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What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?
Lubbock Avalanche-Journal ^ | Apr 9. 2011

Posted on 04/09/2011 6:52:12 AM PDT by KeyLargo

What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?

Created 2011-04-09 00:49

Summary:

A compromise was reached on the 2011 Budget on Friday night. What did the Republicans gain and what did they lose in compromising with the Democrats?

Compromise in itself is a very major problem with Republicans. The Republicans have been compromising with the Left for decades, transforming the United States into a nation that has become progressively more Liberal and has accumulated a national debt greater than $14 trillion.

Compromise in itself is a very major problem with Republicans. The Republicans have been compromising with the Left for decades, transforming the United States into a nation that has become progressively more Liberal and has accumulated a national debt greater than $14 trillion.

Speaker of the House John Boehner settled for less than $40 billion in spending cuts from President Obama’s 2011 budget. This is a lot of money, but less than the $61 billion in cuts that the voters had expected and demanded. The $1.65 trillion Obama is adding to our national debt this year is enormous and only slightly dented by the spending cuts. The current Republicans tell us the budget will not be balanced for quite some time.

Most of the Republican members of the House and the Senate who were first elected in 2010 were elected with the understanding that the Federal Budget would be cut significantly, ObamaCare would be fully defunded, and no more money would go to Planned Parenthood and NPR. Many Conservative voters will think that too much was given up by Speaker Boehner in reaching a compromise. Boehner’s great challenge will be to hold onto these voters and to regain their confidence for the 2012 elections.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: budget; caved; ntsa; republicans; stfu; taxes
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REPUBLICANS CAVED


1 posted on 04/09/2011 6:52:15 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

“They promised the MSM would be nice.”

2 posted on 04/09/2011 6:53:41 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people''s money." M Thatcher)
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To: KeyLargo

Larger crowds at our National Parks and the Air and Space museum today. I think that just about does it.


3 posted on 04/09/2011 6:55:10 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (How's that Keynesian economics working out for ya so far?)
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To: KeyLargo

Posting rules do not allow for a rational response at this time except to say at least my investments into silver are paying off nicely. That is what happens when you kill your own money.


4 posted on 04/09/2011 6:56:49 AM PDT by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: KeyLargo

the democrats gave up nothing!
DEM increased spending by $10, gop proposed $3 cut, Dem say, how about $1. GOP agreed to compromise on $2


5 posted on 04/09/2011 6:57:29 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: KeyLargo

With this deal the GOP got the “honor” of adding a trillion to the debt over seven months.


6 posted on 04/09/2011 6:57:43 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Diogenesis

A customer called him the “Weeper of the House” yesterday!


7 posted on 04/09/2011 6:58:02 AM PDT by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: KeyLargo

I don’t think it was to bad , we only have the house. time will tell.


8 posted on 04/09/2011 6:58:56 AM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: KeyLargo
Not even close. Boehner did not address the root cause of out of control federal spending. The root cause is due to Congress expanding their powers far beyond the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Violating Article 1 Section 8 has created not only an Unconstitutional government but one so large it has become cost prohibitive.

The only way to reduce federal spending is by eliminating all federal agencies not in compliance with any of the enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8. Doing so will dramatically reduce the size of government along with the associated costs. Any budget proposal that does not address this issue is nothing more than smoke and mirrors!
9 posted on 04/09/2011 7:01:13 AM PDT by Defend Liberty
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To: KeyLargo
"Defunding ObamaCare, Planned Parenthood, and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting were taken off the table for this budget agreement. The Democrats in Congress have given the Republicans the assurance these issues will be addressed in the future. It is not clear when this will happen."

Ha! Never. Thanks, Boohoo Boehner the crying caver.

10 posted on 04/09/2011 7:01:46 AM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: KeyLargo
What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?

They will get my ire, outrage and fury. Boehner gained a spot in history as a subversive. The Rino's gained an assigned parking spot from which they can watch the end of the Republic. America's new name is Ichabod, thanks to castrated republicans.

Hey Pubs either get some sack, or you will get sacked!

11 posted on 04/09/2011 7:03:50 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: KeyLargo
What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?

They will get my ire, outrage and fury. Boehner gained a spot in history as a subversive. The Rino's gained an assigned parking spot from which they can watch the end of the Republic. America's new name is Ichabod, thanks to castrated republicans.

Hey Pubs either get some sack, or you will get sacked!

12 posted on 04/09/2011 7:03:56 AM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: KeyLargo

AND THE NATION GOT SHAFTED.


13 posted on 04/09/2011 7:09:43 AM PDT by mulligan
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To: Big Horn
we only have the house

Agreed. If we really thought the elections would be threatened by a close, we had to chose our battles.

Much as I'd love to stand our ground and fight the good fight. The reality is that the swing-vote electorate is easily swayed by emotion and generally under informed.

14 posted on 04/09/2011 7:11:33 AM PDT by LoveUSA (You don't notice the night light until it gets dark.)
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To: KeyLargo

It seems like it will take us and other voters to stop the communist democrats..Get ready folks and vote every filthy democrat out of office..Don’t stop being angry get them in 2012 and show ever last one of them they are not going to be in charge any more..


15 posted on 04/09/2011 7:11:35 AM PDT by PLD
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To: Diogenesis

Bonerhead will get a little pat from the MSM for his Cave In. RINOS will praise him and Obama.


16 posted on 04/09/2011 7:11:37 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: Big Horn

Kind of funny (sarc) that we are quibbling about a couple of billion when the debt is in the trillions!

We keep putting this off. We will be forced to deal with it and it will be nasty and maybe even violent.

It won’t be pleasant when you have to tell millions of voters that they have been lied to.

What are the Dems plans? Taxes? Continuing to bankrupt the country? Eventually, like any bank, our creditors will tell us “no more.” What happens then? — tons of debt and no means to pay for it.


17 posted on 04/09/2011 7:12:12 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Gipper08

If Boner was a ship captain he would be going in circles trying to head 370 degrees.


18 posted on 04/09/2011 7:16:45 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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To: KeyLargo

Republicans never fail to fail. The Pledge and the unborn slaughtered by government funded abortion were as inconsequential as the pittance in budget cuts. And news reports indicate those guys were pretty proud of themselves.

Pathetic and sad.


19 posted on 04/09/2011 7:17:00 AM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: KeyLargo

“In any compromise between Good and Evil, it is only Evil that can profit.” - Ayn Rand


21 posted on 04/09/2011 7:19:14 AM PDT by detective
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To: screaminsunshine

I am going to use that sometime...


22 posted on 04/09/2011 7:22:38 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: screaminsunshine

“If Boner was a ship captain he would be going in circles trying to head 370 degrees.”

If Boner was a ship captain the crew would plotting mutiny.


23 posted on 04/09/2011 7:23:52 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: LoveUSA

That swing vote is swayed by weakness too. If we have people unwilling to fight for what is right they may as well vote for the Party that will. The Dems won everything this time. Cry Bahner has to go.

Pray for America


24 posted on 04/09/2011 7:24:13 AM PDT by bray (The Recovery begins when Obama is unemployed!)
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To: KeyLargo

The good news: They kept an additional $260.00 of debt from being added to every man, woman and child in the USA this year.

The Bad news: They added an additional $4545.00 of debt to every man, woman and child in the USA this year.

Numbers are approximate, of course.

In short, they caved.


25 posted on 04/09/2011 7:24:52 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: Defend Liberty

great post. what pisses me off the most is Republicans don’t have the cojones to fight back and mention what you posted. It seems even the new Republican freshmen Senators and Congress critters, are cowards like the ones befiore them. They do NOT represent conservative Americans.


26 posted on 04/09/2011 7:27:50 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Defend Liberty

While it would dramatically reduce the scope of government, it wont save nearly as much as imagined. If we cut every Federal agency (including State, Treasury, Defense), Congress and the President, we would save about 2/3 of just the Defense Budget. Cutting the unnecessary agencies, from our prospective, would cut around 250 billion, which is great, but only 8% of the budget. Plus, without having the Senate or President, there is no way we can gut those agencies. There arent even enough limited govt libertarian types in Republican office in the House yet. The last time we had both houses and the President, we even created a new department.

I would love to see Homeland, Education, Energy, Transportation, HUD, HHS, Labor, Agriculture, and the Interior either completely be done away with or their roles be taken on by the States, where they belong. Then move Commerce into the Treasury and VA into Defense. But that is just not a political possibility right now. If we judge everything the House does on a distant end goal, then we will all get frustrated and let the Dems take over, because (at least we know they are going to do it.” The socialists didnt get America to where it is now all at once. They used incrementalism over more than 100 years. Some of the starters died before the results were known. That is the way back. Each Congress, take a little more from the Government.

As for reducing federal spending, the only meaningful reductions will come from the following places: SSI, Medicare/Medicaid, Defense, Interest. Those four budgets make up 70% of the entire Federal Spending. If we dont attack one of those, we wont cut much. The problem is, those are considered sacred cows and no one will touch them for cuts, because of the emotional response to it.


27 posted on 04/09/2011 7:27:51 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: LoveUSA

But we have to be outraged at not getting everything at once!!!


28 posted on 04/09/2011 7:29:43 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: KeyLargo

If you think this was a shame, lets go back to the beginning; the election of the first black (& irish) president of the US. How many folks out there that are complaining that this deal wasn’t good enough, actually helped put this man in office... folks that weren’t strong enough to resist the temptation to say that they voted for the first black president (wonder how may of those commemorative plates they’ve got left).

My point here is that, many who call themselves moderate, who actually vote more conservatively, and many independents helped ensconce this man as president, more so because he was black than any other reason. They didn’t care to examine his background or affiliations... their vote was to show the world that we’re not a racist nation, be damned. Now we have Obamacare and a debt which makes slaves of us all. You want to get our house in order, then you gotta drive the wooden stake deep into the heart of the vampirous leftist nation... when the vampire looks up at you with the stake in one and and a mallet in the other, what’s he going to see, resolve? or a tremble and a whimper.


29 posted on 04/09/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: KeyLargo
We have a Democrat operative as Speaker from what I can see, this POS saboteur needs to go NOW,Before he can cause more damage.
30 posted on 04/09/2011 7:31:08 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: KeyLargo
This is a lot of money, but less than the $61 billion in cuts that the voters had expected and demanded.

This is a crock of HORSESHIT.

I expected cuts worthy in the face of a $3.6 Trillion Dollar Budget faced with a couple of trillion in deficits, alone!

I expected them to obliterate the hidden yearly $105 billion dollar implementation costs for Obama-Deathcare.!

I expected them to defund Cowboy Poets, Planned Parenthood, CPB, NOW, ACORN, and multiple other liberal wet dream entitlements.

They didn't hold the line; they clenched their teeth on Obama's shorts and sniffed his ass like a San Francisco liberal. I am disgusted with the Republicans. And, MY congressman is no more! I will give money to whoever opposes him.

31 posted on 04/09/2011 7:31:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Jack Hammer

32 posted on 04/09/2011 7:32:43 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: edge10

“Numbers are approximate, of course.”

Give or take a few digits. Good post.


33 posted on 04/09/2011 7:33:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Defend Liberty
” The root cause is due to Congress expanding their powers far beyond the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution.”

It's been a long time since I was in school but I seem to remember a famous case from the early years of our nation where it was decided that the federal government did not have the power to give tax dollars to victims of a disaster.

34 posted on 04/09/2011 7:35:11 AM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: Diogenesis
What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?

I don't CARE what the GOP got. I care what we AMERICANS got out of it.

35 posted on 04/09/2011 7:38:45 AM PDT by DesertSapper (God, Family, Country . . . . . . . . . . and dead terrorists!!!)
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To: KeyLargo

For two years, the dems have been p*ssing on our heads and telling us that it is raining. We voted the Repubs in to slap the Dems pens.

Instead, the repubs are finding it easier to convince it really is raining and are joining in, telling us that it is a thunderstorm.

Beaner needs to step aside. We need a leader who will do a better job.


36 posted on 04/09/2011 7:38:46 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (Akbar Zib (Burning the Quran will incite anger? You mean they are using joybuzzers against us now?))
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To: KeyLargo
Democrats laughing all the way to the bank

Repubbies got a "cut" of a measly, wimpish, 8/10 of one percent of the $3.8 trillion which is the amount the Obama administration says it was/is expected to spend this fiscal year. Maybe, sort of.....

But this is all smoke and mirrors because democrats intentionally did not pass a budget for 2011. That way there was no hard and fast defined spending forecast or budget amount alloted for the fiscal year. Any "cuts" are from an imaginary upper limit, so they really arent "cuts" at all.

And some of the real cuts that would have mattered were dropped by the Republiocans - items such as tho ongoing finance of Planned Parenthood and NPR are still in place.


37 posted on 04/09/2011 7:42:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: KeyLargo

Harry Reid was all in a lather yesterday about the potential cancellation of the Cherry Blossom Parade in DC and how it would disappoint visitors to the nations capital. This is the same guy who who despises “smelly” tourists and is on record saying so. What a collasal hypocrite.


38 posted on 04/09/2011 7:44:45 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Diogenesis

Oh for crying out loud; did obama threaten to take away his tissue subsidy?

Dems have little to fear from the republicans and both parties apparently have little fear of We, the People.

Absolute power and all of that, doncha know.

39 posted on 04/09/2011 7:46:33 AM PDT by GBA (Those who die with the most liberty...Win! Ever Vigilance: For the children.)
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To: Starboard

Reid declared the deal "historic."

40 posted on 04/09/2011 7:48:06 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Gipper08

GOP loses either way.

Big cuts: Republicans blamed for everyones woes. Dems win.

No cuts: Republicans blamed by every Republican. Dems win.

Mediocre cuts: Republicans blamed for not enough cuts and everyones woes. Dems win.

Because Dems would not set a budget when they should have. How clever.


41 posted on 04/09/2011 7:51:17 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: LoveUSA

Oh, for the good old days when we had the House, the Senate, and the Presidency and we were cutting spending left and right. We were unstoppable in those heady days... /s

NO MORE RINOS!


42 posted on 04/09/2011 7:52:08 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: KeyLargo
What Did the Republicans Get With the Budget Agreement?


43 posted on 04/09/2011 7:53:21 AM PDT by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: Diogenesis

A comment on Boehner’s Facebook:

From Kimberly Searcy

“As a supporter of President Obama and a true American I have nothing but the highest respect for you for your wise decision. Thank you for your courage.”


44 posted on 04/09/2011 7:56:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: TribalPrincess2U

conservatives are GLAD they did not pass a budget. This gave us a chance to cut.


45 posted on 04/09/2011 7:59:02 AM PDT by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: KeyLargo

KABUKI THEATRE

46 posted on 04/09/2011 7:59:20 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Gipper08

Obama takes credit for ‘biggest annual spending cut in history’...

Drudge


47 posted on 04/09/2011 8:06:08 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They don't need to do another 911. They have BHO and the Fleebaggers.)
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To: PLD
"Get ready folks and vote every filthy democrat out of office..."

It's not the democRATs who are the only problem. It's RINO pussies too numerous to name who cave and kiss ass. (Even when we hold a majority)

THEY gotta go! Losers, the GOP are led by spineless losers!

48 posted on 04/09/2011 8:16:55 AM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: KeyLargo
Compromise in itself is a very major problem with Republicans.

So is a losing the Senate races in Delaware, Nevada, and, effectively, in Alaska. My point is that so long as we conservatives focuse blame on elected representatives for doing what they perceive to be the in their own electoral interest and thereby excusing ourselves of fault for failure to support them, we will find ourselves in this trap that we were in last night. The problem is not in the stars, Horatio, but in ourselves.

Liberals have been winning the war from the ground up since I was indignant about the firing of McArthur. They have taken over the churches, schools, universities, the newspapers, public radio, television, virtually all of our eleemosynary institutions, federal and state bureaucracies, unions, and generally everything politically correct.

We then send the few elected representatives we can cobble together from ever shrinking electoral and demographic landscape to Washington and expect them to do at the top of the pyramid what we ourselves are unwilling to do at the base. When they falter in the face of overwhelming odds from every quarter, we blame everybody, especially these politicians, but ourselves.

Now this is generally the point in the argument in which it is asserted that if only the conservatives would be conservative they would win all the elections. We have seen in the above noted Senate races that that ain't necessarily so. There are many secular forces arrayed against us and to be a pure conservative is almost to stand naked before one's enemies. But I do not carry the motto, "attack, repeat, attack" at the foot of my posts because I believe in passivity in the face of evil. I believe we are in a mortal conflict not just for the soul of the nation but for its very existence. This is a fight not just worth winning but it is a fight literally for survival. It must be won!

All this is by way of predicate to articulate a unique point of view on this thread: we did well to avoid shutting down the government this time because we were not ready, we had no plan, we had not brought the country along with us. It was the wrong battle fought for the wrong reasons at the wrong time. If we had won our victory would not have worked any significant good effect on a budget out of control with 2010 deficit at $1.65 trillion it was a feel-good gesture. The victory likely would have been pyrrhic.

Make no mistake, I want this damn government shutdown, I want the EPA financially starved and shutdown, I want Planned Parenthood bankrupted, put out of business, and it's bloody abattoirs shuttered and shunned as if they were as radioactive as Fukushima. I want to win. I do not want to stake all feel-good or face-saving gestures.

Above all, I do not want to give Barak Hussein Obama the opportunity to turn the tables on reality and accuse Republicans of torpedoing his plan of economic recovery just when it was starting to work. I do not want him to drag the Republicans down to his level. I want the electorate to see this reality: the economy is Barak Obama's economy; let the voters judge him on his economy. If we shut down the government, the media and Barak Obama will convince many of the unwashed that everything was coming together when the Republicans, who put us in this fix in the first place under George Bush, got power again and resorted to their old tricks.

It is the job of a politician who would be a statesman to lead the people in the style of Ronald Reagan. Alas, we do not have our side of this issue effectively articulated by our conservative leaders. We have our talk radio hosts who are our spokesman by default. We have Bachmann, Palin and Senate DeMent but the first two have been marginalized and, anyway, they are not enough. Marco Rubio is excellent but not in the presidential race and those in the presidential race have not caught the imagination of the people. Now comes Paul Ryan who might be a shining star who might, just might, become the statesman conservatives desperately need. A shutdown last night would have continued to pull the spotlight away from Paul Ryan and his plan.

Yes we must shut down the government but we must shut it down for a better reason than mere pique, it must be shut down in support of a plan that tells the people that here is the solution, here are your jobs, here is the future for your children, here is the light at the end of the tunnel. Shutting down the government to save 2% of 2010 deficit fails utterly to offer the people such a vision. It risks all for no advantage and threatens to exhaust our momentum for no better reason than to save face.

Let's get to work from top to bottom and articulate why a plan like Paul Ryan's is worth mortal combat-because it saves us all from mortal peril. Let us pick our fights as Machiavelli would have us do. Let us fight to win, let us fight to kill off the enemy, let us be sure of our tactics and strategy, let us rally the people to the colors.

Soon we will have a replay of last night's crisis in the struggle over the authorization of the debt. Will we be ready?


49 posted on 04/09/2011 8:17:12 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: KeyLargo
Not really a question of what the Republicans got out of the deal, the question is what America lost. That is (in my opinion) a chance to seriously take the first steps to deal with the disaster that is looming on the horizon.

The 2012 budget fight has not even begun yet, but it will be a repeat (times 10) and the Republicans will get virtually nothing. Ryan's plan is effectively dead.

Best thing that could happen now is if the gov’t steps on the gas peddle to drive this country into complete bankruptcy ... a complete financial collapse which will take decades to get out of.

Maybe future generations will look back and make sure this never happens again.

50 posted on 04/09/2011 8:27:48 AM PDT by CapnJack
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