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EPA riders axed, lawmakers say
Politico ^ | 4/8/11 | DARREN GOODE

Posted on 04/08/2011 3:27:48 PM PDT by Qbert

An evolving deal to avoid a government shutdown would include a study of the economic effect of environmental regulations rather than Republican riders to block EPA rules on climate change and mountaintop mining, senior Senate Democrats and a key House Republican say.

That would be a major victory for Democrats and environmental groups who have been fighting to keep policy riders on a host of regulations out of any deal.

“EPA riders as proposed by the House will not be included,” Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) told reporters. He said the deal could include a study instead.

“It’s one of the proposals. It isn’t all done until it’s all done,” he said.

Senate Environment and Public Works Chairwoman Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) told POLITICO she believes the deal would be to study the economic costs of environmental regulations.

“It sets up a study committee — across the board, government, everybody’s sitting at the table looking at the impact of these regulations, EPA and Commerce. But we’re looking at it now,” she said. “There are no riders involving EPA. That is my understanding, period, and when I say my understanding, it is because there is no deal final. But at this stage, there are no riders.”

The study could end up echoing legislation from Reps. Jim Matheson (D-Utah) and John Sullivan (R-Okla.) that would require an interagency committee to analyze the cumulative impacts of several EPA rules “in an effort to better understand how these policies are impacting America’s global economic competitiveness, electricity and fuel prices, employment and reliability of electricity supply,” according to an April 4 statement from House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton.

The analysis in the Matheson-Sullivan bill would include the cumulative impacts of EPA’s rules on consumers, small businesses, state, local and tribal governments, labor markets and agriculture.

Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-Ky.), chairman of the Energy and Power Subcommittee, told POLITICO he has also “heard there was a study for costs, but we’re still pushing our greenhouse gas bill.”

On EPA greenhouse gas riders, he said, "All I know is, it's not an issue anymore. I guess that means it's not being pushed or that it was changed in some way that was acceptable."

Greenhouse gas restrictions are “not in the budget,” he added. "I think it's just dollar amounts is my understanding."

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad said House Republicans on Thursday brought up the issue of EPA mountaintop mining rules but that since fell off the table. “They’ve apparently backed off of that,” said the North Dakota Democrat.

Boxer said there was “a lot of talks” initially about riders dealing with greenhouse gases “but I think the fact that we had our votes and they did so badly, they dropped it.”

A Republican plan to block EPA's ability to regulate greenhouse gas emissions Wednesday received support from 50 senators, less than the 60 to overcome a filibuster and the 67 to defeat a promised presidential veto. A similar plan easily passed the GOP-controlled House on Thursday.

There was then word, Boxer said, “they would do something on mountaintop mining removal, … then apparently they walked away from that because that would have been very unpopular. I think, and that would have actually repealed some sections of the Clean Water Act, so they backed off.”

Robin Bravender and Darren Samuelsohn contributed to this report.

This article first appeared on POLITICO Pro at 3:12 p.m. on April 8, 2011.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; capandtrade; epa; shutdown
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"That would be a major victory for Democrats and environmental groups who have been fighting to keep policy riders on a host of regulations out of any deal."

The Stupid Party's about to do it again...

1 posted on 04/08/2011 3:27:50 PM PDT by Qbert
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EPA riders axed, lawmakers say

What did the lawmakers axe them?.....and what was their answer?

2 posted on 04/08/2011 3:29:57 PM PDT by GreenHornet
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I see the Dems are talking up the riders.

That's because the Repubs are going to get the vast majority of the cuts they want. LOL.

3 posted on 04/08/2011 3:30:17 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Qbert

I understand the frustration, but the facts have been against the Pubbies from the start. That they are getting anything should be looked at as a gain, rather than insisting on the original proposal as the mark and everything after that a loss. You’ll just drive yourself crazy otherwise.

I mean, it really is a shame that the fascists at the EPA can continue to hector and micromanage businesses, but do you think that this will improve Democratic election chances in 2012? Will having seen this problem be escalated and knowing that Pubs wanted to release business from the stranglehold of fascists be something good for Dem chances? I can’t see that. Now, if the Pubs don’t keep bringing this up, then you really have a point because the gain of having made this something on the public radar, by not insisting at every turn on it, they will waste the gain.

So, it should also be a part of the Ryan package. It should be in the 2012/13 budget. Pubs should run on reining in fascist government in 2012. That’s what I want.


4 posted on 04/08/2011 3:33:08 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: BelegStrongbow

Setting up expectations for the next big fight, the 2012 budget. I think we conservatives should be quite happy with how this is playing out. We will not get everything, let’s wait and see what is in the final package.


5 posted on 04/08/2011 3:34:54 PM PDT by Free America52 (The White guys are getting pissed off. We beat Hitler Hirohito and Krushchev. Obama will be easy.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

You are dreaming all right.
The only thing “we” are getting is the shaft - without the defunding of the EPA & some movement on defunding PP, then we achieve nothing at all.


6 posted on 04/08/2011 3:35:05 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: FReepers

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves.

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7 posted on 04/08/2011 3:36:41 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Free America52

> We will not get everything, let’s wait and see what is in the final package.

Its quite clear - almost nothing at all.


8 posted on 04/08/2011 3:37:28 PM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: bill1952
we achieve nothing at all.

Nonsense. We get cuts in what was supposed to be a Dem budget.

Not only that...the bigger picture is that we get to move on to hearings over the 2012 budget...and those are going to reap much larger fruit.

9 posted on 04/08/2011 3:38:12 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Qbert
The restrictions on the EPA is a item that the Republicans can win on because almost everybody (working class stiffs) union and non-union understand. They should make this the center piece.
10 posted on 04/08/2011 3:39:33 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Free America52
let’s wait and see what is in the final package.

Oh, I totally agree. I'm just commenting on the status right now and trying comfort a feller Freeper who seems despondent about the prospects. Reality is that the political game goes on and everything that has come up in this debacle has worked to improve Republican status and degrade Democrats. The latter are now so firmly linked to abortion that it isn't even remarkable to note them as the Party of Death. They have embraced their destiny and I for one am overjoyed to hang it around their necks like the albatross. May they float on the seas of oblivion forever.

11 posted on 04/08/2011 3:39:56 PM PDT by BelegStrongbow (St. Joseph, patron of fathers, pray for us!)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Screw the so-called “cuts”. They amount to relatively nothing, and the dems know this.

The EPA is going to destroy our economy, and letting them get their way on this single issue is a major defeat for the Tea Party, republicans and productive Americans.

12 posted on 04/08/2011 3:43:11 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Qbert

If Planned Parenthood was the only thing holding it up then why the heck is Bonehead axing the EPA rider?


13 posted on 04/08/2011 3:44:38 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: Qbert
And when they come to an agreement, they'll be standing side by side with the dems, and all will be smiling as if they have achieved something significant.

It's disgusting, and all of these politicians should be tarred, feathered and run out of D.C., IMO.

14 posted on 04/08/2011 3:45:54 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: tobyhill

Most likely due to the fact that the EPA rider was already axed prior to the standoff over PP.


15 posted on 04/08/2011 3:47:13 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Siena Dreaming

“Not only that...the bigger picture is that we get to move on to hearings over the 2012 budget...and those are going to reap much larger fruit.”

Are they??

What happens when the unions march in the streets, and we get “Paul Ryan= Hitler” signs and death threats, “kids being forced to eat out of garbage cans”, “ etc., etc. over the 2012 budget?

Why should I trust anybody who can’t stand up in a minor fight like this one?


16 posted on 04/08/2011 3:47:13 PM PDT by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Qbert
Why should I trust anybody who can’t stand up in a minor fight like this one?

You are correct not to trust any of our so called "representatives".


17 posted on 04/08/2011 3:49:45 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

The GOP is giving up the farm.


18 posted on 04/08/2011 3:50:48 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: bill1952
The EPA, and the ESA, are what have this country on the ropes! Industry has it's back upon the ropes due to EIS, regulation, and taxation/fees becuase of the government fundsd commies. For America to get real traction in the right direction, we need to get back on track with natural resource development.

You nailed it my FRiend!
19 posted on 04/08/2011 3:51:36 PM PDT by Issaquahking
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To: WHBates; Pox

The Dems couldn’t even get this passed in the Senate because they knew it was so politically toxic (and Cap and Tax barely passed in the House). We have an opportunity to make tons of “moderate” Dems choke on this, and pay the price in 2012, and instead the GOP appears to be throwing this away... for nothing.

Beyond stupid.


20 posted on 04/08/2011 3:52:42 PM PDT by Qbert ("I seem to smell the stench of appeasement in the air" - Margaret Thatcher)
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