Posted on 04/11/2011 4:02:15 PM PDT by dragnet2
LOS ANGELES (CBS) While Washington averted a government shutdown this week, California Governor Jerry Brown continues with his budget battles.
The governor may feel like hes in a recurring nightmare these days. Everywhere he turns with a proposed budget fix it gets shot down.
If we dont get taxes, if we dont get cuts, were gonna have a hard time balancing the budget, Brown said. Many of the Republicans told me, Were not taxing and were not cutting. Its your job youre the governor.
But Republicans who show up to protest at many of the governors events these days say its Brown whos not living up to his words.
Fix it, Governor Brown, and Ill be the first person that would be more than happy to give you money, said Robert Ledbetter, who was protesting outside one of Browns events.
California Republican Party Vice Chair Steven Baric says Brown is not showing hes much of a leader.
He promised he would show true leadership and hes failing to do that. And if he wants to show true leadership lets have true pension reform, Baric said.
this weekend, CBS 2/KCAL 9 political reporter Dave Bryan asked Governor Brown about the criticisms:
DB: Many of the Republicans I talk to say that theyre not convinced that youre serious about pension reform and about cutting the slack in government, cutting the bureaucracy down. They feel that you havent put forward, for example, a meaningful pension reform plan because of your connection to the unions.
JB: They have to say that to give cover to their position, which is No. Their position is No, were not going to help you. Were not going to do anything. Well, thats unacceptable. I did propose 12 points of pension reform.
The governor tells Dave he believes the country hasnt been this divided since the Civil War.
This week Brown has been using Civil War metaphors at his public events to describe the deep divisions in California, and the entire country for that matter, preaching with the passion of a born-again that the country is dangerously polarized.
We are at a point of civil discord, and I would not minimize the risk to our country and to our state. It is not trivial. Ive been around a long time, Im a student of history, Im a student of contemporary politics. We are facing what I would call a regime crisis. The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question, he said.
This week Brown has been using Civil War metaphors at his public events to describe the deep divisions in California, and the entire country for that matter, preaching with the passion of a born-again that the country is dangerously polarized.
On this, I completely agree with Brown.
And it hasn't peaked yet....
The “divide” is between those who are paying in to the government and those who are being paid by the government.
Reap the whirlwind!
Where is Captain Obvious when you need him?
“The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question,
Blame Algore — it started when Gore retracted his concession.
Actually, it’s barley just started my friend and will continue to slowly escalate as those in government continue to brutally assault the American private sector.
Civil War metaphors?
CWII maybe, if things don’t turning around quickly.
What are the Vegas odds that Moonbeam goes to New Hampshire to take on Obama? He sounds like the old Jerry - running for POTUS.
“start turning” that is.
Actually, its *barely* just started my friend and will continue to slowly escalate as those in government continue to brutally assault the American private sector.
Yes, just like 150 years ago, America is half slave (to socialism) and half free. And the slave half wants to run roughshod over the Constitution and the rule of law in order to further its goal of enslaving everyone.
We need more of the likes of Governor Walker.
He must feel like he is standing alone in a field politically.
2) Make a flatline subsidy for health insurance for all state employees of $400 a month. Allow employees to choose whatever plan they like.
3) Cap all retirement at $50,000 per year 2011 dollars. Cap any buyouts for retirement, etc at $12,000. Cap all payouts for unused leave or vacation at $12,000.
4) Cut vacations for all state employees to 2 weeks per year.
5) Evict the millions of illegal aliens and their anchor babies from California.
There you go, we can now have the lowest state taxes in the nation.
In 1966 Brown’s father tried to link Ronald Reagan to slavery in a campaign commercial. The logic was: Lincoln freed the slaves. Lincoln was killed by an actor. Reagan is an actor. Camera pans to the face of a little black child with tears in his eyes. This BS did not work in 1966 and it won’t work in 2011. The democrats made this bed, now they can sleep in it.
I wonder how much of a drain the freaking illegal vermin are on the kalifornistan/national budget? Get rid of them and you might free up a couple billion dollars.
He’s setting the stage for government to put it’s boot on our necks like was done to the confederates. Liberals want to tie this into a union (and the unions) vs the rest of us confrontation. He wants to shut us up for good.
More than likely his ‘fix’ is big taxes and small cuts.
More than likely his ‘fix’ is big taxes and small cuts.
Going, going, going Galt.
Too late my friend.
In the California of today it is less like the Civil War, more like the MexicanAmerican War of 1846 to 1848.
The only question: Which side is Governor Moonbeam on?
That’s one aspect, but the glaring factor here is the government not only enables all that but aids and abets it.
The only thing between us and a full blown regime crisis is an alternative to USG.
The Constitution has been overthrown. The revolution is betrayed.
And, for the GOP and the Democrats, the attitude is, "So? There's not a damn thing you can do about it".
That is, for the present, unfortunately true. But nature abhors a vacuum.
Power is lying on the ground, waiting for someone to pick it up.
Sooner or later, someone will.
The people against the government.
Yup.
Hey Jerry wanted the job (and he can’t say he didn’t know what that job was like). He got what he wanted.
Hey Jerry wanted the job (and he can’t say he didn’t know what that job was like). He got what he wanted.
“Yes, just like 150 years ago, America is half slave (to socialism) and half free. And the slave half wants to run roughshod over the Constitution and the rule of law in order to further its goal of enslaving everyone.”
Take a map of the US red and blue states. Take a map of the civil war. Notice anything? Then think REAL hard about what you just wrote. Then consider the issue of State’s Rights. Just be a little curious, that’s all.
For those capable of critical thought, that no longer works and hasn't for many years.
Brown you started this crap with public sector unions...reap what you sowed...

Sooner or later, someone will.
Yes. Yes, they will. An unflinching glance over the history of the last 200 years suggests that it won't bode well for any of us. The will to power - and the desire to harm others without consequence - trumps all.
>The legitimacy of our very democratic institutions are in question, he said.
Considering that America is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy I’d say he is finally getting a clue.
Our founders never intended for our government to be milking and bilking the taxpayers for the sole purpose of
creating an unmaintainable number of cushy government jobs.
Let’s just hope the military stays with American ideals and you pension thieves surrender to American terms rather than lose the hard way.
Uh no he didn't.
I believe that started in the 1950s, in New York City.
Trust me - things will manifestly NOT turn around quickly. There are consequences - dreadful ones - to all that has been done in the name of ‘progressivism’.
It’s a butchers bill, payable in blood.
uh California is the state we (I) was talking about 1970;s then shools in CA went from top five to bottom five, union teachers...
The nation is certainly polarized, with perhaps 15% up for grabs. The signs were first noticed on election night 2000, when the red state/blue state divide became part of political jargon.
Here is my plan:
** Absolutely get rid of the illegals!
***Allow any child of any age to take the GED or a similar private exam. If they pass, they get an official high school diploma from their local high school. This diploma makes them eligible for the army and college scholarships. To make it extra fluffy. Give them a $2,000 voucher for each year that they finish early. The voucher can be used at any time in their lifetime for post high school education or training.
** Move all sports, theater, arts, and music programs to the county departments of recreation. There should be no requirement whatsoever on grades to participate! Many children stay in school because government has the monopoly on farm team sport's training. Also...These programs create “rah rah” support for the schools in the voting booth. Fewer kids in school mean fewer teachers and fewer buildings to maintain.
** Have qualifying exams for all subjects starting in first grade. If the child masters the subject and passes a government or private exam, the child would be immediately promoted to the next level in the subject(s). This would encourage children to study during the summer and at home. The sooner the child finishes high school and passes the GED the more money he would get for post high school training or education.
** Encourage the expansion of charters, tax credits, and vouchers.
** Encourage the formation of “dame” schools. Allow neighbors to run “homeschools” ( dame schools) in their homes. The zoning and health requirements should be no more onerous than what now exists for day care.
** On the post high school level encourage the use of private qualifying exams. Charles Murray is right! We need fewer kids in college. Even in some of the professions, such as engineering, dentistry, law, medicine, pharmacy, nursing some of the lecture material could be placed on-line. the lectures Qualifying exams would test mastery. The course material could even be free if advertising paid the producers of the course. The result would be fewer kids in college and less need for college instructors and professors.
“Hes setting the stage for government to put its boot on our necks like was done to the confederates.”
It won’t be as easy as it was back then. The elites in the North had all the manufacturing and all the money. The Progressives wanted that war, not the people.
Uh no he didn't.
I believe that started in the 1950s, in New York City.
uh California is the state we (I) was talking about
Uh, the fact of the matter is it started in NY City and spread like wild fire.
Like this epic illegal invasion from Mexico, it basically started in CA, Texas and the southwest.
It's now nationwide, coast to coast in *every* state.
Democrats own everything in California, especially its FAILURE.
Go ahead, Governor Moonbeam. Do whatever you want. It’s your state you Democrats screwed up. It’s your’s to clean up.
Don’t wait on a Republican to lift a finger. You own the failure. Fix it yourself.
I think someone from Gov. Moonbeam’s office is reading FR. Civil War comparisons have been made on here for years.
What does it say when a Rat acknowledges it?
Start drilling for the damn oil off the California Coast and stop worrying about where the money is coming from, It will be coming from oil revenues.
The governor tells Dave he believes the country hasnt been this divided since the Civil War.
I don’t go back quite that far, but I see this as much more divided than during the 60s. Much more.
California is finished. Whites have been ethnically cleansed out of California. The WSJ reports that Whites went from 80% in 1960 to 40% today. Latinos are now 38%, poised to become majority.Let us be clear what will happen. Dr. Hanson you will be taxed out of your property. As my family will be out of mine. Latinos dont own much property. They are poor, having according the US Census Bureau a $16K gap in median household income, and much larger households (twice the size of Whites). Latinos also depend on the Welfare state. Latino girls have kids starting at age 16, routinely, while Whites have kids, mostly only when they can afford them. I have personally observed a Latino family ask for donations from the Charity I do some volunteer work for, in order to fund College expenses for the younger son (the older was in the program I did some work for). They drove up in the latest model Toyota Camry. Its a nicer car than the ten year old one I drive.
Whites are the functional minority in the state of California, and soon the US. We are basically Jews in pre-WWI Germany. Or Dreyfuss era France, whatever you prefer. Entirely predictable, Jerry Brown will follow the people who elected him. And push confiscatory property taxes on ordinary people, to finalize the ethnic cleansing of Whites in California. Then of course heavy taxes on the wealthiest will proceed.
But if I were you, Id prepare for those confiscatory taxes on your property. You are stuck, unlike a renting Silicon Valley executive, or Hollywood mogul also renting. Therefore you are the easiest tax target. As predictable as the calender California Latinos want the expansive Welfare state the supports their huge family formation, at the expense of White voters. The numbers have moved their way and its all over but the shouting.
Demography is destiny. California is over, its nothing but Northern Mexico now, and wont change any time the next century. For Whites, it is time to face the facts and emulate powerful role models: Theodore Herzl, David Ben-Gurion, Moshe Dayan, and Golda Meir. Yes this is distressing. But this is the cost of diversity. Lets be honest Whites as a minority can only expect the kind of treatment Jews have historically found in Europe. That is just human nature. California belongs to Mexico now, as surely as Gaza does to Palestinians.
Unpleasant, uncomfortable and decidedly unpalatable truths, to be sure, but truths nonetheless. We don't have to like it. Any of it. But we will have to deal with it. Demography is indeed destiny, - Mark Steyn has also said as much in America Alone. Those of us who live outside what will become urban hell-zones will have some hard, hard choices to make regarding the flood of hungry and desperate refugees, ravagers and killers who will be coming our way once the music stops.
Who will you feed? And at what cost?
Who will you take in? And at what cost?
And who will you kill because you must?
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