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Deal falls short of GOP cut pledge; 'As good as we could get,' says Boehner (We lost!)
The Hill ^ | Saturday April 9, 2011 | Bob Cusack

Posted on 04/08/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

The bipartisan deal struck Friday falls short of the House Republican campaign pledge to cut $100 billion in fiscal 2011 spending.

The pact cuts $78.5 billion when compared to President Obama's fiscal 2011 budget request, which was never enacted.

The accord cuts $39 billion in actual spending, $22 billion less than bill the House passed in February.

In a brief interview, Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the Republican Study Committee, said he expects "significant" opposition from conservatives, both to the short-term fix and the long-term spending bill. He said he will vote against both

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: boehner; byeboehner; kenyanarsehole; kenyanvillagefraud; obama; palin; shutdown; soetorohasaids; sorossidiot
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The Ball-less ones strike again! We are doom with these jokers!
1 posted on 04/08/2011 10:15:13 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

They’re only really tough when fighting for the top 3% of this nation. The rest of the time they’re ready to throw you overboard.


2 posted on 04/08/2011 10:18:11 PM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: Bigtigermike

Social conservatives take it laying down again.


3 posted on 04/08/2011 10:19:23 PM PDT by Tempest (I put money ahead of people)
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To: Bigtigermike

You may of lost...I’m happy and I believe most TEA Partiers will be pleased. The fight goes on...


4 posted on 04/08/2011 10:20:10 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: Bigtigermike
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) told The Hill the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

This Rino Speaker of the House is not the best speaker Republicans can get?

5 posted on 04/08/2011 10:20:22 PM PDT by rawhide
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To: Bigtigermike
There is an ENORMOUS SPLIT in the GOP Caucus and Boner will need 100 democrat votes to pass this bill in the House.

Within 6 months, he's GONE.

6 posted on 04/08/2011 10:22:49 PM PDT by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: rawhide

These weenies coulcn’t play poker and keep their shirts. We need to lose this Boner guy. There’s gotta be better!


7 posted on 04/08/2011 10:23:55 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Bigtigermike
Why in the world would you think the House would get 100% of what they wanted? Purist thinking will never work.

$80 B out of $ 100 cuts on what was a DEM budget is pretty darn good IMO.

8 posted on 04/08/2011 10:24:42 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: rawhide
This Rino Speaker of the House is not the best speaker Republicans can get?

I guess I'll just keep buying more gold and silver. They will continue to increase in price as long as the a**holes in D.C. continue to cave to the spenders.

9 posted on 04/08/2011 10:24:42 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: Bigtigermike
Oh, I don't think so, not totally anyway - considering this wasn't even supposed to be a budget the GOP had any say in whatsoever. Even keeping spending levels frozen would have been a significant improvement over what would have likely been significant spending increases otherwise...and this in this case, we even got a deduction, although minimal.

The political capital is best to be saved for their own budget coming up. That is the real test of wills, and the longer the argument raged on with this budget, the less likely there will be any success with the next budget. Unless you like winning for losing, of course.

10 posted on 04/08/2011 10:24:54 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Bigtigermike

It was a pretty good deal considering libs control both the Senate and presidency. Let’s take back control of those institutions in 2012. THEN we can pursue much smaller government.


11 posted on 04/08/2011 10:25:30 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Both parties suck as usual.Same old nonsense for the last 100 years.The federal no reserve owns America that creates $$$ from nothing so why do we pay when they have no $$$ to begin with to lend?Outlaw them!
12 posted on 04/08/2011 10:25:42 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Bigtigermike

“we lost”

No, we didn’t. The Republicans may have but they are not us.

When are Conservatives going to learn? We are not Republicans, and Republicans are not us.

Republicans do not represent us. They do not speak for us. They do not think like us. They do not have the same values as us. They do not even like us.

They.... Are.... Not.... Us!


13 posted on 04/08/2011 10:26:44 PM PDT by Nik Naym (It's not my fault... I have compulsive smartass disorder.)
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To: Slump Tester

If you expect your argument to be taken seriously, let up on the sophomoric comments about calling someone who’s last name does not even come close to being pronounced that way into a pervert sexual reference. This is not middle school - and comments like that don’t indicate your mindset is ready for serious discussion about public policy. Let’s grow up. Our side is supposed to be where the adults are... Okay? < stepping down off of soap box >


14 posted on 04/08/2011 10:28:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Nik Naym

The Republicans won. The conservatives lost.


15 posted on 04/08/2011 10:29:18 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Bigtigermike

What nonsense.

Boehner and the House Republicans scored a big victory tonight. Did we get everything we wanted? Of course not. Is there any chance in hell we were going to get everything we wanted? Of course not.

We control the House. That’s it. The Democrats control the Senate and the White House. We are NOT going to get everything we campaigned on because we don’t control the necessary machinery of government to get our wish list completed.

All this nonsense about Boehner being forced out or that we somehow lost is absolute hogwash.

We have now changed the terms of the debate. The country is no longer talking about whether to cut, now we talk only about how much. President Obama was forced to go on TV tonight and essentially embrace spending cuts - just months ago he was busy pushing spending increases.

This was a major Republican win tonight. Period.


16 posted on 04/08/2011 10:30:10 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Bigtigermike

Looks like there is plenty of Reps not too happy about these deals,God’s will will be done but individuals will be individuals.Rep Boehner is not a bad man,just one who doesn’t realize how to drive a good bargain.


17 posted on 04/08/2011 10:30:41 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Bigtigermike

I think the fact that they are forcing a vote in the Senate to repeal the healthcare bill and got the agreement not to fund more IRS hires are big deals.


18 posted on 04/08/2011 10:31:50 PM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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To: Bigtigermike

I wanted them to shut it down but I have recently been watching my state news and a little bit of national news and I believe they did the right thing because the media has everyone convinced that the mean old Pubbies are ready to starve America out.

I think they should come out saying that they had to protect our military because O wanted to punish them, even though they are risking their lives all over the world.


19 posted on 04/08/2011 10:32:39 PM PDT by tiki
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To: rawhide
>>>This Rino Speaker of the House is not the best speaker Republicans can get?<<<

Get him out and vote a man in the seat.

20 posted on 04/08/2011 10:34:02 PM PDT by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Bigtigermike

They could NOT break with our Military. They just couldn’t. Not with this pos in the WH. If this is a good as they could get...for now...then that is more than I expected, actually. You have to give them credit, I know you don’t want to, but the morale of guys serving is soon coming under heavy, heavy, and heavier pressure. We can’t desert them now. They have too much to deal with as it is.


21 posted on 04/08/2011 10:34:50 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Note: I do NOT capitalize anything I don't respect...like obama and/or islam...but I repeat myself.)
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To: Bigtigermike
You do realize Boehner got two huge riders in this deal that totally cut the Democrats off at the knees?

1) The Senate now HAS to vote on the Healthcare Bill being cut

The Senate now HAS to VOTE on cutting funding for Planned Parenthood.

22 posted on 04/08/2011 10:37:06 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Longbow1969

“All this nonsense about Boehner being forced out or that we somehow lost is absolute hogwash.

We have now changed the terms of the debate. The country is no longer talking about whether to cut, now we talk only about how much. President Obama was forced to go on TV tonight and essentially embrace spending cuts - just months ago he was busy pushing spending increases.”

This is true.
We have President Obama now taking ‘credit’ for a budget that is the ‘largest cut in spending in history’ ... Obama drinking the Tea!!!

This is like Clinton in 1995 ‘the era of big government is over’ ... next 6 years the govt - under GOP budgets grew smaller than at any time in the previous 30 years (or the next 10 :-( ) ... so this day IS historic ...

This is not the end, but the beginning of the end of Big Government Obam-unism.

Elections matter. And this agreement has shifted the debate significantly.


23 posted on 04/08/2011 10:39:22 PM PDT by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: bamagirl1944

also a vote to defund Planned Parenthood is in this bill.


24 posted on 04/08/2011 10:39:34 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Bigtigermike

We control one half of one half of the policy-making branches of government and have a certified America-hating Marxist usurper in the White House who is actively trying to bankrupt the country, and yet we still managed to get the largest budget cut in history, and that’s only for a half-year budget. Annualized the cuts are almost $80 billion. Given the circumstances, this is better than we could have hoped for, and a lot better than Gingrich ever got from Bubba. If Nancy were still speaker, we would be talking about the biggest INCREASE in history right now.

The real fight is in a month on the debt ceiling, and then in 6 months on the FY2012 budget, and then in 9 months against the leftist RINO Obamaniks for the GOP nomination. We should have always known we’d never get what we really want until we have a bone fide conservative at 1600 Penn. The fight has just begun. This is round one and we won it.


25 posted on 04/08/2011 10:40:33 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: Bigtigermike

We control one half of one half of the policy-making branches of government and have a certified America-hating Marxist usurper in the White House who is actively trying to bankrupt the country, and yet we still managed to get the largest budget cut in history, and that’s only for a half-year budget. Annualized the cuts are almost $80 billion. Given the circumstances, this is better than we could have hoped for, and a lot better than Gingrich ever got from Bubba. If Nancy were still speaker, we would be talking about the biggest INCREASE in history right now.

The real fight is in a month on the debt ceiling, and then in 6 months on the FY2012 budget, and then in 9 months against the leftist RINO Obamaniks for the GOP nomination. We should have always known we’d never get what we really want until we have a bone fide conservative at 1600 Penn. The fight has just begun. This is round one and we won it.


26 posted on 04/08/2011 10:40:49 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo (Mitt Romney: He's from Harvard, and he's here to help.)
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To: MestaMachine

So what did we get??? One good place to start cutting, would be to cut the Military Budget for the Blue Angles, Thunder Birds, they are past their useful life.


27 posted on 04/08/2011 10:41:11 PM PDT by BooBoo1000
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To: Bigtigermike
the agreement was "as good a deal as we could get."

says the loser of the negotiations

28 posted on 04/08/2011 10:42:44 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Bigtigermike

Maybe there’s a strategy here, but Boner caves too much to believe that for sure. He’s really telegraphed about not wanting a shutdown and I think that weakened his position from the get go.


29 posted on 04/08/2011 10:43:07 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Bigtigermike

When’s the last time we had a budget or CR with ACTUAL cuts in spending, not cuts vs projected increases?!

It’s not perfect. Far from it. But it’s a HUGE win.

And it mandates a Senate vote on flat-out repealing Obamacare! BIG win!

Reid looked and sounded like he wanted to cry when giving his press release. That says a lot by itself!

Cmon, Freepers and Tea Partiers. This is a HUGE sign of weakness by the demscum. Don’t cry. Don’t celebrate, either, but this was a win. Just a 30 day battle win, but a win!

Now let’s focus on winning the war!


30 posted on 04/08/2011 10:43:55 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: Bigtigermike
"as good a deal as we could get."

$4 *TRILLION* dollar budget that will put OUR CHILDREN $1.5 *TRILLION* dollars deeper in debt and this is the best they could do huh?

Let's see. Someone check my math. $40 billion is what? 1/100th of the actual budget?

I have to agree with another poster in another thread today. The only way we're going to fix all this is to let it all collapse then try and put it back together as best we can after the fact.

The Pol's certainly aren't going to do anything about it. They're far too well entrenched and a significant amount of this cash is going into their pockets. What do they care? Their kids aren't going to have to pay it back. They'll be rich on all the money the current pol's have stuffed into their pockets.

Doubt that the tea party will help at all.

I didn't choose my tagline outta the blue.

31 posted on 04/08/2011 10:44:14 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: Bigtigermike
The post-deal talking points from the Boehnerites in the house seem to be, "We got a pretty good deal, this is just a minor skirmish anyway, I know some of you tea party folks aren't happy, but hold your fire until the debt ceiling increase comes up next month. We're going to stick the screws to Obama and get REALLY tough!"

How come I have the feeling when this debt ceiling increase comes up next month and we go through this government shutdown deja-vu, the post cave-in talking points will be, "We managed to get a few concessions, not as much as we would have liked, But this debt ceiling increase was too important to risk the countries credit over. I know some of you tea party folks are getting a bit angry. But you just wait for the 2012 budget. We're going to stick it to Obama then and get REALLY, REALLY tough! I promise. Scouts honor.

32 posted on 04/08/2011 10:46:02 PM PDT by apillar
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They are on the same team not ball-less. The American people have yet to figure out we are being played?

Damn are we in trouble..


33 posted on 04/08/2011 10:46:08 PM PDT by USSR Didnt Fall
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To: Siena Dreaming

The Dems didn’t have a budget, they punted to the Republicans. This IS a Republican budget, the biggest spending budget ever passed by any Congress.


34 posted on 04/08/2011 10:47:27 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
The Senate now HAS to VOTE on cutting funding for Planned Parenthood.

lol. NEVER HAPPEN!!

If it even get's close to that they'll bring out the lefty goons just like in Wisc.

the Pro-Choice vote is one of the main pillars holding up the Democrat Party. Try and kill that or Unions and the like and they'll take to the streets and the spineless Reps will belly up. Guarantee it.

35 posted on 04/08/2011 10:48:38 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spineless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: piytar

Sorry, defunding obamacare, not repealing. Functionally equivalent, though. Esp given the number of donk Senators up in ‘12. And don’t think they’re unconcerned about what happened in Wisconsin. The full force of the national leftscum machine backed the donk, and she still lost!


36 posted on 04/08/2011 10:49:16 PM PDT by piytar (Godwin's rule is null and void. If you don't know what I mean, you aren't paying attention...)
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To: Republican Wildcat
The only thing that pees me off is boy wonder and his footmen are gonna try and pretend it was their deal.
37 posted on 04/08/2011 10:49:24 PM PDT by hope
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To: Republican Wildcat

I guess I look at it this way. If the Republicans hadn’t taken over the House in November, we wouldn’t have had any say in the budget at all. The Dems would’ve kept spending and NO cuts would’ve been made.


38 posted on 04/08/2011 10:54:20 PM PDT by Catsrus
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To: apillar

Lot of Bonerites on this thread too.


39 posted on 04/08/2011 10:54:33 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: CitizenUSA
It was a pretty good deal considering libs control both the Senate and presidency. Let’s take back control of those institutions in 2012. THEN we can pursue much smaller government.

We will never return to a smaller government so long as forcing Congress to reduce their powers within the confines for the enumerated powers in Article 1 Section of the Constitution is delayed until some unspecified point in the future. That mentality becomes an open ended proposition that is never closed. We don't have to to wait. Forcing Congress to comply with Article 1 Section 8 has to start now!
40 posted on 04/08/2011 10:56:53 PM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: Thane_Banquo

We control one half of one half of the policy-making branches of government and have a certified America-hating Marxist usurper in the White House who is actively trying to bankrupt the country, and yet we still managed to get the largest budget cut in history, and that’s only for a half-year budget. Annualized the cuts are almost $80 billion. Given the circumstances, this is better than we could have hoped for, and a lot better than Gingrich ever got from Bubba. If Nancy were still speaker, we would be talking about the biggest INCREASE in history right now._____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________HUH? No one controls anything in Washington but the good ole boys at the fed and they tell people what to do in government and how much they want from the us and the debt is passed on to the sheep to pay.The founders warned us people.


41 posted on 04/08/2011 10:58:15 PM PDT by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Bigtigermike

An analogy of what happened tonight:

You currently owe $144,000 to the bank.

You make $18,000 a year. You usually spend $36,000 a year. This year though, you’re only going to spend $35,600.

So, instead of your debt going up $18,000 this year, it will only go up $17,400.

So now you’ll only owe $161,400 to the bank at the end of the year, rather then $162,000, all because you cut a deal and reduced spending :) Great job RINOS!!!!!!!!!!!!


42 posted on 04/08/2011 10:59:47 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica

Last I saw we won in WI......... We don’t have the senate or the WH, this was a huge win given we are only one spoke in the wheel. They will have to vote on what they agree to vote on, remember we have another battle coming up very fast... the debt ceiling. Ya’ll have to look at this as moving the line forward, sometimes it will be inches, sometimes more...


43 posted on 04/08/2011 11:01:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: teg_76

Don’t try to explain basic math to Boner supporters.


44 posted on 04/08/2011 11:01:42 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Drango
The fight goes on.

Yeah, I heard that 10 years ago...And everything continues to decline. Go team!

45 posted on 04/08/2011 11:01:47 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

You act like this is 2003 and we controlled every part of government. This is just the first step in a long battle.


46 posted on 04/08/2011 11:04:10 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CitizenUSA

“Let’s take back control of those institutions in 2012. THEN we can pursue much smaller government.”

Didn’t the Republicans have control from 2001 to 2007? Government then grew at a rate that had not been seen since LBJ introduced the Great Society. Unless the Tea Party can both get the RINOs out and field electable candidates who genuinely favor limited government instead, it’s hopeless.


47 posted on 04/08/2011 11:05:08 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Bigtigermike
GOP is nothing more than a cardboard opposition poster organization pure and simple! Their number one goal is to blunt real reform and conservative values by posing, but not producing.
Call me a liar when the GOP makes a real stand!
48 posted on 04/08/2011 11:06:51 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Arizona Carolyn
In 2003 Boehner was raising the debt by a factor not seen since LBJ.

Why is that assclown Speaker?
49 posted on 04/08/2011 11:07:14 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Drango
Just shows more work to do in 2012. More RINOS and DEMOS to defeat. Rinse, repeat. Could take three good elections to fix the senate, due to the staggered election for that nest of toxic waste.

An analysis of all the votes on the ongoing budget process votes should be a perfect “census” of targets for the 2012 election.

50 posted on 04/08/2011 11:07:33 PM PDT by tdscpa
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