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One dead in Brit nuke sub horror
the sun ^ | 04/08/11 | staff writer

Posted on 04/08/2011 7:46:58 AM PDT by maine yankee

ONE person has died and another is in a life-threatening condition after a shooting on board the nuclear submarine HMS Astute

(Excerpt) Read more at thesun.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: astute; banglist; brtitsh; bubbleheads; shooting; submarine
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The dead man was believed to have been a naval officer serving on the state-of-the art submarine, which is currently docked in Southampton. Officers arrested a man after the shooting but said the incident was not terror-related and there was no risk to the public
1 posted on 04/08/2011 7:47:02 AM PDT by maine yankee
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To: maine yankee

My prediction: homosexual.


2 posted on 04/08/2011 7:48:25 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
My prediction: homosexual.

My prediction: the dead guy was schtupping the shooter's wife.

3 posted on 04/08/2011 7:49:43 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: maine yankee

The article also said that the local mayor and others were aboard doing a tour. Could it have been a disgruntled local?

Since they didn’t say who the shooter was yet...only speculation.


4 posted on 04/08/2011 7:51:13 AM PDT by hoagy62 (Help stamp out crack-pull up your pants.)
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To: hoagy62
Just so we're all on the same page:

It's pronounced "HOR-uhh".

5 posted on 04/08/2011 7:52:20 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: maine yankee

This is clearly a false report. There’s no gun crime in Britain: They have gun control. /sarc


6 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:03 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: maine yankee

This is clearly a false report. There’s no gun crime in Britain: They have gun control. /sarc


7 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:18 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: ClearCase_guy; maine yankee

You’re both wrong. They were arguing about whether port is right or left.


8 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:37 AM PDT by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: maine yankee

The title makes it sound like he died BECAUSE it was a nuke sub.

Are there any diesel subs anymore? I thought they all were nukes (At least the USN’s are).


9 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:41 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: maine yankee

Anyone find the contradictory humor in a shooting on board a nuclear submarine called Astute? Besides me of course....


10 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:44 AM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: maine yankee

“Hampshire Constabulary and the MoD are keen to stress this incident is not terrorist related.

He doth protests too much...


11 posted on 04/08/2011 7:53:58 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: r9etb

My prediction: the dead guys name was Mohammed. So of course it wasn’t terror-related.


12 posted on 04/08/2011 7:54:06 AM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: maine yankee

They seemed to go out of their way about three times to state that this is not a terrorist incident. Doth thou protest too much?


13 posted on 04/08/2011 7:54:45 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: RandallFlagg

Too bad they couldn’t have worked “SUV” in to the title some where.


14 posted on 04/08/2011 7:55:18 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (it's time to accept Jesus)
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To: ClearCase_guy
My prediction: homosexual.

Or hetero love triangle.

15 posted on 04/08/2011 7:55:33 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: davisfh

"Front? Bow. Back? Stern. Betta get it right, squirt. I trow yer ass out tha little round window on tha side!"
16 posted on 04/08/2011 7:55:47 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: Walkingfeather

Man, you beat me to it. Great minds think alike!!


17 posted on 04/08/2011 7:56:08 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: maine yankee

“Officers arrested a man after the shooting but said the incident was not terror-related and there was no risk to the public.”

So it’s a situation that involves lead poisoning rather than radiation poisoning?


18 posted on 04/08/2011 7:57:16 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: RandallFlagg
"Are there any diesel subs anymore? I thought they all were nukes (At least the USN’s are)."

Pretty sure thats all the Japanese have is diesel subs.
19 posted on 04/08/2011 7:57:34 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: maine yankee
An officer was killed and another is fighting for his life after a shooting spree by a sailor on board the Royal Navy's flagship nuclear submarine. Read more: Daily Mail
20 posted on 04/08/2011 7:58:28 AM PDT by wtd
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To: hoagy62

>> Could it have been a disgruntled local?

Probably would have been a stabbing in that case.


21 posted on 04/08/2011 7:58:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: maine yankee
Related link....

Man Killed In Shooting On UK Nuclear Sub

Perp's ID still not released.

22 posted on 04/08/2011 7:58:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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To: RandallFlagg

Agreed. They are trying to revive the anti-nuke movement that is trying to get back out of the wilderness. This Japan tragedy is just an opportunity to revive this dormant issue, just as the Tucson murders and shooting of a Congresswoman is the jump-start a revival the anti-gun movement.


23 posted on 04/08/2011 8:00:49 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ClearCase_guy
My prediction: homosexual.

A homosexual with too much repressed flamboyancy.
24 posted on 04/08/2011 8:00:54 AM PDT by ZX12R
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“The arrested man was a serving member of military personnel, thought to be an armed guard working on the Astute.”

That’s why you only give Barney Fife one bullet.

Seriously, I cringe every time I drive through the gate and see the gate guards / guardettes wearing body armor, kevlar helmets and an M-9 strapped to their hips.


25 posted on 04/08/2011 8:01:07 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: wtd

That article also mentions something about an armed guard being arrested? So does that mean the sailor was an MP?


26 posted on 04/08/2011 8:01:11 AM PDT by mewzilla (Were members of both political parties in on the Lockerbie bomber deal?)
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To: maine yankee

Remember in “The Hunt for Red October” that too many bad things can happen when a gun goes off in a nuke sub.


27 posted on 04/08/2011 8:01:20 AM PDT by AU72
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To: hoagy62

No, no, no...the locals in question would be civilians, and the UK has gun control laws, so it’s impossible for anyone to be shot by a civilian.

Drive on by, nothing to see here.


28 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:09 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: hoagy62

Both victims are officers.

The arrested man was a serving member of military personnel, thought to be an armed guard working on the Astute (probably enlisted).


29 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: RandallFlagg
“Are there any diesel subs anymore?”

Most navies (except the USN) have diesel subs for use in coastal waters. A diesel is inherently quieter than a nuke because you can turn off all of the machinery in a diesel sub (except for the electric motors) and run silently. On a nuke you need to keeps pumps running to cool the nuke plant, and coolant circulating creates a lot of noise (relative to that of an electric motor slowly turning a propeller).

30 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings (Ten years on FreeRepublic and counting.)
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To: wtd

Perhaps the shooter’s subconscious was to blame.


31 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:34 AM PDT by buridan
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To: Thane_Banquo

Dang, you beat me to it.


32 posted on 04/08/2011 8:02:50 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: RandallFlagg
The title makes it sound like he died BECAUSE it was a nuke sub.

The MSM does the same with car accidents - it'll be 'SUV Kills Three' but NEVER ' Prius Kills Three'. MSM bias is getting waaaaay too predictable.

33 posted on 04/08/2011 8:03:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php- citizenwarrior.com/2009/05/terrifying-brilliance-of-islam.html)
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To: Walkingfeather

Isn’t it interesting that they stress right up front that incidents like these are not terrorist related which comes right out of the FBI playbook?


34 posted on 04/08/2011 8:03:40 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Buried in the article:

HMS Astute was named and launched by the Duchess of Cornwall in June 2007

35 posted on 04/08/2011 8:04:46 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The Obama-nation began with the Inauguration of Desolation.)
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To: RandallFlagg
The British Upholder class boats are diesel electric. As another freeper pointed out, most navies with a significant sub force have diesel subs for coastal work. Quiet and cheap.
36 posted on 04/08/2011 8:05:02 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Erik Latranyi

Are the Brits allowing women on their subs already? Must be a bunch of sub racing going on these days!


37 posted on 04/08/2011 8:05:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: wtd

I always think the term “shooting spree” makes it sound like some sort of fun recreational thing. Odd choice of words (altho I know it’s the common term).


38 posted on 04/08/2011 8:05:49 AM PDT by brytlea (A tick stole my tagline....)
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To: smokingfrog

Notice the photo of this vessels crew (posted at TheDailyMail) a few crew members sport beards. Is facial hair permited in the Royal Navy?


39 posted on 04/08/2011 8:06:16 AM PDT by wtd
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That article also mentions something about an armed guard being arrested? So does that mean the sailor was an MP?

Probably, because most submariners have well adjusted personalities.

40 posted on 04/08/2011 8:06:27 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: wtd

Sudden jihad syndrome?


41 posted on 04/08/2011 8:08:05 AM PDT by OldNewYork (social justice isn't justice; it's just socialism)
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To: davisfh
You’re both wrong. They were arguing about whether port is right or left.

They're both wrong. Port is a fortified wine...

42 posted on 04/08/2011 8:11:43 AM PDT by bcsco
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To: OldNewYork

Don’t know yet. Still searching to identify the time of the incident. If the time corresponds to salat . . .and it coincides with the mayor touring the vessel . . .hmmmm?


43 posted on 04/08/2011 8:12:33 AM PDT by wtd
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To: Walkingfeather

Nail on the head!


44 posted on 04/08/2011 8:13:20 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: RandallFlagg

Diesel/electric subs are still used by a lot of navies worldwide. They’re actually quieter than a nucular (tm GWB) sub when running on battery power, although of course they don’t have the speed or endurance. They are actually a significant threat to surface fleets operating fairly close to shore, because they’re harder to detect and thus can slip into missile or torpedo range more easily. Plus they’re a lot cheaper than a nuke sub and easier to maintain and operate.

}:-)4


45 posted on 04/08/2011 8:17:37 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Oh! One of my favorite submarine movies, in the LONG version! DAS BOOT.

It makes getting outside a great experience even in winter!


46 posted on 04/08/2011 8:18:27 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: wtd
Police were alerted to the shooting by the Ministry of Defence at 12.12pm today. dash Salat for Dhuhr in Southampton UK was timed for after the shooting. It does not appear to be related. 8 Fri 4:25 6:27 1:08 4:49 7:50 9:43
47 posted on 04/08/2011 8:20:35 AM PDT by wtd
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To: RandallFlagg

Oops...the upholder boats were transferred to Canada. My bad.


48 posted on 04/08/2011 8:21:29 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: wtd

Has been for quite some time.


49 posted on 04/08/2011 8:25:40 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: blackdog
Anyone find the contradictory humor in a shooting on board a nuclear submarine called Astute? Besides me of course....

I don't see where the sub's name is all that contradictory or humorous in this case.

However, late last year when the Astute ran aground off the coast of Scotland...

50 posted on 04/08/2011 8:26:33 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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