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Romney to Trump: Obama Doesn't Need a Birth Certificate
Forbes ^ | 04/12/2011 | DANIEL FREEDMAN

Posted on 04/12/2011 2:35:48 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta

According to Romney family lawyers it doesn't matter if Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or even Paris: Because his mother was an American (and not even Donald Trump questions that), he is eligible to be President....posted using frpa

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
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To: Responsibility2nd; FreeAtlanta
FGS, post a DECENT excerpt.

What is wrong with a teaser excerpt?

41 posted on 04/12/2011 2:54:00 PM PDT by EveningStar (Karl Marx is not one of our Founding Fathers.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

[This should be good. I wonder if Mitt’s Father’s Mexican connections has something to do with this. Wasn’t he a Mexican citizen? ]

The Romney clan was in Mejico so they could pursue polygamy, up through the 1920s and perhaps beyond.

42 posted on 04/12/2011 2:54:32 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on written by me!))
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To: FreeAtlanta

i used to be okay with romney. then he started to get annoying. but now he’s just really pissing me off.

43 posted on 04/12/2011 2:54:59 PM PDT by exist
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To: Radix
That a baby born in the USA despite citizenship of parents is automatically a citizen is also absurd.

It may be absurd, but it is the law, i.e., jus solis.

44 posted on 04/12/2011 2:55:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: FreeAtlanta

Whatever Romney’s other agendas, this argument (Obama is natural-born because of his mother) is exactly what the other side of any legal challenge will argue. I doubt any such case will get anywhere by 2012, but who knows. No matter the results of 2012 it will effectively be moot thereafter.

Given the composition of the Supreme Court, should this question get tried in 2012 I expect the court will back the Romney argument. And some of the conservatives, maybe even most of them, will back Obama. It won’t be close. And that will be that.

Whatever considerations and principles being bandied about here, they are only relevant as part of an argument before the Supremes, not as established law.

The best part of any case that is brought up before the Supremes (unlikely as it may be), will be when Obama will be forced to disclose all the information he has been concealing. I think the outcome would be a foregone conclusion in his favor, but the means of getting it will be embarassing.

45 posted on 04/12/2011 2:55:48 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: FreeAtlanta

46 posted on 04/12/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Piss off Romney, you greasy shyster!
47 posted on 04/12/2011 2:57:01 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Team Mitt now senses danger from a surging Donald. They must and will attack from all angles. They cannot allow Mitt to lose potential supporters to The Donald.

That Team Romney is a nasty bunch.

48 posted on 04/12/2011 2:58:17 PM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism in nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: FreeAtlanta

Mitt needs to read the immigration laws of the 1960’s which applies to Obama. One can argue that Obama’s US citizenship cannot be taken away by his parent (assuming the court’s rule one US parent is sufficient for citizenship) and Obama has till the age of 21 to reclaim if his adopted father made him an Indonesian citizen. But at that point he is reclassified as natural born to naturalized citizen (even if he is born in Hawaii). Thus Obama has two issues, place of birth and when he re entered the US to live with his grandparents did he get reclassified by the immigration laws of that time as naturalized versus natural born??? According to the laws he should have re entered as a naturalized citizen. Unfortunately all those records are sealed unless someone with standing starts a lawsuit to access it. If Trump becomes a candidate he has standing to sue and see the records and BC.
This lack of legal mechanism is dangerous because if all of the political class (GOP lack of courage, and Dems motivated by ruthless desire to win) can select foreign citizens or underaged charismatic candidates and ignore the US Constitution. Remember if one part of the Constitution can be ignored that means the ruling class can choose to ignore other parts. Before liberals celebrate, remember the sword of abuse can swing either way!!!

49 posted on 04/12/2011 2:58:36 PM PDT by Fee
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To: FreeAtlanta
Technically speaking the Romney clan were illegal aliens in Mexico ~ which is a sort of twist on the more modern situation.

Still, the Romney family lawyer is WRONG.

That's because if we accept that Barak Obama Sr. was the baby daddy, and if he were born in Kenya, then his mother hadn't been a resident of the United States "after the age of 14" to qualify to confer young Barak with citizenship.

That was the 1961 law.

At the same time if Obama's baby daddy was actually Stanley Lee's father, then he's a "natural born citizen" ~ that being the state of the law in 1961.

Men and women were treated differently under the law back then.

Still, if he were born in Canada, there are other permutations on the theme, and if he were born in Washington State rather than Hawaii, we need to know the name of the doctor!

So many riddles; so many enigmas; such a puzzle!

50 posted on 04/12/2011 2:59:41 PM PDT by muawiyah (Make America Safe For Amercans)
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To: FreeAtlanta


51 posted on 04/12/2011 3:00:02 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: FreeAtlanta
Because his mother was an American

This means the Adolph's offspring are eligible!

If the Father doesn't matter, that is, if the definition of is is is!

Crawl back under the porch Mutt!

52 posted on 04/12/2011 3:02:32 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: FreeAtlanta


53 posted on 04/12/2011 3:03:21 PM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: FreeAtlanta
The Romney lawyers investigated this question in the 1960s, when Mitt Romney’s father, Governor George Romney of Michigan, was vying for the Republican presidential nomination. George Romney had been born in a Mormon colony in Chihuahua, Mexico, as his grandfather moved there with his wives in the 1880s after polygamy was outlawed in the U.S.

Now I see.

54 posted on 04/12/2011 3:03:28 PM PDT by McGruff (Got Birth Certificate?)
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To: FreeAtlanta; All
Connect the DOTS, FReepers

The author is Daniel Freedman
"director of strategy and policy analysis
at The Soufan Group."

Ali Soufan ,CEO of the Soufan Group, is at the FBI
helping Holder, "interrogated senior members of Al-Qa’ida,
and objected to the use of the abusive tactics authorized in the OLC memos."

"The Soufan Group/Office $300 10/09/2008 OBAMA FOR AMERICA - Democrat"

55 posted on 04/12/2011 3:03:51 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: HighWheeler

Romney’s lawyers who told him this are probably the same team that advised him there was nothing he could do about gay marriages.

56 posted on 04/12/2011 3:04:47 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: McGruff

Fascinating. Followers to these folks were recently attacked by a cartel outside of Chihuahua. A Mormon leader was slain in front of his home. Romney could be the President who makes northern Mexico a prime operational outpost for the military. He’s got the history for it. And we are definitely making the moral case these last few years.

57 posted on 04/12/2011 3:06:37 PM PDT by kinghorse
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To: FreeAtlanta
Constitution? Laws?

We don' need no steenkin' constitution!

And we don' need no steenkin' laws!

58 posted on 04/12/2011 3:07:21 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: FreeAtlanta

And his father was a British subject (and a communist) so he’s NOT a natural born citizen, has dual citizenship and does not bear absolute allegiance to the U.S. per our founding fathers, and is EXACTLY what they feared. And he demonstratively proves daily that he bears no allegiance whatsoever to the U.S. Constitution.

59 posted on 04/12/2011 3:08:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Sporke
Oh we have ONE Republican who isn’t a total asshat? Just ONE!!!!

Personally I think Allen West is our only hope.

West is an asshat, too.



Rep. Allen West to birthers: focus on Obama policies instead

Post on Politics

by George Bennett | February 23rd, 2011

West speaks to a crowd of about 400 at Tuesday night's town hall meeting in Jupiter.

JUPITER — Toward the end of a 90-minute audience Q&A session at Tuesday night’s town hall meeting, U.S. Rep. Allen West, R-Plantation, was asked by former Indian Trail Improvement District board member Christopher Karch whether President Obama is “legally there or not.”

“Who is going to tell us who this man is? Is he legally there or not?” said Karch. “What are we going to do to ensure that, if he isn’t legally there, it doesn’t happen again?”

Said West: “I will tell you this: That is the dog chasing its tail. The most important thing is, it’s the policies. That’s what we have to be standing on.”

The crowd of about 400 applauded, but Karch wasn’t satisfied.

“But if he’s not, it’s treason,” Karch said.

Said West: “You will waste more time worrying yourself to death about that instead of making sure that you expand the majority in the House of Representatives, you win back the U.S. Senate so that you can stand against the policies that are emanating out of the White House…

“What is your objective? Your objective is getting back to a constitutional republic principles and values. If you spend your time worrying about someone’s citizenship, you will never get to that objective.”

West didn’t offer his own opinion on Obama’s citizenship during the public forum. So PostOnPolitics asked him after the meeting.

“He is a citizen. He’s the president. I mean, that’s all I know. I am concerned about his policies,” West said.

60 posted on 04/12/2011 3:10:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The best argument against...democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter - Churchill)
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