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Damned Stupid Republicans Blowing It, Again
Riehl World View ^ | 4/10/2011 | Dan Riehl

Posted on 04/10/2011 5:10:47 PM PDT by Qbert

We all know that in terms of seriously addressing America's debt issues, the recent deal to avert a government shutdown is all but insignificant. So, what is the conventional wisdom being created to define it?

Obama Advisor David Plouffe: Budget Cuts Both 'Draconian' and 'Historic' Plouffe Lauds Bipartisanship

NRO and others on the Right are praising Boehner as a terrific leader, saying he accomplished something great - when, in relative terms, he didn't come close. Meanwhile, the Democrats are busy casting it as historic, if draconian - and accomplished through bi-partisanship.

So, where does that leave a hapless GOP currently led by Boehner if they ever seriously want to take on spending, perhaps through the Paul Ryan budget? Boehner squandered whatever political capital he may have had on a couple of fronts, got next to nothing beyond some favorable headlines, while a narrative is being framed to undercut any future serious effort to address America's tremendous debt.

Clearly the current GOP leadership is not up to the job Americans elected them to do in November. And too much of the Right-side chattering class seeking seats at the lunch counter through access, not serious journalism, to cover them, is more an obstacle to progress, than a serious part of the solution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; budget; davidplouffe; notthisshitagain; rinos; shutdown

1 posted on 04/10/2011 5:10:52 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

I think they should go after Obama rather than praise him.


2 posted on 04/10/2011 5:16:47 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks and so do the RINOS.)
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To: Qbert

The sole purpose of the Republican Party is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.


3 posted on 04/10/2011 5:18:43 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: Qbert

No serious leadership in Congress. Spineless sissies, every one of them. No credible candidates for President. RINO’s and damaged goods, every one of them.

Four more years of the Kenyan Muslim? Might happen. I am very, very pessimistic these days.


4 posted on 04/10/2011 5:19:51 PM PDT by Astronaut
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To: Qbert
Dude it's the Punch and Judy show!

Judy's supposed to take the Punches!

The GOP is nothing more than the shadow feint of the DNC!

Do they, or do they not share a lot of the same goals/behaviour?


I don't know what to fear more.

0bma following the Bush doctrine.
or
0bma following the Bush doctrine.

5 posted on 04/10/2011 5:21:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: screaminsunshine

“I think they should go after Obama rather than praise him.”

Yeah, one would think.


6 posted on 04/10/2011 5:21:40 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Astronaut

“No serious leadership in Congress. Spineless sissies, every one of them. No credible candidates for President. RINO’s and damaged goods, every one of them.”

I think as many Tea Party Republicans as possible should distance themselves from this muddle-headed mess- otherwise they’ll go down too with this sinking ship.


7 posted on 04/10/2011 5:27:48 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: screaminsunshine

“I think they should go after Obama rather than praise him.”

They’re being “Statesmen.”

Time tush out the Grand Old Potty and get another group of freshmen in there and take control of the Party. The few that are there will take a long time to work into leadership and they get bought off and corrupted too quickly. The freshman gang needs to put pressure on “The Crier” and the rest of the old timers, give us a chance to put in more new blood in ‘12 and keep fighting the Marxists in power. Make no mistake; our biggest problem is thinking that the GOP is with us instead of against us. If a third party is out of the question, we need a coup on the GOP and take them over fast. The primaries should be our focus.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 5:31:01 PM PDT by jessduntno ("Money...can't exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them." - Rand)
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To: GourmetDan

The author of this article doesn’t know about what he speaks.

We have a government that is Leftist-run. Pubbies are the right-wing Leftists and the Dem-bulbs are the left-wing Leftists. They both work together to advance the cause of Leftism.

Think of the Pubbies as the man in the marriage with no spine and the Dems as the Feminist Beyotch from Hell. The Dems push the agenda along and the Pubbies meekly say, “Yes, dear,” but occasionally make noises to try and prove they have a spine to the public but to no avail because actions speak louder than words.


9 posted on 04/10/2011 5:32:48 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: GourmetDan

The Washington Generals of the political world.


10 posted on 04/10/2011 5:34:51 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: GourmetDan

PUB’S ARE ALSO BIG SPENDERS, JUST LIKE THE DEM’S. BOTH ARE
$$$ ALCOHOLICS. THE PUBS ARE ‘ENABLERS’ AND KEEP FEEDING THE DEM’S. PUBS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SOLVING THE $$$ ALCOHOLISM FOR EITHER PARTY. SAD FOR AMERICA AND MANY AMERICANS’


11 posted on 04/10/2011 5:44:00 PM PDT by mulligan
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To: Qbert
The Journal Editorial Report on FNC has additional commentary...

The WSJ's Paul Gigot, Dan Henninger, Mary Anastasia O'Grady and Stephen Moore discuss the winners and losers of the "shutdown showdown"-VIDEO

GIGOT: So $39 billion in one year, I never -- well, in my lifetime that has never happened.

HENNINGER: Right. And it's just the beginning. Ultimately, this was a political exercise, Paul. And one of the things that came out of it was that -- what we learned is that John Boehner outsmarted the strategist on the Democratic side.

Complete Lexis-Nexis Transcript

12 posted on 04/10/2011 5:44:00 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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OK, what the hell are you expecting, superman? We witnessed for the first time in our lifetime what all branches of government (saving the judicial) can do when one party rules, and more than half of the opposing party are wimps. Now that one of the largest election swings in history has occurred, still leaving the Dems in power, your expecting what... the wimps of the opposing party to give up their power and move over for the tea partiers.

Its going to take a lot more work to unseat the wimps and to educate fair minded americans... its an unending war, never to be settled, unless you pull out all the stops and go civil war, and even then, the devil will find a way back. Ok, we got our jollies voting for the first black president, and he was a marxist, maybe some out there have learned... but we never stop fighting, never, never, never!... for the moment you start thinking you’ve won, you’ll get smacked upside the head.


13 posted on 04/10/2011 5:44:16 PM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: Qbert

The Ryan budget is like the Emperor’s new clothes as far as I am concerned. It’s the same old carp that’s been tried and we always seem to end up with more government later on rather than less with plenty of temptation to attach mandates to Federal spending. Whatever happened to the 10th amendment - the one thing that will reduce Federal spending?

I suppose that’s a different topic, but it is intertwined in the RINO establishment to protect the power that has been usurped from the states and ensure that it stays in Washington D.C. And that is why they are blowing the golden opportunity to set us on a path to constitutional order by focusing only on the money when our problems run far deeper and encompass more than just Uncle Sam’s bottom line.


14 posted on 04/10/2011 5:52:08 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Qbert

I agree 100%.


15 posted on 04/10/2011 5:52:17 PM PDT by Defiant (When Democrats lose voters, they manufacture new voters instead of convincing the existing voters.)
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To: Qbert

New tagline...


16 posted on 04/10/2011 5:55:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Want a balanced budget? It's easy. Just put government back within the Enumerated Powers.)
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To: All

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17 posted on 04/10/2011 5:56:56 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: Qbert
"Clearly the current GOP leadership is not up to the job Americans elected them to do in November." Boner. A corrupt criminal pResident will win reelection because of a third party caused by the spinless wonder John Boehner (pronounced /ˈboɪnɚ/ Bo-nər).
18 posted on 04/10/2011 5:57:41 PM PDT by Slambat (The right to keep and bear arms. Anything one man can carry, drive or pull.)
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To: Qbert

They just politicians, just like the rest of them - why the quandary?
If you want honest men in office, quit electing politicians!


19 posted on 04/10/2011 6:00:41 PM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (I've got that freshly screwed feeling)
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To: dps.inspect

“OK, what the hell are you expecting, superman?”

This week we will be witnessing the sad spectacle of Conservatives (less than half a year removed from the Nov. Elections) lining up, like lambs to the slaughter, to vote for the biggest deficit in our nation’s history...

Meanwhile, Obamacare is still being funding, the EPA is busy implementing economy-killing Cap and Trade regulations, etc., etc. Surely, you don’t believe that that was, “The best we could get”?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2702685/posts


20 posted on 04/10/2011 6:12:42 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: dajeeps

I have more faith in the Ryan budget- but there’s a slight problem: People are dreaming if they think Obama’s going to approve of it. We already know the drill: Lots of demagoguery, calls for taxes on the rich, and so on. The RINOs will “reach across the aisle” to compromise with him. We’ve seen this movie a hundred times before.


21 posted on 04/10/2011 6:18:26 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

The Gelding Old Party is about to get Whigged.


22 posted on 04/10/2011 6:24:30 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Qbert

America will continue to circle the drain when the only choices are the Evil Party and the Gutless Party.


23 posted on 04/10/2011 6:44:33 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Qbert

Gee shocker...


24 posted on 04/10/2011 6:44:58 PM PDT by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Qbert

The GOP cut defense spending and agreed to fully fund the Left’s agenda.

This is a win? Nancy Pelosi could hardly have done worse than Boehner and Cantor. Its no compromise at all!


25 posted on 04/10/2011 6:50:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Qbert

Dont call them republicans,call them rinos or rat light.


26 posted on 04/10/2011 7:01:44 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Qbert
When are some of you EVER going to understand? Politicians at the national level (and many at the state level) ONLY take care of those who line their pockets. That includes BOTH parties. Once they have been up there for a while, the overwhelming tempation from lobbyists providing all kinds of favors/treats/etc. gets them all. None of them represent the people nor do they care after about one year.
27 posted on 04/10/2011 8:26:36 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Qbert

How the heck should I know, I work for a living and posses only one vote. The question still remains, what are you expecting... its up to us to hold their feet to the fire...


28 posted on 04/11/2011 7:16:19 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dps.inspect

“The question still remains, what are you expecting...”

What was I expecting? What they promised us. At a bare minimum, 100 B in cuts, and defunding of Obamcare and the EPA implementation of Cap and Trade.

The House controls the spending- don’t fall for Boehner’s BS...


29 posted on 04/11/2011 7:23:11 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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But doncha know, the GOP leadership promises they'll really get 'em next time ... just you wait! [/sarc]
30 posted on 04/11/2011 7:31:15 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Qbert

In negotiating, you never start where you hope to end up... unfortunately the 100b figure was not where they knew they would end up... if you were expecting them to steam roll the White House, the Senate and the Rinos, then may I suggest that you expand your view of politics and realize, that will be impossible until we own all three branches of gub’men. What they did get was a “set up” for the 2012 budget battle and elections. Again, its up to us to keep their feet to the fire.


31 posted on 04/11/2011 8:09:49 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: dps.inspect

Again, the House could’ve defunded Obamacare, Cap and Trade, and other things if it wanted to. In the alternative, it could’ve demanded dramatic cuts (far beyond 100 B in fact) as a bargaining chip for *nor* defunding those things. The Dems are bullies, and they play for keeps- and you will never have anything close to a fair fight by playing small ball. The Dems would have no qualms about playing mean and dirty if the shoe was on the other foot.

The problem with your strategy is, what if Obama gets re-elected? We will still have Obamacare, C+T, NPR, etc., etc. I’d rather begin this fight now when we have assurance that something *substantive* can really be done, and not talk of “2012 battles” (to be fought by... Jon Huntsman, or Romney, or whoever Karl Rove and the boys try to foist on us).


32 posted on 04/11/2011 8:33:36 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Didn’t the house vote to repeal Obamanocare? This is a ground war of attrition that’ll take at least 20-25 election cycles to really begin reversing.

Keep having babies, train the children in the way they should go, respect and honor our military and keep voting them out every election or primary.


33 posted on 04/11/2011 8:50:48 AM PDT by DrymChaser (It's amateur hour at the White House, unfortunately it means Curtains for America.)
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To: DrymChaser

“Didn’t the house vote to repeal Obamanocare?”

Yes, they voted to repeal Obamacare (basically to make it look like they were actually doing something); however they declined to defund it.

They did the same thing with NPR, you may recall.

You have to watch these people closely- I hate to say it, but they are being very slimy.


34 posted on 04/11/2011 9:01:19 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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Umm... sorry, its not my strategy... my point was and is; we are where we are. Boehner is the speaker and a good portion of the house is still made up of Rinos (who mostly still hold the reigns power)... we’ve made some progress with the house... we now have to kick ass, and take the Senate and WH in 2012. I can be patient till 2012. If we cannot make the needed changes by then... we go Tea Party all the way, a third party... I’m on your side, believe me.


35 posted on 04/11/2011 11:32:49 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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