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Carroll County Woman Threatening Suicide Fatally Shot by State Trooper
The Carroll Standard ^ | April 11, 2011 | Copy Desk

Posted on 04/11/2011 8:54:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

(HAMPSTEAD, MD) – A Carroll County woman armed with a handgun and threatening suicide was fatally shot by a Maryland state trooper Monday evening after she refused repeated orders to surrender and pointing the weapon in the direction of police on the scene.

According to reports, troopers from the Westminster Barrack were called to the 4600-block of Upper Beckleysville Road, Hampstead, Md at about 5:40 p.m. today for a domestic situation between the 40-year-old woman and her sister, with whom she lived. While en route to the scene, a second call was received informing troopers the woman had armed herself with a handgun and was threatening suicide. The woman's sister reported she and her teenage daughter had locked themselves in an upstairs bathroom.

Two State troopers, a Hampstead Police officer and a Carroll County deputy sheriff arrived at the two-story home shortly before 6:00 p.m. and purportedly observed a woman moving between upstairs and downstairs windows repeatedly pointing the gun at the police outside the home. The woman refused repeated commands to drop the weapon and continued to point the gun in the direction of police. Presumably in fear for his life, one of the troopers fired his Department-issued .40 caliber pistol, fatally wounding the woman.

The woman was flown by Maryland State Police medevac helicopter to the University of Maryland Shock Trauma Center where she was pronounced dead.

The Maryland State Police Homicide Unit, Westminster Barrack Criminal Investigation Section, Internal Affairs Unit, and crime scene technicians from the State Police Forensic Sciences Division are continuing the investigation and are expected to remain at the scene until the early morning hours on Tuesday.

Police are withholding the identities of the woman and the trooper until family members have been notified and the preliminary on scene investigation is completed.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: domesticsituation; hampstead; handgun; marylandstatepolice; msp; police; shooting; suicide; suicidebycop

1 posted on 04/11/2011 8:54:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Suicide by cop.” Know a cop this happened to.


2 posted on 04/11/2011 8:55:54 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Suicide by Cop.

Cowardly bitch.


3 posted on 04/11/2011 8:56:07 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


4 posted on 04/11/2011 8:57:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: TigerClaws

I’ve known a lot of cops put into that situation.

It is the cowards way out, one that unleashes a hell for servants of the law who follow their training and shoot to live.

Now they are treated as the “suspects” and subjected to the vicious court of public opinion.


5 posted on 04/11/2011 8:59:09 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: lightman

He may have also been wondering about the fate of the sister/neice. Combine that with self-concern and that’s a pretty lethal conclusion.


6 posted on 04/11/2011 9:04:57 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Protectin' and servin', baby!

RIP, victim.

7 posted on 04/11/2011 9:09:04 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (You is what you am.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Roger that.

Forgot to add in my first post that the hell is also unleashed onto the officers’ families. It can be very hard on a marriage.


8 posted on 04/11/2011 9:11:54 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: lightman

Loaded or unloaded, don’t point guns at the Police. They will shoot you, and rightly so!


9 posted on 04/11/2011 9:18:40 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Naught else could be done.


10 posted on 04/11/2011 9:22:10 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Presumably in fear for his life, one of the troopers fired his Department-issued .40 caliber pistol, fatally wounding the woman.

Weird..
It sounds like the woman was observed moving around in the house for some time. I wonder how the trooper was caught by surprise in a position where he was not behind cover?

11 posted on 04/11/2011 9:22:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: TigerClaws
no one was in danger and they just shot her....how about a little mace?....a water hose?....nicking her in the leg and then tackling her...

another trigger finger "I got the right" policeman....

not buying it that she needed to be put down like a dog...not buying it...

12 posted on 04/11/2011 9:33:01 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

People who are suicidal are that way because they are mentally ill. It is hard on the cop, but you often can’t blame the person for it.

The person who called the police is now going to be plagued with nightmares - you are told to call 911 in such emergencies, but you don’t expect to end up with your family member getting shot. You think you are reaching our properly for help. It’s horrid for everyone.


13 posted on 04/11/2011 9:33:32 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: lightman
We just had a frightening situation here in my hometown last Thursday. A crackhead got high, walked over to his neighbor's house, and knocked on the door. When she answered it, he pulled out a .357 and shot her multiple times, killing her instantly. He then walked into her kitchen, used her phone to call 911, and told the dispatcher what he'd just done.

The victim was a nurse's assistant at the local hospital and had just moved into the house a few weeks ago. So far as anyone can tell, she'd never met her killer.

14 posted on 04/11/2011 9:43:39 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: I still care

The old saying, call 911 and die is true in more than one way. Someone called in good faith to get help for this woman. The responders bring guns and itchy trigger fingers.

Far too many folks ending up dead, blamed on suicide by cop.


15 posted on 04/11/2011 9:45:07 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: cherry
You seen too many movies. When handling real guns you can't just shoot the gun out of someones hand. Any person waving a gun around is a threat to the police and other bi standers. You shoot center mass until the threat is on the ground. The Statie just did not want to take the trip to the great beyond with the suicidal lunatic.
16 posted on 04/11/2011 10:01:37 PM PDT by gusty
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To: cherry

Yes, let’s just place the officer and the woman’s two family members in jeopardy just so that we can see if she can shoot someone after a little mace is tried - NOT. The officer IMHO did his job. If you don’t want to be shot by police, then do NOT point a gun at them.


17 posted on 04/11/2011 10:08:45 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier preparing to deploy to Afghanistan)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hmmmm...well. they did prevent a suicide.


18 posted on 04/11/2011 10:10:24 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

And a few murders along the way. A lot of suicidal people seem to like to take a few people with them before they off themselves.


19 posted on 04/11/2011 10:12:37 PM PDT by gusty
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I called the cops years ago for help in getting my extremely mentally ill husband to the hospital, and ended up having to get him out of jail, by hiring a lawyer I couldn’t afford.

That morning I got him to the hospital, and he ended up in there for almost three months - the arrest and lack of meds during jail caused a lot more damage,

It also set social services loose on me (the kids)

This was a problem the family and his doctors were handling, and then the government stepped in. They handled it with all the aplomb, deftness and ability they are noted for. Ha.

The lawyer told me after NEVER call 911 if you need an ambulance again.


20 posted on 04/11/2011 10:18:30 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

Damn..... Sad deal.


21 posted on 04/11/2011 10:20:25 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: cherry
I have come to think people who want to kill themselves may as well just do it. Not have a cop do it for them . My brother in law who was on all kinds of meds for years tried to kill himself. In & out of mental hospitals yet here in NJ where its hard enough to have a gun he had many. About 9 yrs ago as soon as it turned Christmas Eve he shot himself in the head in front of his father. Matter of fact the bullet went though his head & almost hit his father. He lived, costing taxpayers over a million dollars to save his life. He is blind, has to have 24/7 care & has made life miserable for our family. He hates being alive & I have grown to think they should have just let him pass on. If I sound bitter, it is because I am. He ruined his father's golden years & is a major pain in the butt. He feels no guilt for his actions & says when I lost my eyes. He didn't lose them he shot them out of his head. He expects us to live our lives around him & I don't feel we should. It has torn the family apart.
22 posted on 04/11/2011 10:25:08 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: count-your-change
Hmmmm...well. they did prevent a suicide.

To protect and serve...

23 posted on 04/11/2011 10:39:00 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour (With The Resistance...)
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To: cherry

A crazy woman with two hostages is running around waving a gun and pointing it at the cops and there was no danger to anyone? What planet are you from?


24 posted on 04/11/2011 11:12:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How many mags did this well trained cop use.


25 posted on 04/11/2011 11:52:45 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: gusty
Preventive execution? Prevents murder and suicide (plus speeding and illegal parking and so forth), works every time.
26 posted on 04/12/2011 2:28:37 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Lancey Howard

It is true; by what little I’ve seen/heard (I live in the region), it seems she was in the house and MANY police had the perp’s gun pointed generally at them. Presumably they were well outside the house with car cover, etc.; but maybe they were near the door/window, etc. I don’t know.

One thing I’d like to see more of with police is serious target training - if they’d shoot out a hand or leg, instead of the chest, they’d usually accomplish their task and not get in trouble for outright killing the perp. All the whining about “but it’s HARD...” doesn’t fly. If this is their career, they should get lots of time training and get better aim. Then the perp couldn’t run, couldn’t shoot, and all would be honky-dorey.


27 posted on 04/12/2011 7:36:02 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
There's not enough to go in this article to make a judgement. However, if I were the one who did this, I'd expect to be taken down: “refused repeated orders to surrender and pointing the weapon in the direction of police on the scene.”

Stupidity, emotional problems, and even mental illness are no excuse for disobeying reasonable legitimate authority and endangering others.

28 posted on 04/12/2011 8:22:07 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: pandoraou812

That is why, when I happen to be miserable, I take care not to make others around me miserable. Spread the misery is as lousy an idea as spread the wealth.


29 posted on 04/12/2011 3:47:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
If I am miserable I find some place to be alone. My BIL wants us all to pity him. I refuse. I said from the time we learned he would live he needed to go to a nursing home so my FIL could have a life. Or he could learn to be blind. Half the family says I am mean & I don't care. You screw around & blow your eyes out then deal with your actions. Learn how to be blind & not be a burden on the family. Sadly I see a bunch of enablers who feed into his drama. All I know is he isn't coming to live with me. If he was even a little sorry I could deal with it. However he blames his meds & drinking. Taking responsibility & saying I was abusing meds & alcohol would make me like him a little more & maybe not be as btchy as I am to him.....maybe. I just see what his actions have done & get mad.
30 posted on 04/12/2011 10:12:01 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (You can discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you.)
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To: pandoraou812

I don’t blame you. When I’m miserable, I’m usually in my room, watching TV and not complaining. I have the sense that nobody would want to hear it all the time.


31 posted on 04/13/2011 2:50:01 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Follow me on Twitter @mpetrie98)
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To: I still care

The only way to survive in the USA is near total isolation. Drop off the grid so to speak.

We are totally surrounded by insane vermin looking for an excuse to destroy people.


32 posted on 04/13/2011 4:34:32 AM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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