Skip to comments.Democrat on Waukesha County vote panel speaks out - "jibe" dem back peddles
Posted on 04/11/2011 2:49:29 PM PDT by Jean S
Waukesha - The Democrat on the Waukesha County Board of Canvassers who was widely quoted as endorsing Waukesha County's official ballot count that flipped the Supreme Court winner last week has more to say.
The Waukesha County Democrat Party released a statement Monday ascribed to Ramona Kitzinger, 80, a member of the canvassing board since 2004.
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When will they accept they lost?
When the communists hand you the play book, you play by it.
I see the ‘boys’ talked to her.
That poor lady, she’s 80 years old and they’ve thrown her under the bus.
Why does it seem that people go out of their way to minimize the value of their excerpts?
They give us 300 words — we should use them to get across the point of the article.
Anyway, the jist of the article is that the democrats told the 80-year-old to write something damaging, so she did.
But if you read the entire article, what you find is that this democrat is confused as to why “nothing” came up in canvasssing about a “15,000-vote” error.
Of course, the reason nothing came up in canvassing is because there was never a 15,000-vote error in the vote tabulation. There were in fact SOME errors in vote reporting, with a couple hundred votes switching back and forth, or being added or subtracted, as they canvassed the precincts comparing the reported totals against a re-evaluation of the actual data.
But obviously, when they looked at the city numbers, the 15,000 votes they found matched the 15,000 votes that were REPORTED.
Because the problem with that city wasn’t an ERROR in the report, it was a failure to transmit the report. The City didn’t mistakenly report 0 votes, they correctly reported the votes, but someone forgot to send them on. That’s not an “error” that a canvassing board corrects, because the canvassing board is checking individual results against what was reported.
It is pretty much assumed that as the canvassing board completes each area, they then officially send the numbers. If absolutely NO numbers had been reported before canvassing started, there would still be NO canvassing errors related to the lack of reporting — just good numbers being reported from canvassing.
In my opinion, that might be a better way to do things in places where they are so incompetent they can’t seem to report things correctly.
It’s not a big deal in more modern places where they have figured out how to do fancy cutting and pasting.
>>>When will they accept they lost?
Sorry Charles but Righthaven is suing private posters on websites that have already settled with them. I’m not taking any chances.
Is this woman senile, or has someone been threatening her grandchildren?
....who was widely quoted ....
She said it LIVE on a televised Press Conference. The paper makes it sound like it was some kind of popular hearsay. Play the *()() tape.
She was widely quoted because she was quotable.
Poor thing, I honored her for her ernestnest in the press conference.
She seemed perfectly coherent when she said the “numbers jibed” last week, but I suspect she’s had some help from SEIU and AFCSME thugs in dis-remembering over the weekend. The poor lady is going to see another whole side of her Party.
Her job is to create doubt and confusion so the Smarter People can step in and take it from here.
Here’s the latest from the state election blog. The State official says the votes are there, always have been. The Clerk just screwed up in what was reported to AP, which when you think about it - who gives a rip?
GAB Director Kevin Kennedy says the agency’s investigation of spring election procedures in Waukesha County remains ongoing, but that the final canvass numbers in the city of Brookfield match the initial tallies from poll workers on Election Night.
“We don’t see, at this point, any criminal activity, but we certainly see practices that need to be changed to bolster public confidence,” Kennedy said.
GAB staff is now the process of matching those numbers for all Waukesha County wards after Brookfield ballots were mistakenly left out of Election Night returns from the county clerk. The numbers tentatively turned a razor-thin lead for Supreme Court candidate JoAnne Kloppenburg into a margin of more than 7,000 votes in favor of incumbent Justice David Prosser.
Kennedy also said GAB staff is reviewing Election Night practices in the county, saying he hopes to give the public and the press greater access to the county’s results and break them down by voting precinct so that the 24 voting wards in Brookfield wouldn’t be overlooked in future elections.
Kennedy also said the Milwaukee County canvass likely won’t be done until Wednesday.
When the press starts to laugh at them.
He’s getting phone calls fron all the Dem Orgs threatening his family, I’m sure.
Remember what the Democrats did to the county clerk from 2000?
You REALLY don’t want to be a Democrat that becomes an enemy of the Obamunist State right now.
Everyone's expendable for the "cause."
You talking about Florida?
They're fighting for their very existence. The facts are irrelevant.
When will the rank and file Democrats figure out that being a part of the Democrat party is effectively being a member of the mob? One would think that the close affiliation with the unions, would be a clear indication, but maybe they think that the protection only works one way. Someone should remind them that more mobsters are murdered by their peers than by the other side. The Democrats are never friends, they are only pretending to be so that they can get something.
I notice the majority of the comments are pro Republican...that is good!
Ramona Kitzinger, the Democratic member of the county board of canvass, defended the process. She agreed with Nickolaus that the board "went over everything and made sure that all the numbers jived up, and they did."
"I'm the Democratic vice chair of Waukesha County, so I'm not going to stand here and tell you something that's not true," Kitzinger said.
County Precincts D. Prosser (i) J. Kloppenburg
Total 3630/3630 739,886 50% 740,090 50%
They never concede they just muddle on till the next election... We on the other hand, are most willing to concede... if your gunna win against cheats, you’d better be willing “ get a little bloody” to borrow their phraseology.
I've been noticing that, too, as well as the higher ratings for these comments to boot. The Leftists don't have a rational leg to stand on.
I like this new technique of “zero-reporting” strongly conservative areas until just before the vote certification.
Some precincts/areas always seem to lag behind in reporting their votes, until they know how many “votes” are needed to swing an election. Waukesha is counted as “reported” and no one notices that their report did not increment the statewide counters. Then, when it is too late for the Dim precincts to “update” their vote totals, Waukesha comes up with their confirmed numbers. Thereby reducing opportunity for election theft.
I recall the 2008 Dim primary in Indiana. The East Chicago/Gary/Hammond votes did not come in until very late in the evening; after it had been determined that Hillary had won with more than 100K vote margin. If it had been closer, then it might have gone the other way with “found” votes coming in from that area.
This should say it all.
They "got" to her.
Yes, we can well afford to let them wallow in their angry pity party, squandering more of their armory, while we move forward with the business to be done. Let ‘em beat up on an old lady - the truth will eventually come out about the “talk” they had with her, and I’m going to enjoy her story.
“I recall the 2008 Dim primary in Indiana. The East Chicago/Gary/Hammond votes did not come in until very late in the evening; after it had been determined that Hillary had won with more than 100K vote margin. If it had been closer, then it might have gone the other way with found votes coming in from that area.”
And the DEMOCRAT Mayor of Valpo (Hillary supporter) going on CNN and saying the fix was in in Gary, that’s why they were holding back vote returns.
Yes, I do, too. Keep 'em guessing. An incredibly shrewd strategy.
Jean, I understand that Milwaukee canvass results aren’t in yet....any concerns being circulated among WI conservatives about that?
Thanks in advance to any who have good info, will check back later.
Milwaukee County results are still not in yet but Prosser can’t lose now. Even Milwaukee can’t come up with an extra 7000 votes.
The lack of the reporting is odd though.
The unions are all in on this even when it comes to intimidating an 80-year-old lady. Last gasp and sickening.
The Region just being the Region.
Today, Charlie Sykes was discussing “tipping point” and and surmised that perhaps he was overusing that phrase. A caller chimed in and offered the phrase “saturation point” describing how most people in Wisconsin are feeling about this constant agiprop.
I have sat in on Boards of Canvass as an observor and nobody there needs to know anything about computers. They just double check the numbers and recount the ballots, if necessary.
You can always tell a Democrat, but you can never tell them much.
Has anyone considered that the circus in Waukesha is a diversion from Milwaukee County shenanigans?
Milwaukee County still hasn’t reported, which is suspicious, but I can’t see them coming up with an extra 7000 votes to overturn Prosser’s win.
Let’s hope you’re right. But if they can get within striking distance, they can make up a lot of ‘votes’ statewide.
Please let me be right! This is a fight to the death with the public employee unions in WI.
Milwaukee County has not officially reported their vote count yet, nearly a week later, and no results yet.
She is basically saying that she would have liked advance notice about the difference before walking into a meeting and having to talk with the press.
LookLookLookLookLook and the 28,000 Kloppenhag Votes we found at the Zoo. YAY!!!
And so are the words spoken by a hostage. /s