Skip to comments.(Wisconsin)High-profile lawyers retained for possible Supreme Court recount
Posted on 04/08/2011 4:55:41 AM PDT by PapaBear3625
Kloppenburg's campaign is working with Marc Elias, an attorney with Perkins Coie, a Washington D.C.-based firm with an office in downtown Madison. Elias is the same attorney who represented Democratic challenger Al Franken in his eight-month epic recount battle with incumbent Republican Norm Coleman. Franken eventually prevailed, winning his U.S. Senate seat by 312 votes.
Prosser has hired Ben Ginsberg, a Washington-D.C. attorney who played a prominent role in the 2000 Bush-Gore presidential recount effort in Florida. He was also part of the team that represented Coleman in his recount effort. Prosser has also retained Madison attorney Jim Troupis, and Dan Kelly, who is based in Milwaukee.
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But this is a good thing.
The error that resulted in the Prosser undercount only affected the unofficial numbers reported to the press. Unofficial numbers have no validity.
There is no question that the official tally was correct — the vic-chair of the County Democrat Party in question already is on record as saying the votes are valid.
Any appeal will go to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. If they vote on basis of the law, they will uphold Prosser’s election 8-0 (Prosser cannot vote). If they vote based on party affiliation it will go 4-4, which still seats Prosser, because he is currently ahead.
7000 votes (out of 1.5 million) is really outside the margin of fraud, especially three days after an election. It is easy to manufacture votes on election day or the day after, but becomes more difficult on subsequent days. It becomes exponentially more difficult *after* the official canvass. Not saying it cannot be done, but it is hard, and ginning up 7500 or so is going to be really hard.
High-profile lawyers are expensive and money spent on them is money that will be unavailable to the Union thugs in the 2012 campaign.
What an amazing coincidence!
actually they may be overreaching here....after Florida 2000, Maria Cantwell, Al Franken, I think the American people are getting good and weary of having their elections being decided by lawyers (whom they generally loathe in the first place)
That’s the same thing as telling them to go home - “from whence they sprang”
Voter ID and CCW are critical bits of legislation for the months ahead ( CCW to put a lid on any ideas of extreme union thuggery ).
They have the SOS and certainly Dane County judges on their side.
Some good news has already come of this...the tons of money the outsiders and unions pumped into this race is down a rat hole now. That is less money for future endeavors.
More good news, this should remove some of the onus from the recall activities too.
Lastly, if a relative conservative can be elected in Wisconsin, that bodes not so well for the Great Pretender. If Trump does not get him, an awakened electorate just might.
It’s good to see that Republicans aren’t just going to roll over for this.
No, it doesn’t. If you read the statute, you’ll see what’s allowed at what percentages and vote levels. In this case, it’s slightly over 1/2 of 1% which entitles either candidate to request a recount of any ward at $5 per ward. Over 2% and the candidate pays the full cost and has to have court permission. At less than 1/2 of 1% the state pays for it.
We don’t have to let them control the enforcement arm if we don’t want them to.
Bingo! But unfortunately, it's the WI taxpayers who are footing the bill. Even if they don't support what the unions or doing and voted for Prosser, their taxes pay WI public sector workers and part of their pay goes to the unions. This is what is so onerous about public sector unions. The taxpayers have no seat at the table.
7,000 votes is an impossible hurdle. A standard recount is likely add to Prosser's lead as my bet is more Klop votes get negated than Prosser ones in a recount.
What Klop's lawyers might instead try do is either get those recently added votes tossed out for some reason or raise enough issues to get the election thrown out and a new election ordered.
You can bet there would be no small number of Dane County voters who would gladly go on record as witnessing all kinds of voting irregularities - even if they were fabrications. If they'll dispense and use phony medical excuses, they'll stop at nothing.
The shame is that if all those Waukesha Prosser votes were tallied the night of the election, Klop would most like have conceded and this would probably be a non-issue. Now it's just going to drag on and end up angering people and raising even more doubts about fair elections - even if it was just a clerical mistake.
“Meanwhile, the WI repubs need to put together a Voter ID bill, and get it passed no later than next week.”
Actually, yesterday I heard that they had done that already — that it was one of the pieces of legislation passed while the Democrat Senators were flee-bagging. Eliminated same-day registration and vouching, too.
I might be wrong. I am from Texas and do not follow Wisconsin politics that closely.
Personally, I'd like a recount - as long as it is just that, and not a re-vote with "judges" scrutinizing every spoiled ballot to discern some obscure "voter intent." A fair recount would take nearly all the wind out of the 'Rat's sails. Any further wrangling would show how disingenuous they are about valuing a fair election.
“What Klop’s lawyers might instead try do is either get those recently added votes tossed out for some reason or raise enough issues to get the election thrown out and a new election ordered.”
Possibly, but the Wisconsin Supremes are the ones that ultimately throw out an election, and you need better than a 4-4 decision for that. So Prosser collects passes “GO” and collects his tokens. And if it goes to the US Supreme Court it should be a minumum of 5-4 in favor of upholding the election, and more likely 6-3 or even 7-2.
Regardless, as long as the appeals drag on Prosser remains the fifth vote on the WSC deciding the Union defunding bill.
I suppose that “we” wanted to then,because when the traitors put obama in the White House this gave the control of the DOJ to obama and in anyone believes that the DOJ, as administered by Holder impartially enforces the law,well, the nicest thing I can say is that they are beyond help.
Thankfully, Prosser is already in office. This can't be negated.
Obama won WI 56%-42% in 2008. He would have to work a LOT harder if (1) much less union money, and (2) it was harder to commit vote fraud. Every state which his task is harder, is a state where he has to spend more money. Every bit helps.
You’re right. The WI Assembly passed Voter ID while the fleebaggers were away and sent it to the Senate. Because implementing the law involves state expenditures (for ex. providing picture IDs for the poor), the Senate couldn’t act until the fleebaggers returned. I think the new session begins very soon.
If the votes were already manufactured but held back until and unless needed, we’re not talking aboout that many ballots salted throughout rat strongholds. Don’t forget about same-day provisional ballotting. I think that’s their ace in the hole.
Between the provisionals and “found” ballots, they only need about 25k votes in areas that went about 65% for Klopp to get there. 25k ballots is less than 2% of the total vote right now.
It’s doable with experienced attorneys and willing judges.