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Poll: Trump tied for first in race for GOP nod (CNN/Opinion Research poll)
The Hill ^ | 04/12/2011 | Michael O'Brien

Posted on 04/12/2011 9:43:23 AM PDT by Smokeyblue

Real estate mogul Donald Trump is tied for first in the race for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, according to a new poll of Republicans.

Nineteen percent of Republicans named Trump, who is flirting with a run for the party's presidential nomination, as their top choice for the nomination, according to a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Tuesday. Another 13 percent said Trump was their second choice in a nominee.

SNIP

Trump scored 10 percent in last month's CNN poll, meaning he effectively doubled his support over the course of a month.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; americanidol; donaldtrump; mediadarling; rino; rinoscared; trump; trump2012
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"Trump scored 10 percent in last month's CNN poll, meaning he effectively doubled his support over the course of a month."
1 posted on 04/12/2011 9:43:30 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

This is going to drive the Left insane....


2 posted on 04/12/2011 9:44:33 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

“This is going to drive the Left insane....”

It’s going to drive Ann Coulter and Karl Rove insane too.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 9:46:02 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Smokeyblue

The media is working real hard to crown a RINO nominee for us.


4 posted on 04/12/2011 9:46:15 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Smokeyblue
I'm not (necessarily) saying the poll is worthless, but they only interviewed 385 people. How in the world of statistics, is that a reliable sample-size, given we're a country of over 300M?
5 posted on 04/12/2011 9:46:55 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Smokeyblue

“It’s going to drive Ann Coulter and Karl Rove insane too.”

Sadly, it’s gotten to the point that if Karl and Ann don’t like it, then it’s probably something I would like.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 9:48:23 AM PDT by tatown (Obama is a turd)
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To: Smokeyblue

Not a surprise in just a short time. The Repub party puts themselves in a box when taking on the Dems. Trump has rejected the box and threw it away.


7 posted on 04/12/2011 9:48:35 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Smokeyblue
Trump on the issues.

Just to put it in comparison, here is Rudy's policy chart.

..and Bill Clinton's chart

From ontheissues.org He is way closer to Bill Clinton than he is someone we all agree is a RINO. Heck, on a straight right/left paradigm, he is almost identical to Bill Clinton.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 9:48:51 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: OldDeckHand

***Nineteen percent of Republicans named Trump*****

Well that explains it! Another political dynasty coming!! LOLOLOLOL!!!


9 posted on 04/12/2011 9:49:49 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Smokeyblue

The Obama WH (CNN is simply an extension of it) knows it needs both Huckabee and Trump to run to take Palin down. Romney is seen more of a nuisance than anything else.


10 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:30 AM PDT by techno
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To: Smokeyblue

Guess it couldn’t be due to his attention to the “non issue” of Obama’s nativity story... Or so says Beck/BOR/Coulter/Greta/etc


11 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:40 AM PDT by tips up
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To: Smokeyblue

Oh, friggin` joy.

If Trump is the GOP nominee, this`ll be the first Presidential election in which I don`t have a dog in the fight in the two major parties. Hellloooo Constitution Party!


12 posted on 04/12/2011 9:51:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: mnehring

Yep. The American Idle voters are eating it up.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 9:52:23 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

..and the media is crowning him for us. What’s the old saying; there is a sucker born every minute.


14 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:05 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Smokeyblue

When has CNN been a reliable source for conservative opinion? Where did they poll, the south side of Chicago?


15 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:23 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: mnehring

Every RNC candidate will fall into the Right Conservative area..... until its time to vote or lead, then they all cave and become “Maverick Moderates”


16 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:26 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: Smokeyblue

Expect “Me Too Mitt” to jump onto this bandwagon soon


17 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (this adminsitration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!!)
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To: sodpoodle
That's right. Not a single prospective candidate's lead exceeds (even closely) the margin of error (which is 5 percentage points - VERY high MOE).

All these polls say one thing - the GOP has absolutely no idea who they're going to pick. And, my guess is they won't until we start having real debates on the issues. Whomever does best in those debates, IMHO, will be the most likely to capture the nomination, although it's also possible that we continue to be fragmented and no one secures the requisite delegates before the convention starts.

18 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:57 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand
they only interviewed 385 people

So about 75 people liked Trump. ;-) I suggest that what they like is someone/anyone getting in Obama's face.

19 posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:06 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: mnehring

Where did the right conservative come from on Rudy’s chart? He opposed the gay marriage ban and partial birth abortion ban. Is that the new conservative position?


20 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:02 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: mnehring

America needs George Washington, not PT Barnum.


21 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mnehring
(re: the graph) That Trump is a real conservative, isn`t he?

/s

22 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: OldDeckHand

were these 385 people all in Ithica or Madison?


23 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:30 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: cripplecreek

Most of the American polity is enamored by celebrity and reality TV, they’d vote for Mr. Magoo if he claimed that Obama wasn’t born in the US.


24 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:59 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

AND the Right. Many of us don`t want the TrumpenRINO either.


25 posted on 04/12/2011 9:56:55 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
"were these 385 people all in Ithica or Madison?"

CNN newsroom, I suspect.

26 posted on 04/12/2011 9:57:28 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: ScottinVA

butt Trumpet


27 posted on 04/12/2011 9:57:41 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: esoxmagnum

So what will happen to someone like Trump who is left/liberal/populist? He’ll move further left and further populist. A lot of suckers now are buying his sudden ‘conversion’ ignoring he is a life-long liberal who among other things: supported the assault weapon ban, supported abortion, said amnesty is ‘necessary’, not only supports eminent domain seizures but used them for his own personal benefit, supports socialized health-care, supports progressive income taxes, and is financially tied to George Soros.

People are starting to sound like the Rudy defenders of 2007, ignoring his history of liberalism because he was a media darling.


28 posted on 04/12/2011 9:57:41 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: cripplecreek

IMHO,anybody with a reality TV show would poll fairly well.

I think The Donnie is a skinny Jesse Ventura.
Same old populist tripe.


29 posted on 04/12/2011 9:58:43 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Smokeyblue
I don't know what to think.

On the one hand, I fear the media has wised up to their pick for the GOP of Romney as not being realistic and has embraced Trump instead.

On the other hand, Trump is saying what I want to hear. And I think he has the skills to be a good President. Specifically, he has recognized where some of the trade probems are and talked tough on it. He has recognized the importance of cheap energy to the economy. He has recently come out against gay marriage, and against abortion. And he has also come out as a Christian saying that Christianity and only Christianity is the way.

I guess my concern comes from Trump's casinos and Trump having supported Hillary, and democrats and Hillarycare in the past.

I'd like to see clarification on where he thinks healthcare should go. And I'm not convinced that this embracement of conservative social values is real and not just a political move.

Still, someone who talks the talk, is more likely to walk the walk than someone who doesn't even talk it.

30 posted on 04/12/2011 9:59:12 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: jerseyrocks

A lot of Rudy’s issues are because he leans libertarian on things. The point is the comparison. If Rudy falls there, look where Trump falls and realize he is as far from anything we consider Conservative as they come.


31 posted on 04/12/2011 9:59:41 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: montyspython

LOL!! Even a swisher like Snagglepuss would have a shot if he made that claim, too!!

Remember? “Exit, stage RIGHT!”


32 posted on 04/12/2011 10:00:24 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: mnehring
The Trump oil salesman comes to town promising hope and change, salvation, cures for male pattern baldness, and freedom from oppression.

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33 posted on 04/12/2011 10:01:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mnehring

Why don’t you at least show a little honesty and post that the site you got this crap from only uses information from 1999-2000, or before. The garbage you keep posting is not only out of date but has little credibility or relevance.


34 posted on 04/12/2011 10:01:45 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: ScottinVA
Remember? “Exit, stage RIGHT!”

Even...

35 posted on 04/12/2011 10:02:14 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Mayor Jerry Springer.


36 posted on 04/12/2011 10:02:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: mnehring
"A lot of suckers now are buying his sudden ‘conversion’ ignoring he is a life-long liberal who among other things: supported the assault weapon ban, supported abortion, said amnesty is ‘necessary’, not only supports eminent domain seizures but used them for his own personal benefit, supports socialized health-care, supports progressive income taxes, and is financially tied to George Soros."

Thanks for that post. It's starting to look like Trump is going to be a significant contender in the primary and we will need to know his real history, bad and good, and not just his current stance.

37 posted on 04/12/2011 10:03:13 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: mnehring

Sorry don’t agree. Partial birth abortion is a step further then libertarian views. He is even for state funded abortions. If he was libertarian on the issue he would not be for people being TAXED to pay for other people’s abortions. I think your pie charts are backwards. Trump is more conservative on gay marriage and abortion. Two main conservative view points. Think you better try a new pie.


38 posted on 04/12/2011 10:04:39 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: Prokopton

Yet we judge others by their past. Most of the things we complain about Romney were a decade ago. Guess what, history is history, you can’t sweep it aside.

Just because a bunch of people are dazzled by this pop-culture darling and buy into the BS doesn’t mean we ignore his history.

The way things seem to be going, Kim Kardashian could say some positive things and we would have folks here wanting to vote for her. That ‘hope for change’ can blind people.

I sure am not going to stop pointing out his history of liberalism, even if the suckers complain.


39 posted on 04/12/2011 10:05:50 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: cripplecreek

Maury Povich for President!

He can find out who Obama’s real daddy is...


40 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:01 AM PDT by montyspython (This thread needs more cowbell)
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To: jerseyrocks

I’m not really arguing that point, only that knowing this about Rudy, put it comparison to Trump. That shows just how liberal he is.


41 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:41 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

If you knew your Constitution you would not be making those ridiculous statements.


42 posted on 04/12/2011 10:08:27 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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Yet we judge others by their past. Most of the things we complain about Romney were a decade ago. Guess what, history is history, you can’t sweep it aside.

I don't care if you post your "charts", even over and over again like you have, but at least tag them as historical charts from 12 years ago rather than lead people to believe that this is how they would look currently.

43 posted on 04/12/2011 10:12:12 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: jerseyrocks

Excuse me, I know the Constitution which is why I oppose this media darling, pop culture, RINO idol. Nothing in the Constitution supports what Trump supports.

Trump supported the assault weapons ban- a direct violation of the 2nd amendment.
Trump supports eminent domain seizures- a direct violation of the fourth and fifth amendments.
Trump supported abortion- a direct violation of the fifth amendment (deprivation of life) among other sections.

I can keep going and going.. but I’m sure it won’t get through to people who have RINO Idol sparkles in their eyes.


44 posted on 04/12/2011 10:12:56 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

What are you talking about. How can someone who is for partial birth abortion be more conservative then someone who is pro-life?


45 posted on 04/12/2011 10:13:31 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: Prokopton

They aren’t limited to 12 years ago, they contain data from when it is supplied. Clintoon and Rudy who I was comparing have been off the radar for a decade, until the past few weeks, Trump hasn’t made a lot of political statements for a few years except his financial support of folks like Rahm.

How about his financial ties with Soros just a few years ago in the range of about $130 million? Is that too far back in history for you?

Are those RINO Idol sparkles just making you ignore history and follow like a little lemming what he says this week?


46 posted on 04/12/2011 10:15:54 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Smokeyblue

So here’s a “what if” scenario. Trump’s folks discover the smoking gun that has the bulk of the Nation saying, ‘My gosh, the King doesn’t have any clothes on.” So now Trump needs to think about who the alternative Rat would be and how he’d play against them.


47 posted on 04/12/2011 10:16:13 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: mnehring

LOL. No you don’t know the Constitution because we are not run my a dictator. Our government has 3 branches for a reason. Perfect example is Obamacare. You have a President who is trying to push his ideology agenda on to the people. The people rejected and voted in a new Congress which is shredding apart his agenda piece by piece. And if they hit any bumps along the way the Judicial branch will help them. You are insulting are forefathers who have created a genius plan.


48 posted on 04/12/2011 10:17:18 AM PDT by jerseyrocks
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To: jerseyrocks

I’m not saying they are, all I’m saying is it is about comparison. That site treats everything equally. BUT once again, the point is comparison. I’m not saying Rudy is Conservative, but in comparison, Trump is almost equal to Clintoon.

IF Rudy is a RINO (which he is) what does that make Trump?


49 posted on 04/12/2011 10:17:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
RINO Idol sparkles in their eyes.

LOL The Jonas Brothers for president.
50 posted on 04/12/2011 10:19:01 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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