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Video: Trump argues with CNN anchor over Birtherism. He's up in the GOP polls too.
Hotair ^ | 04/07/2011 | Allahpundit

Posted on 04/07/2011 2:27:25 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

He argued about it with Meredith Vieira on the Today Show this morning too but Suzanne Malveaux was better prepared for him this afternoon.

Three things here.

One: I’m not sure why he thinks it’s so far-fetched that Neil Abercrombie, the new governor of Hawaii, would remember Obama as an infant. Granted, it’s an amazing coincidence that they’re both now prominent Democrats, but Obama Sr. and his wife must have made quite the striking couple in the early 60s when interracial marriage was still illegal in many states. I’ll bet a lot of people who met them and their little one at the time remember them.

Two: Unless Trump’s thinking of some other interview with Obama’s grandmother, Malveaux’s right that the whole “she admits he was born in Kenya!” meme is based on a misunderstanding. You can read the transcript of the key part of that interview here. She’s also right that some of The One’s childhood friends have reminisced about him publicly, contra what Trump claimed not long ago on “The View” about no one in his past remembering him (He seems to have dropped that talking point now.) If he’s serious about building a base by impressing Birthers, you would think he’d see these factual challenges coming and be ready to parry them.

Three: Some of the love for Trump in the polls right now is due to his willingness, as Rush Limbaugh says, to go right at Obama by bringing up subjects that his fans in big media has declared to be off the table. Okay, but that’s partly a function of the fact that the base is unenthused thus far about its choices for 2012, especially with tea-party rock stars like Palin, Pence, and Rubio sitting things out. If, say, Palin jumped in and started to “go right at Obama” on, say, spending, it’s easy to imagine the conservative reception for Trump’s Birther broadsides turning from amusement and applause for his fearlessness to annoyance and even anger that he’s sucking media oxygen away from more substantive lines of attack and making it easier for the media to “kookify” the GOP. No one has a problem with it now because no one’s in the race yet, just Pawlenty and Cain and a bunch of heavy hitters weighing their options. But once the race is on and we get deeper into policy (speaking of which, did Trump really tell Joe Scarborough that we should seize Iraq’s oil fields?), who’s going to want to hear this?

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birtherism; birthers; certifigate; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; palin; trump
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1 posted on 04/07/2011 2:27:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The lib talking heads trying to trump each other and Trump. Pretty fun day, so far.


2 posted on 04/07/2011 2:35:33 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: SeekAndFind

Maybe Trump is working for the GOP here. He’s bringing out the sticky issue as an outsider so that none of the mainstream candidates have to. He has the name recognition to do it and receive intervirews, but without a political career to put at risk from this line of attack.


3 posted on 04/07/2011 2:37:16 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll bet a lot of people who met them and their little one at the time remember them.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Except for the brain fried Abercrombie where are these other people?


4 posted on 04/07/2011 2:40:27 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: SeekAndFind

“there is lots of evidence on this side...”

Nice of DNCNN to admit they have a dog in the hunt.

Pray for America


5 posted on 04/07/2011 2:41:14 PM PDT by bray (The Recovery begins when Obama is unemployed!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t believe there ever was a “marriage” between Obama SR & Stanley Ann......interracial or not.

SR still had a wife in Kenya & a couple of kids.

She was a stupid 17 y/o who got herself in deep with ‘an exotic black man’ & got knocked up.

IF there was ANY KIND of CEREMONY—I will bet that it was a hippie/flower children thing done by whomever-—but it would have been bigamy on the part of SR to actually have participated in a Marriage Ceremony. Since he was a Foreign Aid student or an Exchange student, that would have jwopardized his status as such.

Has ANYONE found record of such a marriage or record of a divorce by these two???

Please advise.


6 posted on 04/07/2011 2:41:17 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the main reason Trump is up in the polls is becasue he doesn’t mind spitting in the opposition’s face.


7 posted on 04/07/2011 2:44:03 PM PDT by moovova (Obama...a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday...)
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To: SeekAndFind
I just watched the entire interview and, for my money, Trump beat Suzanne Malveaux like a rented mule.

Here's the money quote...

"Certificate of Live Birth doesn't prove anything...you can't even get a driver's license with a Certificate of Live Birth."

8 posted on 04/07/2011 2:44:42 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Onelifetogive

Having Trump is genious. He can roll around in the mud like a pit bull, dragging Obama down with him and make some other Presidential candidate, at a later date, look Presidential, even a “right wing Tea Party’er”.

Best...Strategery...Ever.


9 posted on 04/07/2011 2:44:53 PM PDT by UNGN (I've been here since '98 but had nothing to say until now)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

It’s is SUCH a Happy Feeling.. what Trump has given me! Oh yes indeed.

Finally the truth is coming out!


10 posted on 04/07/2011 2:46:51 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: SeekAndFind

Won’t it be a hoot if Trump makes the birth certificate issue hot enough that other candidates eventually have to pick up on it and take a stand as well?

I’ve never been a huge Trump fan but on his handling of this issue I think he’s quickly approaching brilliance.


11 posted on 04/07/2011 2:47:22 PM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: bray
“there is lots of evidence on this side...”

Then why hasn't he SHARED ANY OF IT???

BTW, thanks for your great work here at FR.

12 posted on 04/07/2011 2:50:18 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (I am declaring 2011 to be the year of ME!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
"Certificate of Live Birth doesn't prove anything...you can't even get a driver's license with a Certificate of Live Birth."

In which state?

13 posted on 04/07/2011 2:50:24 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: SeekAndFind

OMG thank you Donald Trump for finallyyyyyyyyy laying the smackdown on that smug tramp Suzanne Malveaux.


14 posted on 04/07/2011 2:50:45 PM PDT by exist
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To: SeekAndFind
trump doesn't have to get caught in all the minutia. The fact that zero's life is a black hole filled with BS is enough to take issue with. Any candidate that won't release his bc, transcripts and other documentation of his life is hiding something and should be smoked out.
15 posted on 04/07/2011 2:52:51 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: UNGN

Trump is doing it for Clinton , not republicans.


16 posted on 04/07/2011 2:54:25 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: UNGN

Trump is doing it for Clinton , not republicans.


17 posted on 04/07/2011 2:54:25 PM PDT by RED SOUTH (Follow me on twitter @redsouth72)
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To: SeekAndFind
Unless Trump’s thinking of some other interview with Obama’s grandmother, Malveaux’s right that the whole “she admits he was born in Kenya!” meme is based on a misunderstanding.

I've noticed Trump avoids the "stronger" birther arguments and focuses instead on things that are easily debunked.

18 posted on 04/07/2011 2:56:28 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: SeekAndFind
The blithering nasty idiot-savant allahpundit writes:
I’ll bet a lot of people who met them and their little one at the time remember them.
I'll take that bet for $600.
19 posted on 04/07/2011 2:57:25 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Onelifetogive
He has the name recognition to do it and receive interviews, but without a political career to put at risk from this line of attack.

And maybe there's a promise of an appointment to the "Court of Saint James" waiting at the end of the line? Just to patch things up. Also wouldn't it be nice if the Brits invited HIM to the wedding?

20 posted on 04/07/2011 2:58:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind
I’m not sure why he thinks it’s so far-fetched that Neil Abercrombie, the new governor of Hawaii, would remember Obama as an infant.

IIRC, Abercrombie claimed to see the baby O at or just after birth. Neil wasn't in Hawaii at that time.

21 posted on 04/07/2011 2:59:08 PM PDT by D-fendr
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To: ridesthemiles

Absolutely there is. IT was gotten by way of FOIA requests. There is documented proof of the Divorce.


22 posted on 04/07/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: bigbob

I’m with you big b...I haven’t been enthusiastic about Trump’s political ambitions, but this Nation is screaming for a real leader, and his attitude may just get him elected.


23 posted on 04/07/2011 3:00:10 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse (Obama; a skid mark on the undershorts of American history.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Unless Trump’s thinking of some other interview with Obama’s grandmother, Malveaux’s right that the whole “she admits he was born in Kenya!” meme is based on a misunderstanding. You can read the transcript of the key part of that interview here. She’s also right that some of The One’s childhood friends have reminisced about him publicly, contra what Trump claimed not long ago on “The View” about no one in his past remembering him (He seems to have dropped that talking point now.) If he’s serious about building a base by impressing Birthers, you would think he’d see these factual challenges coming and be ready to parry them.”

Yep. Donald keeps sticking his foot in it, thereby obscuring what should be a very straightforward, powerful and legitimate message. Carelessly tossing around claims that can be so easily refuted weakens his credibility, and the more the MSM easily outduels him on these irrelevant points, the less the average fence-sitter is going to believe him.


24 posted on 04/07/2011 3:01:14 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Danae

Certainly lifting my spirits!


25 posted on 04/07/2011 3:02:25 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: Kleon

Ask The Donald...it was his response, not mine.


26 posted on 04/07/2011 3:03:36 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: exist

YES, YES, YES. I can’t stand Malveaux. She is the biggest shill for Obama. It’s a black thing with her.


27 posted on 04/07/2011 3:04:21 PM PDT by rep-always
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To: moovova

Didn’t Obama Sr. die in a car crash?

Did the car explode one morning when he tried to start it? Any details?


28 posted on 04/07/2011 3:06:17 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: Onelifetogive

Pray that is the case.


29 posted on 04/07/2011 3:06:47 PM PDT by Josephat
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
You called it the "money quote," so I assumed you agreed with it.

Based on my experience, whenever someone says they can't use a COLB to get a drivers license in their state, I'm able to pull up the website and see they, in fact, can. Also, the Supreme Court recognizes Hawaii's certified copies as proof of birth for passport applications.

30 posted on 04/07/2011 3:07:30 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: RED SOUTH
Trump is doing it for Clinton , not republicans.

Maybe so, but it would split the Dems in half. Either way, the GOP wins. And if Trump actually ends up on the ballot, he will stop at nothing to win. He would certainly be a better president than Obama or Hillary.

31 posted on 04/07/2011 3:07:30 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (I'm sure that Obama loves his country, I'm just not sure which country is his.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Obama Sr. and his wife must have made quite the striking couple in the early 60s when interracial marriage was still illegal in many states. I’ll bet a lot of people who met them and their little one at the time remember them.”

Unfortunately, there’s NO evidence this “couple” EVER went around together since within weeks of the birth, Ann Obama had moved to Seattle to take fall classes at UW. Likewise, they lived in separate households. These are not the mark of a lovey-dovey couple.

What’s interesting is that in light of their having gotten married in Feb. when Ann already was 3-4 months pregnant, one might suppose that this ‘striking’ interracial couple would have been seen in public with Ann being “in a family way.” Yet I am not aware of a SINGLE account of someone who has come forward with such a memory. Like the dog that didn’t bark, the accounts that HAVEN’T come forward (even though by all logic they should have) are just as revealing as those that have.


32 posted on 04/07/2011 3:09:06 PM PDT by DrC
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To: SeekAndFind

“I’m not sure why he thinks it’s so far-fetched that Neil Abercrombie, the new governor of Hawaii, would remember Obama as an infant.”

Perhaps because, when pressed, Ambercrombie himself acknowledged that his first memories were of Obama as a child playing T-ball. http://www.innewstoday.net/abercrombie-admits-there-is-no-obama-birth-certificate/

He may well have known both Ann and Senior, but his account falls far short of proving Obama was born in Hawaii—especially since his first memories of Obama came after the 2 were divorced and after Ann had spent more than a year pursuing her studies at UW.


33 posted on 04/07/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by DrC
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To: wintertime

Abercrombie is 73 now. So he would have been 23 or something when dear little Barry was born. I remember almost none of the students in my college class the year I graduated.
I’d be more prone to believe Neil knew Stanley Ann because he got stoned with her than she, at 17, was a fascinating part an interracial hippie/socialist “couple” and had a baby.


34 posted on 04/07/2011 3:22:05 PM PDT by Rytas
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To: Kleon
You called it the "money quote," so I assumed you agreed with it.

Then you'd be mistaken.

I called it the money quote because it won the debate. I have no idea if it's true.

35 posted on 04/07/2011 3:25:50 PM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: SeekAndFind; All

The sad part is that the GOP and GOP media like Beck, Coulter, Breitbart, etc, have bought the Liberal Media spin.

If the GOP does not go all out on the Birther issue....they will be trounced in 2012. The cut and run recently by Marco Rubio, Allen West, and others will not sit too well on conservative Birthers. If you cannot stand up to Obama on this issue....you will back down on others

Real leadership is needed. The GOP better get its collective head out of its arse and get with the Birthers....stop acting like an Obama supporter


36 posted on 04/07/2011 3:26:16 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Donald Trump wants Obama's BC released...Glenn Beck attacks Birthers....Now, who is supporting Obama)
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To: Kleon
I've noticed Trump avoids the "stronger" birther arguments and focuses instead on things that are easily debunked.

That's okay, we've noticed you like to troll these threads.

37 posted on 04/07/2011 3:29:28 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: RED SOUTH

Trump is doing it for Clinton , not republicans.


And the GOP is aiding and abetting Obama by not adressing the issue

I doubt Trump is doing this “just for Hillary”.....he has enough money and clout to push Hillary’s campaign without bringing up the Birther issue. If any of this recent Birther events is linked to Hillary...her career is over


38 posted on 04/07/2011 3:31:07 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Donald Trump wants Obama's BC released...Glenn Beck attacks Birthers....Now, who is supporting Obama)
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To: Danae
It’s is SUCH a Happy Feeling.. what Trump has given me! Oh yes indeed.

Amen FRiend!!!

39 posted on 04/07/2011 3:31:19 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Except that there is no evidence that Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Obama I ever lived together with their young child in Hawaii. Abercrombie appears to be the only one that remembers that happening.


40 posted on 04/07/2011 3:48:07 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Does anyone know if his mother is still alive? I read where she went to Washington State to go to college but what happened to her after that.


41 posted on 04/07/2011 3:52:38 PM PDT by Newfy
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To: Danae

Nope. No divorce because SR. was already married to at least one other woman in Mombasa. Bigamy may be legal in Kenya but it ain’t legal here. Any “marriage” by Stanley Anne and Barack SR. would have been fraudulent from the git go. No marriage=no divorce


42 posted on 04/07/2011 3:59:24 PM PDT by atc23
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To: DrC
DrC,

There are real investigators working this case now, not a bunch of sympathizing MSM hacks. Let's see how much of the BS that has been peddled by the MSM will stand up as these sleuths go to work. There is no where in the world they will not go to dig out the truth and that includes Kenya. I bet they have a blank check from Trump to get the job done. Now, that ought to make more than a few very, very nervous. I'll bet there is a canary or two out there who still remembers how to sing.

43 posted on 04/07/2011 4:18:57 PM PDT by iontheball
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To: All
The Dept. of State has issued NEW rules for U.S. passports, including requiring a birth certificate, to wit:

Updated March 23, 2011

New U.S. Birth Certificate Requirement

Beginning April 1, 2011, the U.S. Department of State will require the full names of the applicant’s parent(s) to be listed on all certified birth certificates to be considered as primary evidence of U.S. citizenship for all passport applicants, regardless of age. Certified birth certificates missing this information will not be acceptable as evidence of citizenship. This will not affect applications already in-process that have been submitted or accepted before the effective date.

[snip]

In addition to this requirement, certified copies of birth certificates must also include the following information to be considered acceptable primary evidence of U.S. citizenship:

Full name of the applicant

Date of birth

Place of birth

Raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal of issuing authority

Registrar’s signature

The date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office (must be within one year)

Can Obama obtain a passport now? Just asking.

44 posted on 04/07/2011 4:19:26 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: moovova

“I think the main reason Trump is up in the polls is becasue he doesn’t mind spitting in the opposition’s face.”

Best reason I’ve heard so far.....HE’S GOT REAGAN BLOOD!


45 posted on 04/07/2011 4:23:48 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: Newfy; Danae
Does anyone know if his mother is still alive? I read where she went to Washington State to go to college but what happened to her after that.

Do you mean Obama's mama? She died a while back but I don't recall the reason. Danae, can you help?

46 posted on 04/07/2011 4:25:04 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

.

Trump isn’t backing up his statements with very good
facts.

The facts re; BC fraud, not natural born citizen:

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=fake+birth+certificate&sa=Search#1115

http://www.theobamafile.com/SearchResults.htm?cx=partner-pub-5800558700131855%3Axe3q1mlexqs&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=natural+born+citizen&sa=Search#1115

How to reach Trump:

http://shouldtrumprun.com/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/your-voices/
http://shouldtrumprun.com/contact-us/

Herman Cain

info@hermancain.com

.


47 posted on 04/07/2011 4:28:00 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: atc23
Obama & Stanley were never married. They had a one night stand/otherwise known as possibly date rape.... they shipped her off IMMEDATIALY to British Columbia to a Woman's Home, She never saw Obama Sr again until the 70’s. She birthed him at the Woman's home. They took care of the baby and HER for a couple of weeks. She moved back to Seattle, couldn't change a diaper because the Woman home ladies were doing everything and then she went to school.

They were never married, had a one night stand, she got knocked up, didn't have an abortion, moved to Canada to have the baby and visited her high school friend a few weeks after she had the baby. She DID NOT travel fully pregnant. She traveled as soon as she missed her first period after it was discovered she was pregnant and they shipped her to a Woman's home.

AND his name is BARRY. Barry was the 61st out of 1000 most popular boy names in 1962.

http://www.weddingvendors.com/baby-names/popular/1962/

His legal name is STILL Barry.

48 posted on 04/07/2011 4:34:09 PM PDT by train
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To: atc23
Nope. No divorce because SR. was already married to at least one other woman in Mombasa

Sorry but you're wrong.

Google it, the document is on line.

49 posted on 04/07/2011 4:35:55 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: train

Not disputing anything you posted accept for the marriage part.

Why are there court records of their divorce?


50 posted on 04/07/2011 4:38:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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