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Life after deportation: Young citizens left behind when Mom and Dad leave country
Chicago Tribune ^ | April 6, 2011 | Chicago Tribune

Posted on 04/09/2011 4:06:25 PM PDT by moonshinner_09

In the two years since her father was deported, 13-year-old Elisabeth and her three younger siblings have settled into an after school routine while their mother, Maria Lourdes, works long hours at a beauty salon.

The family shares a cramped bedroom in a Waukegan apartment. When school friends wonder why her father is no longer in the picture, Elisabeth has learned to change the subject

"I don't answer," she said. "It's such a long story."

After Elisabeth's father was deported, the family moved briefly to Mexico. But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan with her children, who were born here and are U.S. citizens. She, like her husband, is undocumented, but has applied for a visa to remain in the country. Now, the four children carry on in America as best as they can, just like a growing number of young people who were born in this country and have seen one or both parents deported.

Those who work with such children say they've seen an increase in the cases locally. As a result, churches, schools and advocacy groups are left scrambling to help once-stable households deal with poverty, foreclosures, academic failure and other problems that come when so-called mixed immigration status families are split up.

The separation creates an "angry generation" of children who feel traumatized and disaffected but still choose to stay in the U.S. rather than face potential poverty, violence, and cultural and language barriers abroad. For some, advocates say, life in America is all they know.

"It's a horrific situation," said Josh Hoyt, director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights. "Given that we have this vastly increased number of deportations … we're trying to create infrastructure or support, specifically for people that have done nothing criminal other than come

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cultural and language barriers in all fairness their parents speak spainsh, have told them all about Mexico. What I do not get is, come to the U.S. illegally, then decide to go ahead and have children knowing fully well what the outcome will be, if and when Immigration catches them. The parents created these problems not us. Nobody ever said life was fair but you cannot say because I broke the laws in coming here after which I have kids, the laws are suppose to be ignored. Chances are good said family members will return in a few weeks.)specifically for people that have done nothing criminal other than come here to work in order to work either there is fake or stolen documents involved , driving without licenses and insurance. There is more to it, then I just showed up to work. Where is Rep. Luis Gutiérrez, he has a million friends, who can take care of these kids. Seems like the supporters are few and far when it comes down to spending their own money.
1 posted on 04/09/2011 4:06:27 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

SOB. Apparently Mexico has zilch to offer them. This is so sad. I must lay down.


2 posted on 04/09/2011 4:08:27 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: moonshinner_09

The deportees are rotten people to abandon their children in a foreign country.


3 posted on 04/09/2011 4:09:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Drango

4 posted on 04/09/2011 4:10:56 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: moonshinner_09

yeah, boo hoo!

Don’t like what happens when you break the law, then don’t break it.


5 posted on 04/09/2011 4:11:43 PM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (Infidel Inside)
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To: BenLurkin
The deportees are rotten people to abandon their children in a foreign country

Exactly correct!!!

6 posted on 04/09/2011 4:13:04 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: moonshinner_09
"It's a horrific situation," said Josh Hoyt, director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights

yeah yeah, Cry me a river

come to the US legally and this would not be a problem

7 posted on 04/09/2011 4:13:16 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: moonshinner_09
After Elisabeth's father was deported, the family moved briefly to Mexico. But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan with her children

This isn't about deportation this is about a couple who couldn't get along. Big whoop.

8 posted on 04/09/2011 4:15:31 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: moonshinner_09
and are U.S. citizens

No they're not. They just say they are.

Let's have a vote of the citizenry - the electorate - on whether illegal aliens - their parents - are the people who get to choose who will be the Americans of the future.

I know the result already.

9 posted on 04/09/2011 4:16:51 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: moonshinner_09
Oh, brrruuuuuther.

There seems to be a ramp-up in these kinds of stories lately. The Commies are prepping for an amnesty-but-we-won't-call-it-amnesty vote.

10 posted on 04/09/2011 4:19:59 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: moonshinner_09
But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan with her children,

Domestic discord, and that sweet, sweet EITC check she gets every year.

11 posted on 04/09/2011 4:20:39 PM PDT by denydenydeny (The corollary to "If it's not close they can't cheat" is "If it is close they will definitely cheat")
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To: Charlespg; Chieftain

I came to this country with my parents legally as a child...My parents had to have strict background checks, medically screened, etc. Moreover, there had to be a “sponsor”, an American citizen who would provide for you for housing, finances, etc until you got a job or place to live. If you got sick or had financial problems, the sponsor was responsible.

We were called the slang”DP’s”! (displaced persons) and we tried to learn english as fast as we could..My family became naturalized citizens and to their dying days, my parents said and deeply felt “This is the best country on earth!!”

I can tell off any illegal immigrant...Let them say soemthing to me, I literally came off the boat!


12 posted on 04/09/2011 4:20:56 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Where is the Great Santini NOW when we need him?)
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To: Charlespg
"Immigrant and Refugee Rights"

If these folks were coming here to flee Communism or Islamic Fascists Josh Holt would not give a rat's @$$ for them.

13 posted on 04/09/2011 4:22:49 PM PDT by wmileo
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To: moonshinner_09
The separation creates an "angry generation" of children who feel traumatized and disaffected but still choose to stay in the U.S. rather than face potential poverty, violence, and cultural and language barriers abroad.

Don't be angry, get on your knees and thank God that you are able to live in the land of the free and learn to act and vote in a way so as to keep it from turning into the place from which you fled.

14 posted on 04/09/2011 4:24:52 PM PDT by Mygirlsmom (Libs, we thought we made it clear in Nov....CAN YOU HEAR US NOW??????????)
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To: moonshinner_09
"As a result, churches, schools and advocacy groups are left scrambling to help once-stable households deal with poverty, foreclosures, academic failure and other problems that come when so-called mixed immigration status (they are NOT mixed immigration status for this woman - she, too, is illegal)families are split up."

As was reported before the 2008 election, over 5 million home loans went to illegal aliens, with no proof of citizenship, job, nor bank information. Now, the U.S. government is attempting to "keep people in their homes despite foreclosure" (forcing banks and savings and loan cos. to lower interest rate, now even going in the direction of lowering original price of home (mostly no loan payments have ever been made!)

There is no such thing as allowing illegals to return because of "domestic issues" she is illegal - deport her and usher her underage children right along with her, as other families do, children live with their parents!

15 posted on 04/09/2011 4:26:38 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: BenLurkin
Bull's-eye.

We're already paying through the nose to sustain these families, why don't we put that money towards a more useful purpose?

Deportees

16 posted on 04/09/2011 4:27:44 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: moonshinner_09
Secure borders would eliminate this stupid unnecessary “problem.”

But we can't have that.

Where would the Democrats get their new votes from?

17 posted on 04/09/2011 4:28:00 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: moonshinner_09

Minor children don’t “decide” to stay. They were abandoned by their parents.


18 posted on 04/09/2011 4:28:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: moonshinner_09

LIBTARD AGENDA SOB STORY, *not* A NEWS STORY.

CLASSIFY IT IN *DRAMA* & *THEATER* SECTION.


19 posted on 04/09/2011 4:29:48 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Give them a certificate of live birth and send them home, one of them may become president of Mexico that way. And it would be a grave injustice not to give him his/her chance.


20 posted on 04/09/2011 4:30:36 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: moonshinner_09

they didnt have to leave the kids..


21 posted on 04/09/2011 4:34:16 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: onyx
This is the same paper that made that despicable excuse for a human being-and worse excuse for a mother-Elvira Arellano-a cause celebre.

What do you expect?

22 posted on 04/09/2011 4:34:51 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: moonshinner_09
"...specifically for people that have done nothing criminal other than come here to work in order to work either there is fake or stolen documents involved , driving without licenses and insurance."

Many of these are felonies. ALL "undocumented immigrants" are criminals, no matter what their "intentions" were. Keep the families together....send'em ALL to Mexico. If the kids are citizens, they can come back when they are adults, and no, mommy and daddy will NOT be allowed back if, as, and when that happens.

23 posted on 04/09/2011 4:35:40 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: BenLurkin

I agree. What kind of parent would leave their kids in a foreign country? I’d rather us all be together and face hardships than wonder whether or not my kids were all right.


24 posted on 04/09/2011 4:36:46 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: moonshinner_09

No author but at the end: vortiz@tribune.com

Bet it’s Victor Ortiz and he interviewed the mother in spanish.


25 posted on 04/09/2011 4:43:09 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: moonshinner_09

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

too freakin bad


26 posted on 04/09/2011 4:45:55 PM PDT by Mr. K (Job #1 DEFUND THE LEFT Palin/Bachman 2012 -Unbeatable Ticket)
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To: moonshinner_09

“After Elisabeth’s father was deported, the family moved to Mexico.”

That should be the end of the story.


27 posted on 04/09/2011 4:47:29 PM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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To: moonshinner_09

Here’s an idea...... go home to papa!


28 posted on 04/09/2011 4:52:19 PM PDT by Feckless (I was trained by the US Government to Kill Commies and Radical Moo-slims. Now ain't that irOnic?)
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When school friends wonder why her father is no longer in the picture, Elisabeth has learned to change the subject

Baloney. Single parent children are now the norm, not the exception.

29 posted on 04/09/2011 5:00:26 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: Feckless

Ok, the parents come to the U.S. and try to make a life, illegally, and then the kids are “angry”? With whom? The U.S.? They need to blame their parents!!

I can see it now. As a white person, I get blamed for slavery which I didn’t commit, and now as whitey in the U.S., I’ll get blamed because immigrant kids got deserted by their parents.

Can’t win.


30 posted on 04/09/2011 5:01:22 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: hinckley buzzard

This isn’t about deportation this is about a couple who couldn’t get along.
___________________________________________________________

Not even. This “my husband is abusing me” ruse is commonly used to gain asylum here.

I don’t think there is any discord.


31 posted on 04/09/2011 5:01:46 PM PDT by free me (Sarah Palin 2012? You Betcha!)
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To: moonshinner_09

“potential” poverty; “marital discord”

Moms and Dads get separated and divorced over all sorts of reasons; Mom not wanting to live at the life-standard Dad can provide is one of those. Perhaps Mom should take steps to finalize a divorce and remarry in order to provide a family structure and support her children. Or perhaps Mom should accept responsibility for who she married, and the crime she and he committed, and return to her husband in Mexico, to work with him instead of against him.

Mom whining about it and expecting reparations (and teaching her children to, also) in whatever form one wants to call it, is nonproductive and just extends the children’s pain. Cowgirl up, Mommy Dearest.


32 posted on 04/09/2011 5:05:42 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Leave this country, you invader bums! I don’t want to support you and your loser parents who abandoned you. Be gone!


33 posted on 04/09/2011 5:15:03 PM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: moonshinner_09

The article seems to be saying that birthright citizenship is cruel to children.

Let us end it, then.


34 posted on 04/09/2011 5:15:47 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: moonshinner_09
Amendment XIV Section 1:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside...

Someone who is born to parents who are foreign nationals, here illegally, is not 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof', but born to parents of a another country. These are not immigrants, but invaders.

Had the parents been here legally, as legal immigrants, they would have been subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, and the children would be citizens.

I think that 'anchor baby' status is a gross misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, and I think that misinterpretation (by Globalists and other Open Borders types) is no accident, but a willing affront to our Soverign Country and our Constitution.

35 posted on 04/09/2011 5:18:49 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: moonshinner_09
This has little to do with being deported.

But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan with her children

36 posted on 04/09/2011 5:21:01 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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I live in Baja. I’m an American and I own a restaurant. I employee Mexicans. I also attend a local Bilingual Church. The USA has been deporting hundreds since 911. I see the impact everyday. Mostly Mexicans who have lived in the USA for 10-15 years and never completed their visa paperwork. If they get involved in any crime they are deported and never allowed to apply again. There is supposed to be a 10 year waiting period before being able to re-apply, but with the backlog most will never be able to apply. Most could sneak back across or hire someone to take them, but they all know if they are caught they go directly to jail and most are scared of going back. So the system is working. Unfortunately there are no jobs here. The Mexican government is incapable of creating any jobs. The tourist areas are hurting the most. Until this drug cartel issue is cleared up the struggle for jobs will continue. I have heard a few sad cases where they are dumped here in TJ and don’t know anyone in Mexico. But like most Mexicans they are survivors and they have seen this all before.
It will take another 3 to 5 years to clean up this mess and their image. Once that is done the influx of Americans will start up again. It is a beautiful place to retire. There about 25,000 Americans in Baja (I think). Beautiful weather, great people, no traffic and ocean views that would cost you at a minimum $500,000 in CA. The growth of the Americans moving here and the construction of vacation homes came to a standstill about 3 years ago.
Most of the violence in Baja is in TJ. If you mess with drugs and are in TJ after 1am you will find trouble. Until the American military brings down a professional Army to train the Mexican military this will take 10 more years. The Mexican Military is not getting the support they need and do not have the discipline that the USA military has. Anyway these are my thoughts..........


37 posted on 04/09/2011 5:35:42 PM PDT by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: OddLane

I don’t expect anything honest out of Chicago.


38 posted on 04/09/2011 5:57:15 PM PDT by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Please do not assume Mexico every time, they are the main source of these scofflaws, but certainly not the only.

They rolled the dice, hoping the kids would be an anchor to keep them here despite the law.

It’s time to reiterate that MERELY being born here, to ILLEGAL ALIEN parents is NOT a shortcut to permanent “immigration”!

We are being invaded, deport the entire family, NO exceptions.

In addition reduce LEGAL immigration from any source country by three times the number of illegals detected from that country.

We also need to repeal the “Kennedy Amendment” ASAP.

Personally, I have reached the point that I would eliminate ALL immigration, for at least ten years.
We have no actual control of our borders, we need a chance to catch up with the problem.
Eliminating legal immigration would free up more resources to deal with the illegals.


39 posted on 04/09/2011 6:16:34 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Good comment about breaking the law and then being surprised at the consequences. None the less, the children are innocent parties and I value every immigrant that chooses to live in the US legally.

My dream solution to illegal immigration would be to try the immigrants by a jury of their neighbors. If twelve neighbors unanimously choose to give them amnesty, then let them stay. I think a lot of US citizens would be deported if given a trial by their neighbors.


40 posted on 04/09/2011 6:22:55 PM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Seek you first the kingdom of God, and all things will be given to you.)
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To: cromero

OK, you “Own” a restaurant in Baja?
Are you Irish, of do you have a Lease, not ownership?

With all the Illegals that have been deported AFTER gaining education and experience in living in a country that is NOT totally corrupt it would be reasonable to expect some of them who are NOT criminally inclined to band together and create a better society.
Even if only in a single state, maybe a few rural villages, then network those villagers and improve the whole country?

But this is not happening, the opportunity is there, the will apparently is not.


41 posted on 04/09/2011 6:28:11 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: zerosix
As was reported before the 2008 election, over 5 million home loans went to illegal aliens, with no proof of citizenship, job, nor bank information.

This really aggravate me on a personal level. I struggled for years to save up the 20% down payment on a modest condo in 2007. 2 years later it's barely worth what I owe on it, and these illegals want sympathy? If I went to Mexico I would be forbidden to own real estate of ANY KIND no matter how many years I lived there.

Jan 20, 2013 Can't Get Here Soon Enough!!!

Disclosure: I understand this sort of thing has been happening for years, I'm just so tired of hearing Soetoro lecturing us on, "not accepting people because they're different".

42 posted on 04/09/2011 6:34:55 PM PDT by YankeeReb
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43 posted on 04/09/2011 6:36:54 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: moonshinner_09

“It’s a horrific situation,” said Josh Hoyt, director of the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights.”

Find out where this lying, sniveling leftist pig lives and send him 10,000 illegals for free food, shelter and medical care.


44 posted on 04/09/2011 6:37:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (The democrat party is a seditious organization and must be outlawed)
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To: onyx
You're in good company.

Crook County is not held in the highest esteem.

45 posted on 04/09/2011 6:38:37 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: moonshinner_09
But domestic discord led Maria Lourdes to return to Waukegan...She, like her husband, is undocumented...

"Domestic discord?" I guess it's easier to be a baby mamma to FOUR child on Uncle Sucker's dime than in Mexico.

Your children belong with you... in MEXICO where they can see their FATHER and extended family. Or did you sneak all them in too?

She applied for a visa? It should be DENIED. You broke into the United States. You dropped one two three FOUR anchor babies over 14 years. You should not be rewarded. This is something you brought on your children. Not us. Not them. YOU. You and your 'estranged' husband.

46 posted on 04/09/2011 7:31:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The article seems to be saying that birthright citizenship is cruel to children. Let us end it, then.


47 posted on 04/09/2011 7:39:56 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
It must annoy you to see stories of the millions of lawbreakers profiting after your family made the sacrifice taking the time and trouble to emigrate the right way.

You know, better than most, why we had the legal immigration system we did. It was above board and a fair deal.

"Immigration" now is lawless, exploitive, seedy.

48 posted on 04/09/2011 7:46:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Kozak

It’s a real “sob story” isn’t it?


49 posted on 04/09/2011 7:49:23 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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I guess it's easier to be a baby mamma to FOUR child on Uncle Sucker's dime than in Mexico.

FOUR children. Sloppy editing on my part.

50 posted on 04/09/2011 7:50:57 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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