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Trump, Not as a 2012 Candidate,but as a Blueprint
Creators.com ^ | April 8, 2011 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 04/08/2011 2:34:35 AM PDT by Scanian

My brother, Rush, said on his program Thursday that Donald Trump, in taking the fight directly to President Obama, has provided a winning blueprint for defeating him in 2012.

Rush was referring to the way in which Trump — think what you will about him and his politics — has boldly challenged President Obama on a number of issues, including the notorious birth certificate fracas, obviously unconcerned about fallout from the liberal media.

The issue here is not Obama's birth certificate; it is Trump's aggressive, offensive posture in challenging Obama across the board. He rightly recognizes that America's financial condition is in shambles and contends that Obama's incoherent approach to foreign policy is making the U.S. a laughingstock in the international community.

Trump is not my candidate for a number of reasons, including that I don't believe he's been reliably conservative over the years, but I have no doubt that Republicans can learn great lessons from his direct, fearless approach.

The first application of the Trump blueprint should be the congressional Republicans' approach to the budget war, in both the short-term battles over the umpteenth continuing resolution and the battle over Rep. Paul Ryan's long-term budget proposal.

Too many Republicans have paralyzed themselves with fear about the potential negative fallout from a government shutdown over this year's budget. They believe Bill Clinton successfully pinned the blame on Newt Gingrich over the shutdowns of 1995 and 1996 and greatly damaged GOP electoral prospects as a result. They believe the liberal media will be able to crucify Republicans.

Let me tell you — in a nutshell — why I believe Republicans must not succumb to their fear and compromise on the $61 billion and why my conservative colleagues should not be squeamish about this path.

(Excerpt) Read more at creators.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; defeatobama; donaldtrump; fearlessapproach; rush; thedonald; trump; trump2012
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1 posted on 04/08/2011 2:34:39 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

When I think about what a pansy-a^# campaign McCain ran against Obummer in 2008 it makes me sick. I hope we run a strong, tackle Obama on his record (there’s a ton there to attack)campaign. My daughter said that she was very impressed with how Trump spoke on Fox news last week (Hannity?) and she thinks he has the “skills set” and business smarts to make a good run. I am not yet sold on “THE DONALD” but one thing is for CERTAIN - atleast he is PRO PRIVATE ENTERPRISE and that is what America needs...our businesses have been ravaged by this administration’s socialist policies.


2 posted on 04/08/2011 2:45:21 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: Scanian
..Dumbo is getting Trumped
3 posted on 04/08/2011 2:45:59 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Scanian

He is right.


4 posted on 04/08/2011 2:51:50 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty

What ever he is up to, I don’t see how conservatives can complain about the way he is bringing Zer0 back under scrutiny.

His detractors have nothing to use but cheap insults and ridicule.

The guy is apparently rich enough to be completely fearless.

I understand it. I am so poor that I am utterly fearless. Nothing to lose.

Strangely, it works about the same way. Which is why I find Donald relatable.


5 posted on 04/08/2011 2:56:28 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian; All

Good article....however I think Trump is truly a legitimate candidate...and the GOP better hope he does not run as an Independent.

David Limbaugh is correct that the GOP needs to stop acting like wussies in regard to Obama. However, that includes going after Obama on the Eligibility issue. When even Marco Rubio and Allen West are cut-and-run and supporting Obama on the Eligibility issue....2012 will be a bad year for the GOP.

One thing Trump is also raising....which the GOP better correct course on....is slapping tariffs on Communist China. The Birther issue has taken this Trump issue off the ledger for now....but Trump also has pushed for tariffs on Communist China....something that we need to do....but the GOP (with the Democrats) are still going Communist on the Free Trade issue. Free Trade with Communist China is killing this country....and the GOP will be the third party in 2012 if an independent runs raising the Free Trade Communist issue.

Its time to get into the 21st Century and stop pushing the failed Free Trade Communist Globalist agenda. Supporting Communism and Obama is no way for the GOP to win in 2012


6 posted on 04/08/2011 3:04:08 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Donald Trump wants Obama's BC released...Glenn Beck attacks Birthers....Now, who is supporting Obama)
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To: Scanian
"My brother, Rush, said on his program Thursday that Donald Trump, in taking the fight directly to President Obama, has provided a winning blueprint for defeating him in 2012."

BOOM!!! Can ya hear that thunder now?

7 posted on 04/08/2011 3:06:01 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam...but I repeat myself.)
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To: Scanian

Along the lines of what I’ve been thinking for a while. Broad Front Strategy. Bring out a large field of Republican candidates that will all attack the Dems and Obama. See which one has the best luck breaking through the media’s defensive line, and then nominate them. I’ve never been a Trump fan, but I give it to the guy for taking the fight to the enemy.


8 posted on 04/08/2011 3:10:12 AM PDT by SampleMan (If all of the people currently oppressed shared a common geography, bullets would already be flying.)
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To: Scanian
Clinton MAY have won the govt shutdown Battle BUT he LOST the WAR......Monica brought him the pizzas during the shutdown and he got IMPEACHED BECAUSE OF KYING TO A FEDERAL JUDGE!!!!!

Hey PUBBIES....get some SPINE!!

9 posted on 04/08/2011 3:11:46 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

Marco and Allen support Obama on eligibility?

How did I miss that? Do you have a link?

One problem is that these people who blow off the issue rarely take the time to THOROUGHLY investigate it. They would prefer to take the opinion of some swell-headed so-called intellectual like George Will and run with it.

But I have never, ever known anybody who truly looked into it who didn’t become extremely suspicious about Zer0’s origins.


10 posted on 04/08/2011 3:14:34 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Let’s give Paul Ryan some credit too. After the Dems succeeded in getting the budget issue down to “either 60 or 30 billion” Ryan came through with his 6 trillion over ten years budget and broke the game open.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 3:17:33 AM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: ez

I give Ryan all the credit in the world. A very smart young man. I’ll never forget the way he made Zer0 moan and frown at that healthcare taffy pull in Baltimore. 0 knew he’d met his match.

I only wish Paul would hack more.

Rand Paul’s $500 billion would be a start.


12 posted on 04/08/2011 3:21:30 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
"When even Marco Rubio and Allen West are cut-and-run and supporting Obama on the Eligibility issue....2012 will be a bad year for the GOP."

Rubio is a known racist with ties to radical Latino racial organizations including La Raza.

I don't know Alan West's motivations for supporting the Usurper, but either way you cut it, he is a traitor to his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

13 posted on 04/08/2011 3:24:52 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: Scanian

Had Trump put his money where his mouth is, the TEA party could have had more candidates elected in 2010. I’m not buying any epiphany on his part.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 3:25:09 AM PDT by Son House (Finally, People Lie, Because They Feel If They Tell The Truth, They Won't Get What They Want.)
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To: Scanian
David's exactly right. I'm skeptical about Trump, but he is showing the best way to defeat Dumbo in 2012. You have to hit him on all these issues and to hell with what the MSM tries to do to you. Along with the birther issue, Trump is bringing up the China trade issue, Iranian nukes and energy independence. These issues are overshadowed by the eligibility issue, proving that Obama's lemmings can only attack on one front at a time.

Whoever the nominee is needs to follow this strategy of keeping Hussein on defense. He really has no record to point to.

15 posted on 04/08/2011 3:28:13 AM PDT by YankeeReb
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To: ez

Problem Is Boner is already Caving ,when he came out of the White Hut yesterday he said they were close to a deal and he said he was at 40 Billion in cuts ,what Happened to the 100?


16 posted on 04/08/2011 3:31:34 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Scanian
Rush is right, again. Any conservative is cheering the Donald on right now, but that doesn't make him the best POTUS candidate. But he is providing the 'BluePrint' to the right candidate, and Congress, for how to wage this campaign.

That said, I've seen enough to put Donald ahead of Romney and Huckabee for POTUS. Low bar, I know.

17 posted on 04/08/2011 3:34:04 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free!)
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To: Scanian
What ever he is up to, I don’t see how conservatives can complain about the way he is bringing Zer0 back under scrutiny.

There are some Republicans who never liked the Tea Party. Felt threatened by it. And now that Trump has taken them under his wing admitting to be a Tea Party himself it only threatens those ani-tea party republicans even more. You know, the establishment. So, those republicans do not like what they see with Trump holding the number two place among the Tea Party and number one among Constitutionalists.

18 posted on 04/08/2011 3:38:56 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Servant of the Cross

What’s the hurry anyway? There won’t be any primaries for, what, 8 months?

IMHO, they should all have a chance to make their best case and then show up ready to go when the debates start.

I do agree with the L. bros. that Trump’s aggression should be emulated by the others.

Obama looks fairly weak-—IF he is hit hard and constantly exposed.


19 posted on 04/08/2011 3:40:07 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: tsowellfan

Those RINOs (establishment GOP) need to fish or cut bait.

If the stuff the tea party does (or Trump for that matter) bothers them so much, maybe they ought to just drag their ass over to the other side of the aisle.

They break their backs reaching over there all the time anyway.

So hit the road, RINOs. You are obsolete.


20 posted on 04/08/2011 3:44:04 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
What’s the hurry anyway? There won’t be any primaries for, what, 8 months?

I think the sense of urgency comes from what we see Obama doind and how he's destroying the nation.

You are right. There is time.

21 posted on 04/08/2011 3:46:54 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Scanian

Trump plays to win. He reminds me of Patton in many ways.


22 posted on 04/08/2011 3:47:06 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

New Video he uploaded yesterday answering questions of those who sent them to his Twitter and YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/trump#p/a/u/0/0l4RMGDmoTU


23 posted on 04/08/2011 3:49:42 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: Ann Archy
Monica brought him the pizzas during the shutdown

Some people will believe anything. I doubt the White House kitchen closes up and the President must rely on volunteers to bring in take-out food during a "shutdown."

ML/NJ

24 posted on 04/08/2011 4:15:00 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
It was sworn testimony.

Some people have NO manners or class.

25 posted on 04/08/2011 4:18:52 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Godebert
I thought this new half-pint Governor of Hawaii, Neill Abercrombie, was supposed to settle this birth certificate issue ones and for all when he got elected in November of last year.
<P.
They still don't know which Hospital he was born in. Maybe his mother gave birth in a ditch after that HO Chasing, wife beating, drunk driving scumbag father skipped town.
26 posted on 04/08/2011 4:19:49 AM PDT by wmileo
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To: Scanian
The issue here is not Obama's birth certificate

Yes it is.

It looks like Rush has his brother running a little interference for him.

Sure, there's lots of issues. But most of them require some understanding of what is going on. Many people are not sophisticated to understand that free medical care isn't free, to their neighbors at least.

But the birth certificate issue, not necessarily the natural born aspect, is so simple that virtually everyone understands it. Everyone understands it because at one time or another, they had to produce a birth certificate and they thought nothing of doing so.

I think it is so simple that at some point, Obama could be forced to resign if he doesn't produce at least a forgery.

The only complicating issue would be how many others would be seen as complicit in Obama's fraud, and what might they do to save their own skins.

ML/NJ

27 posted on 04/08/2011 4:24:37 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Ann Archy
Some people have NO manners or class.

And some lack brains apparently, or have never heard of perjury.

ML/NJ

28 posted on 04/08/2011 4:27:04 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: tsowellfan

Why does he look like he’s sitting at some peon’s desk? That doesn’t look the way the Donald’s office ought to look.


29 posted on 04/08/2011 4:35:13 AM PDT by Huck (Mitch Daniels is my choice among the potentials, which of course means he has no chance.)
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To: Scanian; All

At the very least instead of going after Trump on this his detractors should be shrewd (I’m looking at all the Palin supports specifically but it really applies to everyone). Try something like this,

“It’s a huge distraction, I wish the President would just put out his long form BC and stop the Trumps of the world dead in their tracks. The country really can’t afford to be further divided by these silly allegations”

Or how about about this one, “Unless I’m proven otherwise the President of the United States was born in the United States but to the extent that it would help questions like this being asked of me I would hope he would release his Long form Birth certificate”

Don’t work with the media to destroy Trump, that is quite foolish


30 posted on 04/08/2011 4:47:24 AM PDT by wiseprince
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To: Scanian
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Married January 1936. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

31 posted on 04/08/2011 4:50:04 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Scanian

In the 2008 campaign, Obama showed that he has a glass jaw and cannot stand to be criticized. If Trump and others in the GOP stay on the offense and hit him where it hurts, he won’t be able to recover. I predict we’ll see more not-to-subtle middle finger head scratches from Obama during the 2012 debates.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 4:51:42 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: CASchack
not- to so -subtle
33 posted on 04/08/2011 4:54:56 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: CASchack

There you go. Approach it like young Larry Holmes used to do in his fights-—jab, jab, jab, keep them off balance, then jab some more until a knockout opportunity presents itself.


34 posted on 04/08/2011 5:06:23 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: wiseprince
the Resident of the United States was born in the United States

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

35 posted on 04/08/2011 5:07:15 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Huck
Why does he look like he’s sitting at some peon’s desk? That doesn’t look the way the Donald’s office ought to look.

I don't know. I'm more interested in the budget right now and how the liberals are bashing the republicans with hopes that they'll cave. I'm not into bashing republicans right now I'm into bashing the democrats.

36 posted on 04/08/2011 5:51:41 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
the GOP needs to stop acting like wussies in regard to Obama.

The GOP has been like the Libyan rebels. Full of bravado and posturing, going into battle firing in the air for effect and providing themselves with false sense of strength and importance. Once they come under attack, they turn tail and run..............

37 posted on 04/08/2011 6:18:38 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Huck

I’m looking, I don’t even see his desk, but my guess is he’s too rich to care if his desk impresses or not! :)


38 posted on 04/08/2011 6:32:14 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Public education is WELFARE.)
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To: ml/nj

The issue here is not Obama’s birth certificate

Yes it is.


The bigger issue Obama potentially has that more Americans would immediately recognize is the purported use of multiple and perhaps a fraudlent SSN!!!

Wait until The Donald begins raising this issue in the LSM. They will flip out.


39 posted on 04/08/2011 7:03:06 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Godebert
I don't know Alan West's motivations for supporting the Usurper, but either way you cut it, he is a traitor to his oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

Do you have a link to a quote of Allen's supporting this?

40 posted on 04/08/2011 7:04:57 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: Vor Lady
Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House… “What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”

West is a coward and a traitor.

41 posted on 04/08/2011 7:31:01 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: ml/nj; Ann Archy
Oh, Shut up, ml/mj - it was sworn testimony and besides, everyone knows Bill Clinton prefered junk food to White House prepared "meals" - They were bringing Domino's pizza and Mickey D's burgers. That's right you can't get that stuff from the WH Chef at 2AM
42 posted on 04/08/2011 7:43:59 AM PDT by atc23
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To: Godebert

Thank you for your reply. I didn’t know he said this. Was this at a town hall meeting? Is it from a youtube vid?


43 posted on 04/08/2011 7:57:55 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: Vor Lady

http://theconservativediva.net/allen-west-advises-conservatives-to-focus-on-obamas-radical-policies/


44 posted on 04/08/2011 8:01:18 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: GlockThe Vote

Agreed. I say let Trump run. Its a free country lets see what he is made of. I would love to see him in the debates again’st the others. If they carefully parse every word terrified of calling BHO out Trump will look great in comparison just because he will come right out and say what he thinks. IMO people are so ticked off right now they will cheer anybody who just stands up and tells it like it is.


45 posted on 04/08/2011 8:07:01 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Godebert

Thanks again. Food for thought.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 8:13:04 AM PDT by Vor Lady
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To: Godebert

You say West is a coward and a traitor because he puts the birth certificate issue on a back burner. Then that makes Rush a coward and traitor as well and I won’t listen to him ever again. /sarc


47 posted on 04/08/2011 8:23:55 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: New Jersey Realist
"Then that makes Rush a coward and traitor as well and I won’t listen to him ever again."

Yes, Limbaugh is a coward and a traitor.

48 posted on 04/08/2011 8:35:23 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: ballplayer
Not this again...

Problem Is Boner is already Caving ,when he came out of the White Hut yesterday he said they were close to a deal and he said he was at 40 Billion in cuts ,what Happened to the 100?

These are cuts for the second half of fiscal year 2011. Some cuts were already enacted through prior continuing resolutions. The $100 billion was for 2012, see the Paul Ryan roadmap. The current "shutdown" debate is cleanup of the mess the Democrats left by refusing to pass any budget for this year.

49 posted on 04/08/2011 8:43:18 AM PDT by newzjunkey (OBAMA & his DEMOCRAT allies are starving children & killing the elderly.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy

things are getting more interesting than I expected.
That Titcomb arrest is a winner.


50 posted on 04/08/2011 8:55:50 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (Palin '12 begins in '11. In western New Hampshire pour moi.)
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