Skip to comments.It's No Deal, It's a Sellout
Posted on 04/09/2011 5:39:41 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
John Boehner has just given away the Republican victory of 2010 at the bargaining table. Having failed to stand firm for just $61 billion in a budget of $3.7 trillion, how can we expect him to stand firm over the debt limit extension or the 2012 budget? We can't. The excellent budget proposals of Paul Ryan are no more than a pipe dream now. It violates our campaign promises to the American people. We promised $100 billion of cuts and we delivered $38 billion. Obamacare will not be defunded; welfare spending will not be cut nor work requirements imposed; the FCC will not be stopped from regulating talk radio; Medicaid will not be block granted and turned over to the states. We've accomplished nothing but we've learned a lesson: We need to to purify our party and purge it of the likes of Boehner. The Tea Party must take the lead and we must not let the RINOs win!
(Excerpt) Read more at dickmorris.com ...
The question now is what are the Republicans going to do about righting the ship. It seems to me the big fight starts now.
Inside the DC “bubble,” it’s a big win for Boehner. In the real world it’s a joke. One penny saved on the $1000 bill of spending — if you even consider a minute “reduction in an increase” meaningful.
Theyre selling independence,
Actors in the white house,
Acid in digestion,
Mortgage on my life,
Mortgage on my life.
The deal sucks.
Even when Morris is right he still makes my skin crawl. Toe sucker.
LOl! I feel the exact same way.
It’s a sad day when Morris is more conservative then the GOP leadership
Keep buying gold and silver. The dollar is toilet paper.
As in Punch and Judy!
He sure has the part down, doesn't he?
some more choice Dick Morris topics:
Still No Budget Deal [Dick Morris Slams Michelle Bachmann]
A DEADLOCK ON THE BUDGET WILL DEFEAT OBAMA IN 2012
Dick Morris: Newt for President
 Morris: At last, Hillary looks stoppable
Morris: The spoilers of the 2008 race are Gore and Giuliani [2006?7?]
This deal isn’t important as important as Paul Ryan budget and the debt ceiling is. Actually, I’m surprised they held their ground for $38B.
If the Republicans were smart they would tie the Ryan budget to increasing the debt ceiling. If they pass the debt ceiling without the budget you might as well forget any hopes of getting the Ryan budget through.
Yep really sad. But true. And Trump is the only one fighting Obama. The Republicans we fought for spend the day praising Obama and appeasing the MSM. Oh well I am going back to being just another Libertarian Kook. The effort to elect them does not appear to be worth it.
1) Roll back congress’ budget to FY2000 levels.
2) End all retirement benefits for elected or appointed officials, including congress itself.
3) Especially end all retirement benefits for SPOUSES of congress. Why on earth they get benefits I've no clue at all.
Until CONGRESS takes serious the idea that they're spending someone else’s money and gets their own financial house in order, everything else is just play money to them. Shifting mountains of money for political effect, rather than treating it as money taken from us, sometimes even at gunpoint.
You don't retire from Congress, you get told someone else is going to take over the duties and you can go back to your life now.
The Republicans not raising it has less than a Snowballs chance in Hell. They will squawk and Squabble for show and make up some new scam to sell the fools. Then raise the Debt Limit. Obama will be made out as a Centrist and all will be well inside the Beltway. They will go on vacation and return for the Huge Washington Extraveganza of the Year! The Fall Splitting of the Loot Celebration and Feast! It happens every Halloween.
“Extraordinary deal”?? We just saved 6 days of borrowing at current deficit rates. I call it extraordinarily BAD.
It was a feeble effort, much more show than go. In the face of a multi trillion dollar problem he made his stand over what amounts to nothing more than a few days interest on the national debt. Not good
No one talks that much about a great deal, if it was so good, the American people would already know that, they would not need any probing from the lame old media!
Same basic question I asked my Tea Party friends. With this who thinks the repubs will have the guts to do the right thing on the debt ceiling and 2012 budget. I do not. I do see how they could do it but they are gutless so I fear without OD intervention all is lost.
OD = GOD’s
This is just a continuing resolution funding the Govt temporally. This is not the annual budget. Right? There was no budget passed in 2010 for 2011 so CR’s for a few weeks at a time are the way the govt is being funded. The 2012 budget formed in 2011 will be the big fight.
What, by this action, was done with the Federal budget:
A family with income of $26,000 a year is spending $38,000. (Add eight zeroes to each of those figures and you have the federal budget.)
The so-called man of the house tells his family, We cant go on like this. Our credit cards are near their limit, and soon we wont even be able to pay the interest on them. We need to spend less, so lets cut spending this year by $630 to $37,370
After a few days of conflict at home, he cant bear the pressure. He goes back to his family and sheepishly tells them he will be satisfied if they cut spending by only $390, and that he will accept the family spending $37,610.
Why should we have any confidence Republican leaders will have the courage to address the remaining $11,600 in my example (multiplied by 100 million in the federal budget) when they cant hold out even a weekend over a lousy $240 that won’t even begin to address the problem?
Im thoroughly disgusted with not just them, but my supposedly conservative Congressman that voted them into positions of leadership. Why give majorities to Republicans when the allow Democrats to dictate the agenda and the results on any issue of consequence?
Planned Parenthood abortion mills defunding
Did the Republicans win ANYTHING?
No. The cowards caved on everything. I am done with Boner and the rest of the em-effers.
Boehner and the OP(formerly the GOP) sold the Constitution as they have done for decades. This time they did not address the root cause of the problem. The root cause is due to Congress expanding their powers far beyond the enumerated powers granted to Congress in Article 1 Section 8 of the Constitution. Violating Article 1 Section 8 has created not only an Unconstitutional government but one so large it has become cost prohibitive.
The only way to reduce federal spending is by eliminating all federal agencies not in compliance with any of the enumerated powers in Article 1 Section 8. Doing so will dramatically reduce the size of government along with the associated costs. Any budget proposal that does not address this issue is nothing more than smoke and mirrors!
Who is this “we” Dick Morris speaks of?
I agree with that. The Ryan plans are the only comprehensive and serious proposals on the table. They also deal with entitlements like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security which will go broke if not reformed. The proposals may not be perfect and will be debated but AT LEAST someone has seriously addressed the real problems. Meanwhile, Obama and most Democrats are reduced to being critics with no viable proposals of their own and only defenders of a failed and bankrupt welfare system.
It really aggrivates me seeing them praise the Prick. They have not even fought back against the vile slander of the Tea Party that got them elected. They are not Worthy.
Right - and one of the big battles ahead is whether or not to raise the debt ceiling.
The Rats only want to Tax. More Taxes is their game and more Loot to split up. They will continue until they either take every last Penny of private property or they are stamped out.
Exactly - that amount is like a thimble full of fresh water in the ocean. But at least it’s a tiny step in the right direction. Or is it meaningless? You decide!
A complete sellout.
And a completely worthless “cut.”
How much did Bush spend to fight AIDS in Africa? Somewhere around this cut.
The country is facing the death of its currency and the GOP dickers over a few billion dollars.
They should be using incrementalism — favorite tactic of the Left — to hack away at our deficit spending and to pay down our debt.
They should be talking about hundreds of billions for this first round of cuts.
Then, once they win that, it should be another several hundred billion. On and on until we cut the hell out of not just federal spending, but the entire federal government as the Leviathan it has become.
I know what you mean but let’s not be too quick to shoot the messenger. Morris can READ PEOPLE and is a genius at discerning public opinion. Just ask Bill Clinton.
So if Boehner had gotten the $61 billion in cuts instead of $38, so-the-hell-what?!
Freepers are crying because he got 1% instead of an ultra-conservative Tea Party approved 2%?
I’m with you. See my tagline. Right now we only have one party.
Despicable for ANY politician - but for the CIC?
Our soldiers are NOT ‘nonessential personnel’. How the HELL did he get away with that?
Another part of this equation: Yesterday, BEFORE it was known in there would a shut down, our soldiers got a notice regarding their next paycheck due: They were warned that they wouldn't get paid for the 9th-15th of April!
I can tell you that the looming probability of their pay checks stopping weighed heavy on them, especially the ones deployed. They were worried about their spouses and children back home: Mortgage, food, bills.
In addition, our soldiers would be required to show up for duty every day - while not getting paid.
HOW COULD A CIC DO THIS?
However, the REAL nonessential personnel, would NOT be expected to work - AND were to get unemployment!
Now, answer me this: This cut off of soldiers pay was already all set up - before it was even known if there’d be a shut down.
Name me one other time the gov’t has gotten ANYthing done on time? Even this budget fight was over a budget that was, by law, supposed to’ve been passed last year! (And they admit they didn't do it last year because of things that would come to light that would cost a lot of them reelection! So they were able to get away with ignoring the law on passing an annual budget without repercussions - and...
Well, I'm still to angry and disgusted to write all I'm thinking...
Except one more note: Chucky Shooomah likened the Tea Party to nothing but a flea on the tail of a dog - the tail being the Republican Party - and the dog being the gov’t - i.e., HIM and crew.
When are we going to educate these ‘enemies domestic’ that they are there as ‘representatives’ to carry out the will of WE THE PEOPLE - they are NOT there as RULERS.
See the post on David Frums article.
We do need another one. Maybe a T-Party. After this there will be Hell to pay by the RINOS.
Real conservatives are pissed because:
Obamacare marches on
Planned Parenthood abortion mills march on
EPA regulatory tyranny marches on
NPR marches on
What rock have you been under?
That’s no joke. Let me tell a personal story. Many years ago I met an old woman who emigrated here from Germany and the Weimar Republic in the 1920’s. She told me (still with emotion) how the paper currency had become worthless due to inflation and that to feed oneself and survive one was reduced to pawning gold, silver and jewelry for basic necessities. That instability led to the rise of Hitler who became Chancellor in 1933. We think a similar situation could never happen here. Think again! It would involve different people and events but the end result would be the same — loss of liberty.
I believe that if our so-called CIC had not held our soldiers as pawns, there might well have been a different outcome. the troops had ALREADY been notified - before we even knew if there'd be a shutdown or not - that they were not getting paid for APril 9-15th!
This liliy-livered CIC - who'd probably faint dead away if someone put a combat rifle in his hands - promised to veto the bill the republicans had to make sure the military would still be paid. But the POS CIC was making sure they would get docked, even tho' they would be required to still 'show up for work' unlike the true 'nonessential' workers, who would NOT have to work AND would get unemployment!
Take our soldiers off the board - they never should've been there - and I surmise you'll see a different outcome.
We need to start this drum beating NOW.
LEAVE OUR SOLDIERS ALONE. They are NOT "nonessential"
Of all the disgusting things this POS CIC has done, this is the worst. (And may just be the only promise he's ever kept!)
Sometimes I think the whole thing is a puppet show and we’re all in the peanut gallery!
Don’t give me nightmares!
It is all about numbers. Take the amount we need to save, divide by the number of years it will be acceptable and reasonable to eliminate the debt and that is what is needed each year. It has nothing to do with sypporting theTea Party or GOP position.
But I don't see any of you pissed off that our so-called CIC held our soldiers as pawns?
And I don't see anyone bringing that out on the media.
Take our soldiers off that chess board and you'll see a different story.
Why is NO ONE furious at what he did to our soldiers and how he used them? (see my post #36)
Boehner has blown his credibility and the Democrats know it. He'll fold on the debt ceiling, guarantee it.
The $100B in spending cuts was a test, Boehner blew it big time.
When Obama showed his true colors was when the Republicans proposed a measure that would fund the military regardless of the outcome of the debate about budget cuts. And Obama said he would VETO any such legislation! Even for a far-Left liberal or socialist I found this to be incredible! If the Republicans don’t make that an issue in 2012, they’re crazy. Who could imagine a Commander-in-Chief saying he would defund our armed forces unless he got his way on the debate about budget cuts??!! Did you know about that?
I can't understand it either, especially after the Republicans howled to the heavens that Ubama and the Democrats had sunk so low in their zeal to preserve abortion money that they were actually threatening to stop paychecks for our fighting men and women....
...Oh wait.. The friggin' Republican cowards barely made a whimper and utterly failed to take advantage of an issue that was handed to them on a golden platter.
Republicans = FAIL
I didn't use the word ‘veto’ but certainly spelled it all out.
Why is no one screaming about this - and we'd better NOT forget it come election time. We need to have some good ads on it. I hope the Tea Party will use it.
At least if any of the military families, friends and vets were obama fans, this should end it.