Skip to comments.Hawaii official denounces 'ludicrous' birther claims
Posted on 04/10/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by Nachum
Comments follow statements by Donald Trump questioning legitimacy of president's birth record
The Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama's original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is "real" and denounced "conspiracy theorists" in the so-called "birther" movement for continuing to spread bogus claims about the issue.
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"Its kind of ludicrous at this point," Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the former director of Hawaii's Department of Health, said in a rare telephone interview with NBC.
Fukino, sounding both exasperated and amused, spoke to a reporter in the aftermath of Donald Trump's statements on the NBC Today show last week questioning whether Obama has a legitimate birth certificate.
Trump, who says he is considering a run for president, repeated his claims on CNN's "State of the Union" Sunday, saying that "nobody has any information" about the president's birth and that "if he wasn't born in this country, he shouldn't be president of the United States."
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Prove it’s “ludicrous”
Produce a birth certificate
sooooo just pop out the original and prove em all wrong!
Every American has had to produce a real BC....so THIS really could get legs...
“”Its kind of ludicrous at this point,””
In other words: Obama is president now so just shut up.
There is no time like now to prove everyone wrong and show the birth certificate.
HI liars ping.................
Trump is correct in saying that while Obama may have been born in Hawaii, it is clear his is going to lot of effort and expense (of our money) to hide something possibly more sinister.
Why spend 2 Million if producing a simple long form birth certificate?
Am I reading this correctly? Is she saying that if Obama himself wanted a copy of his birth certificate he could only get a copy of the Certificate of Live Birth?
Party affiliation not mentioned, so obviously not a Republican.
Obviously a Democratic Party leftist.
I guess the new forgery has been finished and is ready for public consumption. Oh-oh!
“Its kind of ludicrous at this point,” Dr. Chiyome Fukino>>>>>>
No one is dumb enough to believe this Democrat hack.
Furthermore, Trump isn't going to keep picking at this unless he has the goods on Obama. It appears that the WH doesn't know what Trump has found out.
As always, there is much more to this than meets the eye.
SHUT THE BIRTHERS UP! I DARE YOU TO SIMPLY SHOW IT!
There is a “there” here. It’s fun watching all the libs squirm and spin. Wonder why they don’t just produce it?
Because they know it will collapse their house of cards.
It just won’t go away.
no the idiot from the AG ‘s office Joshua Wisch is saying that and it is not correct...
But Wisch, the spokesman for the attorney general’s office, said state law does not in fact permit the release of “vital records,” including an original “record of live birth” even to the individual whose birth it records.
“It’s a Department of Health record and it can’t be released to anybody,” he said. Nor do state laws have any provision that authorizes such records to be photocopied, Wisch said. If Obama wanted to personally visit the state health department, he would be permitted to inspect his birth record, Wisch said.
But if he or anybody else wanted a copy of their birth records, they would be told to fill out the appropriate state form and receive back the same computer generated “certification of live birth” form that everybody else gets which is exactly what Obama did four years ago.
Anyone wonder what the RATs would do or say if there was a national donation drive to hire expert private detectives to work this case on behalf of We The People of the USA? Or, is Donald Trump doing that for us? Anyone know for sure?
It’s so ludicrous, in fact, that they’ve spent millions trying to make the whole issue go away. If it’s so ludicrous, produce the danged thang.
She NEVER said she personally saw it
Her statement was picture-perfect “Clintonesque” in its delicate parsing and appearance of stating the opposite of what you really mean.
She said SHE SENT A REPRESENTATIVE.
She never even said he saw it, only that she was confident in the results (or somethin smilar)
If you read her statement at the time and look for anything that says the long from birth certificate exists and was seenm you wil not find it
Even now sh is not saying I SAW IT she is saying SHE CANT BELIEVE THE ISSUE STILL EXISTS (not quite the same thing)
Why is Trump afraid to say the words "natural born Citizen"?
And so we are just supposed to forget that the sitting Governor of Hawaii, after searching for two weeks, concluded that a BC “probably does not exist.”
“Its kind of ludicrous at this point,”
What is ludicrous, and insuting to the American people, is refusing to show the BC.
If there isn't a long-form BC (which at this point seems likely), just what did they use to issue the electronically-generated birth “certification” document?
And if the only original records relate to Barry Soetero’s adoption, why wasn't the certification issued with that name, instead of BHO?
These people have a lot of ‘splaining to do. And almost as much at stake should the truth come out as Barry himself.
Is that pig starting to squeal? I think so...
WE need to get the democrats on board (or at least the appearance of democraps hee hee hee) by getting them to mock the tea party by saying they are going to show the BC once and for all
Obambi wont know how to react to that, except to tell them to be quiet and then we have THAT on record...
Mainland media has also continued to focus attention on the birthers. CNN’s Lou Dobbs last week demanded Obama’s original birth certificate. That was followed by CNN/U.S. President Jon Klein telling staffers of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the issue is a “dead” story, according to a Los Angeles Times report.
In an e-mail, according to the Times, Klein wrote that CNN researchers had determined that Obama’s 1961 birth certificate no longer exists because Hawai’i officials had discarded paper documents in 2001 a claim denied yesterday by Isle health officials.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino, JABSOM "Distinguished Alumna"
That's because Trump has got some on the left questioning the story now too.
She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files
This confirms what I think; I think he has a real BC but there's something incriminating on it.
I would almost believe that COLB is all he could get, except for the the fact that Obama has spent millions FIGHTING the release of the other form. If it's true that the COLB is all that HI will release, they would be spending money fighting the case, not Obama personally.
This story has Bob Bauer's fingerprints all over it.
I noticed Isikoff didnt ask Governor Abercrumb about his inability to find the long form, just a notation...sloppy reporting.
The uninformed morons of America are satisfied that the jpeg of Obama's fake COLB is a "birth certificate".
This is why Trump needs to keep hammering on the differences between a short form, versus a long form bc. This is the basic cloak that Obama's hiding behind.
The spokesperson for the HI attorney general’s office has said that HI law will not allow the original BC to be given even to the individual. If thats true how come numerous other people born in HI have posted their long form BC’s online as proof that the original BC shows much more info than the COLB and is signed by a doctor? Not to mention that BHO wrote in “Dreams From My Father” that he found his birth certificate among other items. So unless he conveniently lost it he has one.
Somebody correct my memory but did Fukimo every actually say the Obama was born in HI or did she just say she viewed the birth certificate? If so how come the new Gov was told there isn’t one? HOw come that guy who worked in the HI elections dept in 2008 was told they didn’t have one? Somebody is zooming somebody here.
Looked at the article linked, if any of this is true, he will grant himself a pardon.
“Trust, but verify”. Ronald Reagan
Dr. Fukino could easily offer tangible proof of her assertions by showing the document or documents. Surely the Kenyan usurper would be delighted to show his bonafides?
At the very least, she could name the doctor and the hospital, rather than merely asserting that such exist. Even if the Kenyan usurper hasn't asked her successor to make public such records, he could be proactive and ask for such permission.
Dr. Chiyome Fukino Hawaiian state health official who personally reviewed Barack Obama’s original birth certificate has affirmed again that the document is “real” .
I say they show the “original un-retouched documents”, the good Doctor swear on penalty of death or STFU. Some dem’s word about the color of Stop signs isn’t worth spit.
Like she has nothing to lose if it found out there is no long form BC...maybe there is but what else is in their files and is it a forgery?
New Dr. Chiyome Fukino interview.
The first is that the original so-called “long form” birth certificate described by Hawaiian officials as a “record of live birth” absolutely exists, located in a bound volume in a file cabinet on the first floor of the state Department of Health. Fukimo said she has personally inspected it twice. The first time was in late October 2008, during the closing days of the presidential campaign, when the communications director for the state’s then Republican governor, Linda Lingle (who appointed Fukino) asked if she could make a public statement in response to claims then circulating on the Internet that Obama was actually born in Kenya.
Before she would do so, Fukino said, she wanted to inspect the files and did so, taking with her the state official in charge of vital records. She found the original birth record, properly numbered, half typed and half handwritten, and signed by the doctor who delivered Obama, located in the files. She then put out a public statement asserting to the document’s validity. She later put out another public statement in July 2009 after reviewing the original birth record a second time.
So can we see it? Why won't you post it on the web? If they can post the COLB they can post the long form. Period -- end of smear campaign.
OK, so Obama should have no trouble authorizing the DOH to provide a certified copy of the long form and his other records to the governor of Hawaii. Why didn’t he do this back when Gov. Abercrombie claimed to be trying to put the issue rest earlier this year?
Has to be part of the WH plan since they had just sent out a spokesperson to talk on the issue recently. No coicidence.
Anybody who wants this go get even more exposed. Post links and or comments on USENET FORMUMS and they WILL become the results in Google search
okay....forget the BC....let’s see the Passport History....
Yea....I believe this person.....right.....is the Dr. honorary?
What needs to happen is Americans enmasse mail and email this Hawaiian official and challenge/dare them to prove Bammy’s citizenship by simply producing his long form BC and to stop the blustering and obfuscating. Make them hateful and sarcastic poking fun at how moronic and idiotic they are making themselves look by trying to protect their Dear Leader.
Oh yeah. Get the phone number and leave lots of voicemails and keep her office so busy with it all that they just finally give up and release it. We have to be relentless.
What is missing from ALL the Hawaiian official statements so far? There’s at least one normal thing that gets addressed in such responses that they haven’t ever addressed.
First of all, that image of the alleged Obama COLB that was put up on the internet has been proven to be fake, so NO, Obama didn't "fill out a form" to obtain it.
Secondly, the short form bc (COLB) isn't accepted as proof positive of identification by many gov't agencies, and even private institutions. Americans who were born in Hawaii still have to produce their long form birth certs, just like any other Americans. There still must be a mechanism for them to obtain a copy of their long form birth certificate, or they're in a world of hurt.
I was without a valid Texas driver's license for a couple of months, some years back, because the state of Texas accepts ONLY a long form bc as proof of identity.
Now, what if I'd been born in Hawaii, and my long form had gone missing? I'd be screwed, if Hawaii would only give me a COLB.
And transcripts, theses, voting records, appointment calendars, call records, tax returns before becoming President.....etc. The whole damned nine yards....they did this to Bush.