Posted on 04/12/2011 9:32:56 PM PDT by LSUfan
Author of “The Third Terrorist,” Jayna Davis, explains the possible connection between the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and Middle Eastern terrorism.
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I am so glad that you brought this up as I have her book “The Third Terrorist” which is a book that I would highly recommend. Jayna was on the scene of the Oklahoma City bombing within minutes as she was working at an Oklahoma City television station. When she got to the scene, she talked to people who survived the blast. This books clearly points out that there was a cover-up from Washington. This is not just another cheap “conspiracy theory” book. It is very well documented containing interviews with dozens of people who knew the people involved.
Personally, I find most believable the theory that the Feds under Clintoon were running these guys, helping them plot the bombing (similar to what they were doing in Portland OR last year), and then they lost track of them and allowed the bombing to happen and have been in total cover-up mode ever since.
Anytime you hear any government official say anything, just assume it is a lie.
I never thought of it that way but it is kind of interesting that they caught up with Timothy McVeigh right away.
This is the one “conspiracy theory” that rings true to me.
I have never been convinced of the official story in this case - or in the TWA800 disaster. Something is wrong. I hope we learn the truth eventually. It will be very shocking.
The OKC / terrorist connection reminds me of the GUNWALKER / druglord situation.
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Google General Ben Partin. Watch his videos. His research into the forensics is impeccable, and this honorable man is no conspiracy “truther” nut.
"Despite the Justice Department's herculean effort to airbrush John Doe 2 from the American landscape, history has appointed Dana Rohrabacher the star witness to Terry Nichols' affirmation that the third terrorist lives. It seems the government's monolithic wall of resistance has fractured, but the crushing injustice still stands. That is, until our elected officials exercise their constitutional authority to "correct" the historical record. The American people expect it. The truth demands it.
Jayna Davis is the author of The Third Terrorist: The Middle East connection to the Oklahoma City Bombing.
If you're really interested in the truth, read "The Third Terrorist" by Jayna Davis.
Remember the feds were watching the WTC1 crew...
This thread was reposted on 9/12/2001
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/521246/posts
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMB: Who is Ramzi Yousef? And Why It Matters (1993)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing
Yousef was assisted by Iraqi bomb maker Abdul Rahman Yasin, who helped assemble the complex 1,310 pounds (590 kg) bomb, which was made of a urea nitrate main charge with aluminum, magnesium and ferric oxide particles surrounding the explosive. The charge used nitroglycerine, ammonium nitrate dynamite, smokeless powder and fuse as booster explosives.[13] Three tanks of bottled hydrogen were also placed in a circular configuration around the main charge, to enhance the fireball and afterburn of the solid metal particles.[14] The use of compressed gas cylinders in this type of attack closely resembles the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing 10 years earlier. Both of these attacks used compressed gas cylinders to create fuel-air and thermobaric bombs[15] that release more energy than conventional high explosives. According to testimony in the bomb trial, only once before the 1993 attack had the FBI recorded a bomb that used urea nitrate.[16][17]
The Ryder van used in the bombing had 295 cubic feet (8.4 m3) of space, which would hold up to 2,000 pounds (910 kg) of explosives. However, the van was not filled to capacity. Yousef used four 20 ft (6 m) long fuses, all covered in surgical tubing. Yasin calculated that the fuse would trigger the bomb in twelve minutes after he had used a cigarette lighter to light the fuse.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/669119/posts
Terry Nichols tied to ABU SAYYAF
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Sayyaf
ABU SAYYAF tied to AL QAEDA
Was the Govt involved?
Only with the cover up of islamic collusion...
And yes I believe the same is true with Flight 800...too many witnesses say they clearly saw a missle...
Pfft...I probablly have more info logged on it than she does...
*snicker*
When someone doubts Saddams footsie with terrorists...remind them of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Pak_facility
I notice some disinfo on that page that the terror training has been “debunked”...
Yet first boots on the ground confirmed the training camp...pretty big firefight there...
http://kentuckyguard.wordpress.com/2010/06/29/national-guard-heritage-series-battle-of-salman-pak/
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2003-04-07/news/18226487_1_marines-salman-pak-terror
QUOTE:
Marines attacked a suspected terror and biochemical weapons complex yesterday after learning of its location from captured pro-Iraq fighters from other countries, including Egypt and Sudan.
The camp that U.S. forces destroyed yesterday at Salman Pak has long been known to Western authorities. UN weapons inspectors even visited the site in 1995 and found a hulking Russian-built Tupolev 154 airliner that some believe was used for hijack training.
If someone tells you we didnt have a right to go into Iraq..you tell them to shove it up their yang and break it off...
We where a decade late going in...
They were hiding out in plain sight for months on end..........I guess the Keystone Kops could have lost track of them.........
8:}
Bump to your post.
WOW...stumbled on this doing some further reading...
Remember Jeffrey Schilling?
I didnt...he was a “captive” of Abu...
Want to see a clear link between libtards and terrorists?
Check this out:
http://articles.sfgate.com/2001-04-13/news/17595439_1_abu-sayyaf-ivy-osani-filipino-muslims
Quote:
What made the 25-year-old UC Berkeley and Phillips Exeter Academy graduate venture into one of the most deprived and dangerous places in the world?
His mother and closest friends say he was motivated by an intense, if sometimes naive, passion for social justice.
Social justice.
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Anytime you hear any government official say anything, just assume it is a lie.
OH come on! you're just a paranoid right-wing whacko. Next
thing I know you'll be telling me that the BATF is selling
guns to criminals and illegal aliens!
No one is more skeptical of conspiracy theories than I am. McVeigh deserved the DP, however it’s interesting how his conviction and appeals process leading to his execution were put on the fast track. Also, where were all the DP opponents? Why didn’t Susan Sarandon blather about the barbarity of such a “cruel and unusual” punishment? Was she too busy writing love letters to Mumia Abu Jamal? The day of his execution, the LSM didn’t make a big deal of it, USA Today had a small article, and not even on the front page, with a picture of about 6-7 Quakers near the prison doing a rather lackluster rendition of Jesus carrying the Cross.
This theory is proposed to whitewash Bill Clinton.
First I’ve heard of him that I recall. Sounds terminally naive.
That is absurd. Jayna Davis didn’t write her articles or book to cover for Slick Willy. What a stupid thing to say.
“This theory is proposed to whitewash Bill Clinton.”
There isnt any “theory” to anything I posted...it’s all sourced for you to check out...much of it from FR..
And I will remind you...Al Qeada (Abu sayyaf) was already at war with us:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mogadishu_(1993)
The “alex Jones” type theory is that Clinton was somehow involved either let it happen or made it happen...
Apply Occams razor for a moment...
What is more likely?
Clinton would do this just to link it to militias...
Or Clinton is a craven opportunist who would cover up mid east involvement in terror attacks to save his “legacy” of mid east peace, and at the same time blame the far right who was hounding him...a two fer...
I’ll take door #2.
nickcarraway, I presume you refer to the complete misdirection AWAY from any evidence or links to middle eastern terrorism as the whitewash, not the version of events proposed by Jayna Davis?
I first read Jayna Davis’s book “The Third Terrorist” a few years back, and it was a real eye-opener for me. It wasn’t that I discounted the government version that Timothy McVeigh was the prime shaker and mover behind the terrorist attack, it was the fact that I just never had the time to delve into it, to learn more about it.
Jayna Davis’s book has the ring of truth to it. I’m not a big conspiracy theory person, because I understand that one of the superlative “qualities” of the human mind is the propensity to look at things and find patterns in them. We all know (simply from reading Free Republic!) the conspiracy theories abound, and that the reasons for them are many. Sometimes humorous, sometimes serious, but the events that we see are fertile ground for them. That’s just the way it is.
But it is nearly impossible, no-make that completely impossible, to discount out of hand Jayna Davis’s version of events. She isn’t a wingnut, she’s not a lunatic, she’s not a conspiracy theorist. She was an investigative reporter with an established reputation in a major US city. Furthermore, upon reading the accounts from many different people, in excessive detail, one can only come to the conclusion that there was indeed a cover up.
There were things that just could not be made up, that have no other rationale. Look at the phone records of Timothy McVeigh’s partner, Terry Nichols, who made those trips to the Philippines (ostensibly to look for a mail-order bride as I recall) and the phone records that show dozens and dozens of attempted phone calls to the boarding house where Ramzi Yousef was reportedly living from a pay phone using a card purchased by the pair of “American terrorists”. (This is from memory, so my recollection may not be completely accurate… I have to read it again.) As I recall, these dozens and dozens of attempted phone calls all took place within some ridiculously short period of time, the type of thing when a panicked person is repeatedly calling a number that is not picked up.
The thing is, this book which is full of independently researched and meticulously verified information, is full of this kind of thing. What I find completely disconcerting and disturbing about all of this, is the vilification of Janet Davis as some kind of loopy conspiracy theorist out to make a buck. I am always surprised, and disappointed when the subject comes up on Free Republic, for example a thread like this, but dies out quickly due to a lack of interest. I guess it’s old news, and a lot of people either just want to move on, or find the concept of even considering that the government was less than truthful in this case just too difficult to approach.
If it is a painful and disturbing for me, I can only imagine how crushingly disillusioning the treatment of her research is by the mainstream media, and by extension of the efforts of the media and those friendly to the Clinton administration, the treatment by the rest of the country in general of her work. It must be painful indeed for her.
I challenge anyone to read Jayna Davis’s book, and finish it still believing that it was those two dumb asses Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols who blew up that building.
Several weeks ago there was a report of an ABC reporter being a MOLE for the FBI.
According to the report, a rummer was circulating in the intelligence community that Sadam Hussain had set up a terrorist cell in the US. The info made it's way to an ex CIA agent working with ABC news. This agent gave the reporter the info.
After the OKC bombing the reporter instead of just running with the unconfirmed rummer, contacted the FBI with the info. The FBI checked it out, and it turned out to be false.
What that means is, someone knew about McVeigh's and Nichole's activities far enough in advance that they could fabricate a story that would make it appear the “RIGHT WING EXTREMIST” had teamed with a foreign govt. to carry out the attack. If that was the case, the OKC bombing wouldn't have been just a criminal act, it would have been an act of war.
Amazingly, the talking points coming from the Clinton WH prior to the OKC bombing tried to make the argument that the Right Wing Extremist were trying to overthrow the govt.
Following the OKC bombing Billy had the spy satellites turned to spy on Elome(SP) City. Using spy satellites to spy on American citizens is illegal, unless they are engaged in an act of war against the US.
They didn't loose anybody.
They let it happen, and any investigation would have shown that.
You shouldn't allow Clinton to cover up his mistakes by blaming them all on Muslims.
How about some kind of documentation please....a link or article...
Jayna Davis started writing her articles within a week of the bombing and she was under a lot of pressure to drop it completely. It is utterly ridiculous to suggest that she in any way was whitewashing what happened for Bill Clinton. You need to read her book.
How about Clinton was running these guys but when he found out that they were connected to big time middle-eastern terrorists, he turned tail and ran.
It’s 2011, why are we hearing about this now? Ambrose Evans-Pritchard faced all kinds of pressure, but he published in 1997, when it was still relevant. If what you say is true, maybe Jayna Davis should be criticized for not making this information public to prevent 9/11. What’s next, she’s going to say a jihadist killed Archduke Ferdinand and started World War II?
Have you read “The Third Terrorist”?
I ask, because if we compare a book by a foreign journalist, far removed, who covers all unsavory aspects of the Clintons from sexual peccadillos to FBI coverups and might devote a few chapters at the most to the Oklahoma City bombing, to an exhaustively researched, devoted to the sole subject book by a well known native to the town where the bombing occurred that was researched doggedly over the course of several years, I cannot see where it can carry the same weight.
That said, I will read it nonetheless per your suggestion, but I do take issue with your suggestion that I am somehow taking Clinton at his word about something.
If I were taking Clinton at his word, it would be that white right wingers were the sole perpetrators of the OK city bombing, not muslims using disenchanted right wing patsies as their proxies.
The first flag came for me when television accounts shifted from looking for 'John Does' to Clinton apologizing to CAIR...
Next, when I realized McVeigh had had a loaded 9mm on the seat when pulled over in a vehicle without license plates while 'fleeing' the scene. After blowing up a building full of men, women, and children, why didn't he just shoot the police officer?
The more I looked, the more inconsistencies there were in the case: Unusual blast damage
missing security video
alleged warnings to personnel from certain agencies to not come in to work
accounts of recovery of additional devices
The list kept growing, including the involvement of Carol Howe (attempted warnings) and Andreas Strassmeier through the Elohim CIty group.
At best, the story the media fed us was grossly 'sanitized' and scrubbed of Islamic connections, at worst a complete fabrication.
Considering it was extroadinarily beneficial to the Clintons to have the entire bombing be:
the result of domestic and not foreign activity
something which could be used to stall the building consensus that the Assault Weapons Ban should be repealed
and somehow a means to quash the fervor which was building to have a serious investigation into what the Government did and why they did it at Waco.
Well, they succeeded. The meme was shifted to brand Constitution reading, Bible believing, gun owning down home folks as domestic terrorists, and continued to the point that Flight 800 was blamed on unlikely electrical problems rather than heed or even seek the testimony of over 200 people who 'saw something go up toward the plane' before the fireball.
Rather than being held to account for the various misfeasances wrought by the deflection of blame onto political opponents, the tactic has become so commonplace that it is routine, regardless of the ill involved, and the entire 'bitter clinger' meme has been incorporated in policy.
This has increasingly left the United States vulnerable to terrorist acts from the people who have been carrying them out: Radical Islamists.
How about Clinton was running these guys but when he found out that they were connected to big time middle-eastern terrorists, he turned tail and ran.
Nah, couldn’t be.
nickgotcarriedaway.
a widdle bit
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