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"Ban The Box" Pittsburgh Councilman Wants Criminals to Have Easier Time Getting City Jobs
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | April 12, 2011 | Joe Smydo

Posted on 04/12/2011 10:15:25 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark

Pittsburgh City Councilman Ricky Burgess today introduced legislation that would remove questions about criminal history from the city's job application.

Often, in the public and private sectors, job applicants are asked to check a box indicating whether they have a criminal record. Mr. Burgess said his "ban the box" legislation is modeled on that of other cities and a handful of states.

The proposal is "not intended to mislead employers or enable ex-offenders to speak untruthfully about their pasts," Mr. Burgess' office said.

Read more: http://post-gazette.com/pg/11102/1138791-100.stm#ixzz1JKUXZZy5

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: criminal; government; pennsylvania; pittsburgh
I really don't know what to say. I'm sure this is "well intentioned". I'm sure it has nothing to do with getting more criminals hired by the City of Pittsburgh.

Right?

1 posted on 04/12/2011 10:15:32 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Let me guess Ricky’s party affilliation....


2 posted on 04/12/2011 10:17:05 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Member Emeritus of Vitriolics Anonymous.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Will rapists run transit at night?

Child molestors could run education.

Murderers could run the police.

Hmmmmm. There is city worth avoiding FOREVER.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 10:18:32 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Why bother? They can get better jobs in the Federal Government with less effort.

Holder’s “people” dontcha know.


4 posted on 04/12/2011 10:21:51 AM PDT by Panzerlied ("We shall never surrender!")
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To: clintonh8r

Ricky is a Democrap like 99.99999999999% of the town.

Still, he represents a district in the ‘hood where this is no doubt an issue.

There are many other neighborhoods where the residents, despite being rock-ribbed thick-headed Union straight-party Democrat voters, will not stand for this for a moment.

They’d be slitting their own political throats to pass this (unless the local Party then endorsed them....straight-party handle, dontcha know)


5 posted on 04/12/2011 10:21:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

The proposal is “not intended to mislead employers or enable ex-offenders to speak untruthfully about their pasts,” Mr. Burgess’ office said.

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Has to get the award for the dumbest statement of the day by a politician. Just what does he think will happen when a convict is no longer required to disclose his conviction? Isn’t that misleading?

No wonder Pittsburgh is going to hell in a handbasket.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 10:22:11 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
Swell idea. Let's let sex offenders work in child services. I guess I am being too harsh here. Most of PA city and state gov'ts are already populated with criminals who have just not been arrested yet.

Bob Mellow (D)

7 posted on 04/12/2011 10:22:41 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

If criminals have done their time and no one will hire them, and they can’t make any money, what do you suppose they will do?
Jail is for punishing criminals, but once they have paid their debt, they shouldn’t continue to be punished.
One last thing, sex offenders could never be a teacher or work with kids regardless because they couldn’t get a license.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 10:29:08 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: clintonh8r

You should also make note of the fact that Ricky’s real title is “Reverend” Ricky Burgess, from the Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson “Reverends” clan.


9 posted on 04/12/2011 10:30:45 AM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Sporke

I’m not against giving someone a second chance if they’ve paid their debt to society, but we need to be clear just what they’ve done.

A shoplifter or someone who sold dope would get a different standard of scrutiny than a serial rapist.


10 posted on 04/12/2011 10:52:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sporke
There are many unemployed people out there for every available job today. Why should we hide or camouflage a criminal or his record from a perspective employer.
Sorry, when they do the crime there is always a price to pay. Some of that price a criminal must pay is over and above what the court orders. If you steal money you are a thief for life. That title does not go away after you serve a few months in jail. A known thief will never get a chance to steal from me if I can help it. The simple fact is that those people who have been caught and convicted for committing a criminal act will pay in the future for what they have done in the past. Why do criminals think they should get a "front of the line pass" in life. Not from me.
11 posted on 04/12/2011 11:18:11 AM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: clintonh8r

He’s also one of Holder’s “people”.


12 posted on 04/12/2011 11:24:16 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Just making it easy for Obama voters to find work, Now to make them work and Think!!


13 posted on 04/12/2011 11:26:55 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: PittsburghAfterDark

Well... I think ex-cons will fit right in with the city government of Pittburgh


14 posted on 04/12/2011 11:30:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Diogenesis
Will rapists run transit at night?

Already gotcha covered. With the recent transit cuts here you can't find a bus after 6 o'clock....
15 posted on 04/12/2011 12:09:25 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: PittsburghAfterDark
I really don't know what to say. I'm sure this is "well intentioned". I'm sure it has nothing to do with getting more criminals hired by the City of Pittsburgh.

Ricky probably has a son about to be released from "public housing" and wants to give the son and opportunity in city gummint.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 12:21:59 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: oldenuff2no

“There are many unemployed people out there for every available job today. Why should we hide or camouflage a criminal or his record from a perspective employer.”

That’s fine then. When they go back and commit more crimes because they can’t feed themselves, much less their families, don’t blame it all on them, because it won’t be totally their fault.

I never said they should get a “front of the line pass” either, but if they have no line at all to stand in, what do you expect them to do?

So much for this being a country where a person can get a second chance...


17 posted on 04/12/2011 12:54:20 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke
Two words, Individual responsibility.
That is a hard concept for liberals. If they do the crime then they are a criminal. The state locks them up and they do time. It isn't voluntary, they have no choice in the matter. Their freedom is taken away but that is no measure of lessons learned or a change in attitude or differing future actions. Restitution for their crimes is almost never forthcoming.
When these criminals get out of prison they are usually not reformed just released. They have not earned anything because they have not voluntarily done anything to be able to earn anything. They have not earned the respect of law abiding people. They have not earned the right to be considered for employment ahead of any law abiding respectable person. They have earned nothing, they have just been released.
The person that they stole from is still without their property. The person that they were violent to still has to deal with those memories and or injuries. The person that they raped is still a rape victim. So you will probably need to explain to many of us how it is suddenly supposed to be all over for the scum that committed these crimes just because they have been released. It is not over for their victims so why in the hell should it be over for them????
I will not shop or do business with anyone who has ex cons working for them. I am up front about it too and spread the word about the situation.
It is a tough world and when a person makes it tougher by committing a crime it is their own fault and there is going to be a price to pay even after they are released. We can only hope that their next victim is legally armed and knows how to use it so that the cycle can be broken.
18 posted on 04/13/2011 7:48:22 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: oldenuff2no

So...if a person gets busted for smoking pot 20 years ago, that should be held against them for the rest of their lives? I would consider that cruel and unusual punishment.
There is also the matter of the class of people in this country who are above the law a.k.a. the very rich/politicians/law enforcement officers, ya know, the ones who rarely get charged for breaking the law, and even if they do, are even more rarely convicted of anything.

I’m Conservative too, but I’m also human. Not everyone who breaks the law is a scumbag. Prisons don’t try to rehab anyone, the punishment is the time spent behind prison walls. In my world, if a person breaks the law and gets convicted, he goes to jail for a specified period of time, but once he is released (and not on parole), then he should have all rights restored, because he has paid his debt to society. If people feel as tho criminals should have to pay more, then keep them in jail longer.

I have also been a victim of crime. I let the courts deal with it. The matter was resolved. I suppose I could still play the victim card and whine about what was done in the courts, but I don’t. I moved on. Victims of crimes can remain victims of crime if they wish, or they can live their lives.

A long time ago someone was about to be stoned to death for breaking a law, until someone suggested that the first stone should be thrown by someone who hadn’t sinned....


19 posted on 04/13/2011 9:30:33 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke
So in your world all violent felons who have done their time and are off of parole would have the right to firearms. That is part of the rights that they loose that you say you want restored. Great point of view for all the potential dead folks who cross them.
You are not conservative, you are crazy!!!!! You probably need to put a sign on your lawn that advertises a room for rent for all off parole child molesters for the room right next to your daughter's. You can live with them and I can live without them and I will be just fine. I am not now and will never be a victim. I am a legally armed citizen. God did not make all men equal, Sam Colt did. We live a long ways from the nearest cop. The last time we had trouble where shots were fired it took over 40 minutes for Law Enforcement to get here. Cops are the folks who draw the lines around the bodies when they finally show up. And people like you want to put guns back into the hands of prior violent fellons. Dude, you are totally F-ing insane. You have clearly shown yourself to be the biggest bleeding heart liberal I have ever talked to on here. I'm done with you. You really need to take a look at some conservative doctrine so you can be a little more believable next time.
20 posted on 04/13/2011 9:59:29 PM PDT by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: oldenuff2no

It’s been my experience that libs resort to emotion and personal attacks instead of debating facts. It makes me wonder....

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

As we all know, our rights come from God, not from man, so, the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The Consitution guarantees ALL citizens the right to gun ownership. :)

The Constitution is all the Conservative Doctine I need to read. :)


21 posted on 04/13/2011 10:29:56 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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