Posted on 04/10/2011 5:10:47 PM PDT by Qbert
We all know that in terms of seriously addressing America's debt issues, the recent deal to avert a government shutdown is all but insignificant. So, what is the conventional wisdom being created to define it?
Obama Advisor David Plouffe: Budget Cuts Both 'Draconian' and 'Historic' Plouffe Lauds Bipartisanship
NRO and others on the Right are praising Boehner as a terrific leader, saying he accomplished something great - when, in relative terms, he didn't come close. Meanwhile, the Democrats are busy casting it as historic, if draconian - and accomplished through bi-partisanship.
So, where does that leave a hapless GOP currently led by Boehner if they ever seriously want to take on spending, perhaps through the Paul Ryan budget? Boehner squandered whatever political capital he may have had on a couple of fronts, got next to nothing beyond some favorable headlines, while a narrative is being framed to undercut any future serious effort to address America's tremendous debt.
Clearly the current GOP leadership is not up to the job Americans elected them to do in November. And too much of the Right-side chattering class seeking seats at the lunch counter through access, not serious journalism, to cover them, is more an obstacle to progress, than a serious part of the solution.
I have more faith in the Ryan budget- but there’s a slight problem: People are dreaming if they think Obama’s going to approve of it. We already know the drill: Lots of demagoguery, calls for taxes on the rich, and so on. The RINOs will “reach across the aisle” to compromise with him. We’ve seen this movie a hundred times before.
The Gelding Old Party is about to get Whigged.
America will continue to circle the drain when the only choices are the Evil Party and the Gutless Party.
Gee shocker...
The GOP cut defense spending and agreed to fully fund the Left’s agenda.
This is a win? Nancy Pelosi could hardly have done worse than Boehner and Cantor. Its no compromise at all!
Dont call them republicans,call them rinos or rat light.
How the heck should I know, I work for a living and posses only one vote. The question still remains, what are you expecting... its up to us to hold their feet to the fire...
“The question still remains, what are you expecting...”
What was I expecting? What they promised us. At a bare minimum, 100 B in cuts, and defunding of Obamcare and the EPA implementation of Cap and Trade.
The House controls the spending- don’t fall for Boehner’s BS...
In negotiating, you never start where you hope to end up... unfortunately the 100b figure was not where they knew they would end up... if you were expecting them to steam roll the White House, the Senate and the Rinos, then may I suggest that you expand your view of politics and realize, that will be impossible until we own all three branches of gub’men. What they did get was a “set up” for the 2012 budget battle and elections. Again, its up to us to keep their feet to the fire.
Again, the House could’ve defunded Obamacare, Cap and Trade, and other things if it wanted to. In the alternative, it could’ve demanded dramatic cuts (far beyond 100 B in fact) as a bargaining chip for *nor* defunding those things. The Dems are bullies, and they play for keeps- and you will never have anything close to a fair fight by playing small ball. The Dems would have no qualms about playing mean and dirty if the shoe was on the other foot.
The problem with your strategy is, what if Obama gets re-elected? We will still have Obamacare, C+T, NPR, etc., etc. I’d rather begin this fight now when we have assurance that something *substantive* can really be done, and not talk of “2012 battles” (to be fought by... Jon Huntsman, or Romney, or whoever Karl Rove and the boys try to foist on us).
Didn’t the house vote to repeal Obamanocare? This is a ground war of attrition that’ll take at least 20-25 election cycles to really begin reversing.
Keep having babies, train the children in the way they should go, respect and honor our military and keep voting them out every election or primary.
“Didnt the house vote to repeal Obamanocare?”
Yes, they voted to repeal Obamacare (basically to make it look like they were actually doing something); however they declined to defund it.
They did the same thing with NPR, you may recall.
You have to watch these people closely- I hate to say it, but they are being very slimy.
Umm... sorry, its not my strategy... my point was and is; we are where we are. Boehner is the speaker and a good portion of the house is still made up of Rinos (who mostly still hold the reigns power)... we’ve made some progress with the house... we now have to kick ass, and take the Senate and WH in 2012. I can be patient till 2012. If we cannot make the needed changes by then... we go Tea Party all the way, a third party... I’m on your side, believe me.
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