didn’t know this would have been the outcome. They’ve made their own bed, so to speak.

The tragedy here is that with so many ample examples around, half of us, the Americans, are still pig-headed to ape those failed systems (either communism or socialism).


8 posted on 04/07/2011 8:43:00 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Borges

Good question. I’ve never heard the term before. As I read the article, I would take a stab at this definition. Old fashioned socialism is something that politicians and assorted pressure groups actively lead nations into, whereas postmodern socialism is something they kind of fall into, by a combination of mental laziness, cowardice, good intentions, denial and rank innumeracy.


9 posted on 04/07/2011 8:46:40 AM PDT by Vanders9
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Zapatero is just another slimy socialist. Total creep and his daughters look like a bunch of goth zombies.


10 posted on 04/07/2011 8:47:18 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: Sir Napsalot
You can’t convince me that they didn’t know this would have been the outcome.

I agree with all you said apart from this snippet. In my experience Human beings have an almost infinite capacity for self-deception.

11 posted on 04/07/2011 8:53:10 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: flowerplough; Choose Ye This Day

Thank you for posting that.


12 posted on 04/07/2011 8:54:35 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal
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To: Liberty1970

Spain is a pathetic, sad place. Zapatero is Bin Laden’s candidate.

Why the US is linked to them via NATO is beyond me. Get the US out of NATO before these and other sclorotic euro-losers collapse and pull us into another useless war on their behalf.


13 posted on 04/07/2011 8:55:26 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: Kaslin
Commies are not good at math. If they were, they would not be commies.

Even those who are capable of doing the calculations refuse to recognize a few simple answers:
There aren't enough rich people to milk to make everybody rich.
If you spend more than you can make, you'll go broke. It's as true for nations as it is for persons.
If you tax too much, you'll strangle the private economy to the point where you actually pull in less.
If you print too much money, prices inflate and no additional value is generated this way.

On the psychological side: If you constantly rob Peter to pay Paul, they will both ask "What's the point of working?".
And it goes downhill from here.

14 posted on 04/07/2011 9:05:30 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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Spanish Socialists, like many postmodern relativists, believe that all problems are by definition imaginary and can be wished away by avoiding negative thoughts. In an effort to downplay the scale of Spain’s economic troubles, the Socialist government has established a seven-year track record of using an arsenal of postmodern euphemisms to avoid unpleasantries and to create a virtual Spanish reality.


15 posted on 04/07/2011 9:43:57 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: flowerplough

JOHN ADAMS...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. ................


16 posted on 04/07/2011 9:46:26 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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Don’t forget that Zapatero was elected in the wake of the Madrid al-Qaeda bombings. Aznar (a relative conservative and Zapatero’s predecessor) initially pinned the bombings on Basque separatists; when it turned out to be al-Qaeda instead, the Spanish version of our MFM and Zapatero’s Socialists pounced and accused Aznar of “playing politics” with the bombing. The charge stuck, Zapatero won and began distancing himself from George W. Bush, and Spain effectively surrendered to al-Qaeda.

}:-)4


17 posted on 04/07/2011 9:46:35 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Vanders9
whereas postmodern socialism is something they kind of fall into, by a combination of mental laziness, cowardice, good intentions, denial and rank innumeracy.

Postmodernism essentially means that reality is created thru the use of words.

18 posted on 04/07/2011 9:53:38 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Kaslin

ping


19 posted on 04/07/2011 10:22:28 AM PDT by Wuli
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Yes, I fully remember that. Zapatero (Shoemaker) immediately proceeded to pull Spanish troops from the Iraq coalition. Zapatero and his ilk hate the United States and especially George Bush.Then this quote from Zapatero:

Think positive, he said: “To be optimistic is something more than a rational act. It is a moral requirement, an act of decency and, if I may say so, elegance.”

This is the same evil pig that destroyed the Catholic Church in Spain by forcing them to accept homosexual marriage laws. Then he has the stinking gull to lecture us about “morals”. Zapatero will go down in Spanish history as the most vile, evil, loathsome pedophile ever. May he rot in hell.


20 posted on 04/07/2011 10:38:06 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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