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Free advance care planning session offered
Grand Junction Free Press ^ | Friday, April 8, 2011 | Sharon Sullivan

Posted on 04/10/2011 5:35:48 AM PDT by BykrBayb

GRAND JUNCTION, Colo. — Grand Junction proclaimed Monday as National Health Care Decisions Day, urging all citizens to make their health care wishes known through advance care planning for managing a serious illness, or end-of-life care.

Living wills and advance directives are documents that spell out your wishes if you should become incapacitated due to a medical crisis.

Millions of people began filling out living wills and advance directives after the 1976 Supreme Court case of Karen Ann Quinlan, whose parents battled with hospital staff who sought to keep Quinlan alive through artificial means, even though she had lapsed into a vegetative state and doctors had determined she would never recover. The Supreme Court eventually ruled in the parents favor, who said they wanted Karen to die with “grace and dignity.”

People who make their wishes known in advance can avoid situations like Quinlan's, and that of another woman — Terri Schiavo — who suffered a cardiac arrest, that led to a vegetative state lasting 15 years before her mechanical life support system was removed.

The Mesa County Advance Care Planning Task Force, a group of local organizations, is offering “Medical Decision Making in Colorado” workshops on how to plan for end-of-life care, Thursday and Saturday, April 14 and 16. The sessions are free.

The sessions will include communicating end-of-life wishes to loved ones, and how to appoint a health care power of attorney. There will also be new information regarding living wills and other advance directive documents.

St. Mary's Hospital is hosting Thursday's session, and Hospice and Palliative Care of Western Colorado will host the Saturday workshop. Light refreshments will be provided.

Limited seating is available and reservations are required by calling Western Colorado 2-1-1.

GO&DO

What: Advance Care Planning Session - hosted by St. Mary's Hospital and Hospice and Palliative Care of Western Colorado

When and Where: April 14 - St. Mary's Saccomanno Education Center, 2635 7th St. April 16 - Hospice and Palliative Care of Western Colorado, 3090 N. 12th St. Unit B, Room 102 Both sessions are 9-11 a.m.

Cost: Free

Info: Register before April 12 by calling Western Colorado 2-1-1


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: deathbots; deathpanels; euthanasia; moralabsolutes; prolife; rtl; schiavo; terrischiavo; terrislist
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To: Ben Ficklin; Grizzled Bear; BykrBayb

No. Everyone does NOT want one. And most people know exactly what their family’s wishes are. Further, a “living will” can be over ridden by a court as we have seen recently. It is the death cult that is foisting these on people. They are NOT “living wills”. What we NEED is to take away the leftists and the court’s “right” to kill people they believe are inconvenient.


51 posted on 04/10/2011 1:19:28 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Ben Ficklin
What's the conservative position on this?

One more time: FR's God-given Life & Liberty constitutional conservative activism agenda!!

One more time:

As a conservative site, Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc.

52 posted on 04/10/2011 1:22:10 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Ben Ficklin; DJ MacWoW; BykrBayb
What's the conservative position on this?

Didn't you say all educated people are leftists? Why would you care what us dumb conservatives believe?

The issue about Terri was that her husband murdered her. He received a settlement based on his statement that she would receive medical care and therapy. The moment he had the money, he had her cat put to sleep and their wedding rings melted down. He threatened physical violence towards a nurse who fed Terri Jello. He didn't want her to recover.

By the way, it's not that we want to make your decision. We just don't want you making our decisions.

53 posted on 04/10/2011 1:22:51 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Ben Ficklin; DJ MacWoW
I've already answered your question.

Now, I have to agree with Corporal Ficklin on this one. He may have a history of obfuscating, but his very first post on this thread he made it abundantly clear where he stands. He's no friend to vulnerable people. You won't see him rushing to the defense of a little old lady being Schiavoed.

54 posted on 04/10/2011 1:22:54 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Learn to read, oh-so-overly-educated-one. I said the hospitals are forced to push them on their patients. You of all people must know that, since you obviously know everything there is to know about everything.


55 posted on 04/10/2011 1:24:41 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DJ MacWoW
"Everyone does NOT want one"

Nobody is forcing you. That's OK, push the decision off on your child.

56 posted on 04/10/2011 1:25:20 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: BykrBayb; Ben Ficklin

I agree that we know EXACTLY where he stands on life. And he has CLEARLY voiced his opinion of conservatives.


57 posted on 04/10/2011 1:25:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Grizzled Bear

You should fill out a living will that says you want to be hooked up to the machines.


58 posted on 04/10/2011 1:28:30 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Doesn't happen that way. And hospitals get lawyers to go to court to ignore them anyway.

Why don't you be a man and flat out answer the question that I asked you instead of dancing around it like a lefty?

Do you believe that you have the right to decide who is deserving of life?

59 posted on 04/10/2011 1:28:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Ben Ficklin; Grizzled Bear; BykrBayb

Terri Schiavo wasn’t hooked up to a machine.


60 posted on 04/10/2011 1:29:45 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Ben Ficklin

What “decision” are you talking about? Whether or not to murder me? My child will never have to make that decision. I taught him that murder is wrong.


61 posted on 04/10/2011 1:32:41 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I believe that I can decide if I want a living will and what I want to put in the living will.

And that really, really bothers you.

62 posted on 04/10/2011 1:33:21 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

You should have fish for dinner tonight.


63 posted on 04/10/2011 1:33:26 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin

No, you still haven’t learned to read. What bothers us is you lefties pushing your agenda on vulnerable people. Anyone who wants a “living will” can get one. They don’t need to be pressured into it by the likes of you.


64 posted on 04/10/2011 1:35:27 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin; DJ MacWoW; BykrBayb
You should fill out a living will that says you want to be hooked up to the machines.

I don't want to be kept alive artificially. I just don't want to be dehydrated and starved. It's so...progressive.

Food and water are not "artificial."

Please elaborate on your comment that "all educated people are leftists."

65 posted on 04/10/2011 1:36:09 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear
"Please elaborate......"

Satire.

The cultural populists masquerading as conservatives believe in the wisdom and virtue of the common man, thus they have contempt for people such as the bioethicist

66 posted on 04/10/2011 1:44:03 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; Grizzled Bear

In other words, conservatives are simpletons and liberals are educated, such as the bioethicist. He thinks we’re too stupid to understand what he’s saying. Wait until he gets around to evaluating our “Christianist fantasies.”


67 posted on 04/10/2011 1:53:27 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin

Damn I’m disappointed. I’ve been on this thread since 10 and no one has had the courtesy to call me a RINO.


68 posted on 04/10/2011 1:54:16 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; Glenn; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; wagglebee; metmom; DJ MacWoW; Grizzled Bear
I’ve been on this thread since 10...

Oops. That was under the name Glenn. You didn't start posting as Ben until post #16.

Is it true that moderators have a way of tracking the IP address, to determine if your claim to be two different FReepers is true?

69 posted on 04/10/2011 2:01:04 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin; DJ MacWoW; BykrBayb
Why would anyone call you a RINO when you are clearly a self important, elitist, progressive half-wit?

I'll cling to my Bible, Freedom and Guns.

You can keep the (hope and) change.

70 posted on 04/10/2011 2:02:43 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: BykrBayb
No, I'm am an educated conservative. I had quite a few hours in economics and accounting before switching to science I ended up with 28 hours of biology(including a course covering ethics) and 31 hours of chemistry.

I'm an old conservative, not one of the new populist conservatives that came in with Nixon's southern strategy

71 posted on 04/10/2011 2:02:57 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
That's projection on your part, lefty.

So you aren't going to be a man and answer do you believe that you have the right to decide who is deserving of life?

72 posted on 04/10/2011 2:03:16 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: BykrBayb; Ben Ficklin; Glenn; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator; wagglebee; metmom; Grizzled Bear
Is it true that moderators have a way of tracking the IP address, to determine if your claim to be two different FReepers is true?

Yes. They can track repeat trolls that way.

73 posted on 04/10/2011 2:06:03 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Ben Ficklin

You’re obviously educated beyond your ability to comprehend what you’ve been taught. That’s what us dumb hicks call an overeducated idiot. You’re no conservative. Just because your liberal college professors told you that conservatives are greedy, hateful, cold, heartless bastards who would sell their elderly grandmothers for parts doesn’t mean you are a conservative.


74 posted on 04/10/2011 2:06:57 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin
Damn I’m disappointed. I’ve been on this thread since 10 and no one has had the courtesy to call me a RINO.

So Glenn/Ben Ficklin, that was a clumsy giveaway.

75 posted on 04/10/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: BykrBayb
No, Glenn came in at 7:46 on reply # 4 while I came in at 10:05 on #16.

You should get down on your knees and thank me. This was just another dead thread until I came along.

76 posted on 04/10/2011 2:09:09 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; Glenn; Dane; DJ MacWoW; BykrBayb

Hmmmm...


77 posted on 04/10/2011 2:12:10 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: BykrBayb
Is it true that moderators have a way of tracking the IP address, to determine if your claim to be two different FReepers is true?

You are such a knucklehead.

78 posted on 04/10/2011 2:13:03 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn; BykrBayb
You are such a knucklehead.

Whoa up there, Trigger. Free Republic has had it's share of Paleos who used "sock puppets" to create false support for their liberal perspectives.

I'm pretty sure both Dane and Willie Green used them.

79 posted on 04/10/2011 2:17:40 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: BykrBayb
"educated beyond your ability to comprehend what you've been taught"

I had a career in industrial chemicals. Analytical chemist, formulating chemist, management(in a union shop), sales. I've worked in consumables and capital equipment. I know a lot about the manufacturing sector, the Mexican workforce, pollution control and abatement.

80 posted on 04/10/2011 2:18:02 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin; BykrBayb
I had a career in industrial chemicals. Analytical chemist, formulating chemist, management(in a union shop), sales. I've worked in consumables and capital equipment. I know a lot about the manufacturing sector, the Mexican workforce, pollution control and abatement.

Hi, I'm Abraham Lincoln's grand father. My claim is about as valid as yours.

81 posted on 04/10/2011 2:21:56 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Ben Ficklin
16 posted on April 10, 2011 11:05:39 AM EDT by Ben Ficklin

But okay, you must live in the Central time zone. My mistake.

82 posted on 04/10/2011 2:22:40 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Glenn
You are such a knucklehead.

So I've heard. On this very thread, come to think of it. All us conservatives are just a bunch of uneducated hicks.

83 posted on 04/10/2011 2:25:24 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin

So you’ve had a lot of jobs. Am I supposed to swoon now?


84 posted on 04/10/2011 2:26:27 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

This is simply disgusting.


85 posted on 04/10/2011 2:56:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Welcome to the thread. There’s only a couple trolls this time.


86 posted on 04/10/2011 2:58:13 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Glenn; BykrBayb
I learned early in life not to waste time arguing with zealots.

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I'm surprised then that you've deigned to grace us with your presence.

87 posted on 04/10/2011 2:59:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Keep going. That one’s boring. The smartest liberal in the world is here!


88 posted on 04/10/2011 3:01:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Ben Ficklin; BykrBayb
I hate to tell you this, but with a name like BykrBayb, you are going to have a hard time convincing anyone that you are a qualified bioethicist.

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"Bioethicist" is simply a euphemism for "death monger". BykrBayb is pro-life.

89 posted on 04/10/2011 3:02:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Thank you, GB.


90 posted on 04/10/2011 3:03:44 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BykrBayb
I have some sympathy for them. It must be awful to feel that way about oneself.

Still, promoting the pro-death agenda cannot ever be accepted.

91 posted on 04/10/2011 3:09:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ben Ficklin; BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee

Thanks, but I don’t recall anyone on this thread asking for your resume.


92 posted on 04/10/2011 3:11:08 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

That’s the one. And he calls himself an educated conservative, as if that’s a rarity (and as if he really is). I mean you’ve got the first sort of main stream Conservative American, who’s articulate and bright and clean.


93 posted on 04/10/2011 3:12:38 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
Keep going. That one’s boring. The smartest liberal in the world is here!

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Yes, I saw that. We're all too limited to really discuss this issue with him. I wonder why he's been on FR for so long?

I really mean that.

94 posted on 04/10/2011 3:14:04 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: BykrBayb; DJ MacWoW; wagglebee; Ben Ficklin

How demeaning for him to associate with those on this site. Ah, well. I doubt that we can ever hope to understand such a rarified being.


95 posted on 04/10/2011 3:18:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Whoa up there, Trigger

Thanks for your input.

96 posted on 04/10/2011 3:21:37 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Glenn

I’m still waiting for you to back up your position that millions of people rushed out to sign away their right to life in the wake of the removal of Karen Anne Quinlan’s respirator. Since you have the time to post now, go ahead.


97 posted on 04/10/2011 3:31:37 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
Since you have the time to post now, go ahead.

Apology accepted.

98 posted on 04/10/2011 3:33:20 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: trisham
Not true. In response to her statement that I was educated beyond my means to comprehend what I was taught, I pointed that I had a career in what studied.

That's not the problem. The problem is that the populists masquerading as conservatives hate educated people and celebrate their own ignorance.

Its simple. You all are irritated that I have living will.

99 posted on 04/10/2011 3:34:26 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Glenn

Is your lack of reading comprehension the proof of your superior intelligence?

Is your inability to back up your claims the proof of their accuracy?

Are you always like this, or are you having a medical situation for which we should dial 911?


100 posted on 04/10/2011 3:38:29 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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