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Politico Trashes Trump As 'Silly-Season' Candidate--But Halperin Surprisingly Respectful
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 04/13/2011 5:18:25 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Today's Morning Joe offered an interesting contrast of MSM takes on Donald Trump. Politico honcho John Harris offered the conventional Beltway wisdom, writing off Trump as a "silly season" candidate who adds only entertainment and amusement value to the race.

Meanwhile, Mark Halperin was surprisingly respectful of The Donald. Halperin opined that beyond the birther issue, Trump was doing a lot of smart things that other candidates should study. Among them, Trump is the only candidate, according to Halperin, willing to "get in Barack Obama's face."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: barackobama; donaldtrump; johnharris; markhalperin; politicoisgay; trump

1 posted on 04/13/2011 5:18:34 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Looks like the Mittens is bleeding to Trump. Almost a flip.


2 posted on 04/13/2011 5:21:43 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Trump: serious or silly-season candidate? Two takes from Morning Joe. Halperin surprisingly respectful, says Trump only candidate willing to get in Obama’s face. Ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 5:22:58 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
My lady hasn't issued many public statements recently, yet remains right in the middle of the pack.

If Sarah decides to run, when she formally announces there will be a sea change in the numbers.


4 posted on 04/13/2011 5:24:10 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Pollutico (PR-Reps to any DNC criminal or RINO)
has two goals:

1) Protect the Kenyan King at all costs.
2) Then help Chihuahua Milt Romney.


5 posted on 04/13/2011 5:25:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I've noticed this word "serious" all over the place. I believe the word has been focus-group tested and is believed to be a winning buzz-word.

As you read/watch/listen to the news, pay attention to how often you hear the word "serious." Someone will say they are taking very "seriously" whether to run. A budget proposal will be praised as "serious." Opponents will be criticized as "not serious." Serious, serious, serious.

I imagine there are firms who supply such information to professional talkers, and that they've all started using the word "serious" in their appearances.

Watch and see if you find the same thing. I'm serious.

6 posted on 04/13/2011 5:26:52 AM PDT by Huck (This running things, kid. It ain't all gravy.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’ve been sleeping on this Trump thing and realized something. Trump is a big money supporter of the democrats. Could it be the democrats see the writing on the wall that zero isn’t going to fly in 2012 and have selected Trump as his replacement.

I Just Don’t know which wy to go.


7 posted on 04/13/2011 5:32:06 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“Silly season”—isn’t that in August, when all of Washington gets all “wee-wee’d up”? LOL.


8 posted on 04/13/2011 5:32:37 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (To paraphrase Sarah Palin: I love when the liberals get all wee wee'd up.)
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To: USS Alaska

Man I’d like to see Huckabee, Gingrich and Romney go away. Then the only people with balls — Trump, Palin and Bachman — could try to work something out between them, some kind of united front.


9 posted on 04/13/2011 5:39:14 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Interesting because Halperin is editor-at-large and senior political analyst for TIME magazine.


10 posted on 04/13/2011 5:40:29 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies
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To: USS Alaska
-"If Sarah decides to run, when she formally announces there will be a sea change in the numbers."

I agree. Currently, it's now just a 'popularity contest'. Once, the real players put on the 'official' gloves, it becomes a 'real game', and you will definitely see a whole new scoring game.

11 posted on 04/13/2011 5:43:04 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: Diogenesis
Pollutico (PR-Reps to any DNC criminal or RINO) has two goals:

1) Protect the Kenyan King at all costs.
2) Then help Chihuahua Milt Romney.

Wow. Now that's good. That's really good. I've been searching for what to call Obama since early 2008 and you have hit on the perfect moniker: The Kenyan King. It is so descriptive and so true. Thanks.

Chihuahua Milt Romney still needs some work. Doesn't quite have the pizzaz that "The Kenyan King" has. I think the problem is that simultaneously comparing Romney to an annoying yapping little dog and "the seminal fluid produced by male fish" is too respectful of this worthless POS. Especially the Milt part. Implying that he has anything even remotely resembling balls gives him far, far too much credit.

Anyway, keep up the good work, and long live The Kenyan King!

12 posted on 04/13/2011 5:45:01 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: chainsaw
I Just don’t know which way to go.

I love the Birther stuff coming from Trump. He is doing a real service there. But as soon as he brought up the possibility, if not the likelihood, of running as a Third Party if he loses the GOP nomination I'm beginning to write him off. Third Party Trump equals easy Obama win and you don't have to be genius to know that. Even Trump would understand that.

I believe Perot cut deals with Clinton to get him elected. History could be repeating itself here. Watch this carefully while we enjoy the Birth Certificate Circus and hope that something will come of it.

13 posted on 04/13/2011 5:45:58 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Diogenesis
Pollutico (PR-Reps to any DNC criminal or RINO) has two goals:

1) Protect the Kenyan King at all costs. 2) Then help Chihuahua Milt Romney.

Supporting goal #2 will effectively ensure goal #1 comes to fruition.

14 posted on 04/13/2011 5:46:27 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: samtheman

The media knows that they can push Huckabee and Romney as valid candidates and gullible people will think it’s true because the media says so.

Right now Trump is one of the only people on the attack standing up for Americans. He hasn’t declared that he’s running yet. So in the meantime, we could at least support Trump staying on TV telling the truth about how America can be a better place and regain it’s #1 status in the world.

Trump’s is a businessman not a career politician. I don’t know about you, but I’m tired of listening to the same old politician BS year after year. It’s nice to have a newcomer on the scene calling it like it is.


15 posted on 04/13/2011 5:47:41 AM PDT by jq2
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To: jq2

Well said.


16 posted on 04/13/2011 5:49:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: chainsaw
I like what Trump has done in the past few weeks, but don't trust him at all.

He has too many past relations with democrat heavyweights, too many expressions of liberal belief in the past, and too many conveniently recent ideological changes in his "conservative" creds.

I still like what he's been doing though. It's refreshing.

17 posted on 04/13/2011 5:50:14 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: chainsaw

Trump is a Democrat posing as a Republican. His admission that he will run as a 3rd Party Republican alternative candidate gives him away. If he wanted to beat Øbama, he could effectively get two shots at him. He would run against him in the Democratic Primary and should he fail in the primary, ensure his defeat in the general election by running as a Democrat alternative. The fact that he will run as a 3rd party Republican alternative will simply be so that he can siphon off enough Republican votes to ensure four more years of Øbama.

This man should not be considered for the Presidency by any conservative based on one issue. At best, he should be looked at as the modern day Woodward/Bernstein if he is to be taken seriously at all. They took down a President, but I don’t think anyone looked at either of them as someone to take his place as President.

He’s one of the best at selling snake oil. Unfortunately, there seems to be a large market for it these days.


18 posted on 04/13/2011 5:51:36 AM PDT by curth (Organize4Palin.com - NOW IS THE TIME)
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To: jq2

I would much prefer Palin or Bachmann to Trump. But for either of them to get to the top would take a long harrowing climb up vertical cliff faces of media antagonism and campaign funding disparities. Trump can rocket up to the top, which would be nice to see, but then the question would be, of course, what do WE have when he gets there?


19 posted on 04/13/2011 5:52:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

A Democrat for President. Again.


20 posted on 04/13/2011 5:55:18 AM PDT by curth (Organize4Palin.com - NOW IS THE TIME)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The Trump approach is what has him at the top. The BC issue was confirmation to many that he wouldn’t take the “Obama, is so intelligent and well liked” approach. There is no timidity or fear of being called a racist with Trump.

If the O admin or the MSM accuse him of that, he goes right at them and it sets them back on their heels.

He will go on their shows(this is key) and tell them Obama stinks and is ruining the country right to their faces. And he doesn’t shut up when they butt in, he keeps on talking. That is what has the WH and MSM in a big tizzy.

After the last 10 years of Republicans being so darn nice and respectful when discussing these communists, the people on our side have had it. Acting like communism within the democrat party is merely a little policy matter is infuriating to a free people who need real American leaders to take it to them, expose them, and get rid of their treachery.

If Republican politicians can’t do it, or won’t do it, someone will have to before it is too late.

The GOP field excites very few. There is no real frontrunner. If Romney thinks he is the man, he best think again. We haven’t heard from him in months. What is the first thing he does? Gives Obama a pass on the BC issue. What a loser.

I am not sure of Trump or his motives, but his approach is a winner.


21 posted on 04/13/2011 5:59:18 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Huck

We at FR have WFTD-Word For The Day-and they have WFTWeek-you’re right and BO’s people started it when they said that they weren’t “serious” about their budget suggestions-or whatever you want to call it.

They are trying to make the GOP people out to be “silly”-like children and they now want to be the serious “adults” (this from the 60’s hippies!)
They want the masses to picture them hard at work, nose to the grindstone, sleeves rolled up, working hard for ‘us’ and the ‘other’ side just plain incapable, “silly” and stupid (especially the women ie Sarah)...

When you can think of NO other word to describe someone you disagree with and end up using the word “silly” vs “serious”, it really tells you how STUPID they think we are..BUT a lot more people are on to them now since Wisconsin, which was awesome free advertising for Conservatives. Now that WAS series and hugh!!!

We should start a “Demon-Word of The Week” at FR...could be hugh!


22 posted on 04/13/2011 6:00:22 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly
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To: nhwingut

Mitt is tied with Gingrich. He should save his money and bow out now.


23 posted on 04/13/2011 6:01:04 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: samtheman
Man I’d like to see Huckabee, Gingrich and Romney go away. Then the only people with balls — Trump, Palin and Bachman — could try to work something out between them, some kind of united front.

AMEN!

Trump is interesting because he's the rare bird who will say what he thinks and feels and can get away with it. He doesn't worry about offending people, spinning or disagreement. You don't feel the instinct to decipher what he's saying versus what he really believes, which is refreshing.

I'm not convinced he should run, but I DO hope he keeps this up. He's getting a lot of sleeping voter attention and pointing things out normal talking heads won't.

24 posted on 04/13/2011 6:02:52 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Mark, I disagree with you about Halperin being respectful of Trump. I heard Halperin state that Trump bringing up Obama’s birth location was despicable. Calling his actions despicable is being disrespectful. The MSM is trying to marginalize Trump by calling him despicable since they can’ t call him crazy.

I always enjoy your posts from monitoring the dark side. Keep up the good work.


25 posted on 04/13/2011 6:05:57 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: indylindy

“What is the first thing he does? Gives Obama a pass on the BC issue. What a loser.”

Wait, wait..Mitt for brains will come out in the next few and say he was always for finding out the truth behind Obamas BC.


26 posted on 04/13/2011 6:07:53 AM PDT by crz
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To: crz

Yeh *snort* he probably will.


27 posted on 04/13/2011 6:13:05 AM PDT by dforest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Politico is a gay dating website...


28 posted on 04/13/2011 6:18:08 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (Arjuna, why have you have dropped your bow???)
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To: jq2

When people lose jobs, see good jobs go overseas and know that their own jobs could also go overseas and nobody in the GOP will do anything about it except tell them that is the price of free trade and too much gov regulations. Well when companies with record profits are doing that, hard to tell workers that it was caused by taxes and gov regs. Workers know that it is caused by CEO’s who don’t care about the US except profits from foreign cheap labor and dump unemployment onto the rest of the working American taxpayers. If we had the lowest tax rate and little regulations the corporations will stay if Americans are willing to work at Chinese or Mexican wages, otherwise they still leave. Who is fooling who? When gov tell people they have no money to spare (which is true) but willing to borrow for overseas wars and bailout for failed banks and corporations, workers in America know something is wrong. The Dems do not offer solutions except more taxes and spending, but GOP offers nothing major except trust free trade and corporate CEO’s to do the right thing for America. Workers basically say no thanks to such thinking. Trump is the only GOP candidate that offers America First a concept that is fitting with today’s time. Workers of the US finally figured out that the Dems and the run of the mill GOP candidates failed to take care of America first and placed their trust in the wrong institutions and business models that allowed the banks and Wall Street to make tons of money while impoverishing Main Street America or worst destroyed middle class/working class America with wild boom and busts as well as hire and fire employment cycles that get shorter and more wild. In the end (after 20 years of this global free for all) working Americans have wage stagnation, saber tooth career paths/salary patterns and worst little or no prospects of a pension that they paid into (401k and Soc Sec are busted). Trump is the first to deal with who is taking care of Main Street Americans (he sees as the main engine of social stability and prosperity) and the interest of the United States as a great power (and not multi national corporations or the aspiration of leftist socialists). The media is wrong, Trump can win the primary and win the election because these are different times where past conventional wisdoms do not apply.


29 posted on 04/13/2011 6:25:39 AM PDT by Fee
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Halperin was also the first person on Morning Smoe to declare the Republican takeover of the house with a 60 seat gain.

At that point in time even Scarborough was incredulous at his prediction.


30 posted on 04/13/2011 6:27:46 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: InterceptPoint
The difference is Perot attacked Bush not Clinton.

Had to believe Obama is cutting a deal with Trump to call him the worst President in his lifetime.

31 posted on 04/13/2011 6:31:51 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: CaptainK
The difference is Perot attacked Bush not Clinton. Hard to believe Obama is cutting a deal with Trump to call him the worst President in his lifetime.

Yes that is a stretch but think about how you go about getting a viable 3rd Party candidate who will pull votes from the GOP and not just across the board. Many Republicans were fooled by the Perot candidacy and they will not easily fall for the trick again. They will need real meat and the BC issue is that real meat. If Trump promises to open the Obama records if elected as a Third Party Candidate and do some of the other rather foolish foreign policy moves he is advertising he could easily pull enough votes out of the GOP ranks to elect Obama.

What's the payoff for Trump? Publicity and some secret handshake with Obama who will leave office as a future billionaire himself.

Just speculation based on the Trump 3rd Party comment. Don't read too much into it.

32 posted on 04/13/2011 6:42:21 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: Fee

Fee those are good comments. Good point on Trump’s “America First” policy.

Trump is standing up for America as a country and his actions (not just words) represent the America First policy. To illustrate, here’s a quote from Trump’s book “The Art of the Deal”. This is from 1987:

“My favorite reaction to the world’s tallest building came from columnist George Will. I’ve always liked Will, in part because he’s not afraid to challenge fashion, “Donald Trump is not being reasonable,” Will wrote. “But, then, man does not live by reason alone, fortunately. Trump, who believes that excess can be a virtue, is as American as Manhattan’s skyline, which expresses the Republic’s erupting energies. He says the superskyscraper is necessary because it is unnecessary. He believes architectural exuberance is good for us [and] he may have a point. Brashness, zest and elan are part of this country’s character.”


33 posted on 04/13/2011 6:46:10 AM PDT by jq2
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To: CT Hillbilly
I see people on all sides using it. It is apparantly a competition to convince voters of who is more serious. Watch Trump's interview with Viera. He says serious about 10 times in the first 30 seconds. It's not an accident. It's a keyword.

PS-I'm on the word of the day ping list. I quite enjoy it and recommend it.

34 posted on 04/13/2011 7:03:10 AM PDT by Huck (This running things, kid. It ain't all gravy.)
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To: freedom1st

It’s true that Halperin disparaged Trump’s birtherism, though he called it “deplorable,” somewhat less strong than “despicable.” But overall, I do believe his comments were respectful and even admiring of Trump’s tactics, calling them smart, and something other candidates should study.


35 posted on 04/13/2011 7:05:11 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

You’re right, Halperin did say deplorable. I think Scarborough or one of the other clowns called his actions despicable.


36 posted on 04/13/2011 7:18:04 AM PDT by freedom1st
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Transcript from Rush Limbaugh:

RUSH: "Okay, gonna try to get Trump on one day this week. We should be able to do that. Actually, you know, I think Trump might actually be the real illegal alien here. I mean, you say what you will, but he is once again actually doing a job that most Americans wouldn't touch. He fits the bill in that regard."

END TRANSCRIPT


37 posted on 04/13/2011 11:02:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: curth; InterceptPoint; Lakeshark

I’m relieved that I’m not the only one that doesn’t trust Trump. But, like you, I enjoy what he is doing right now, and hope he succeeds.


40 posted on 04/14/2011 5:34:14 AM PDT by chainsaw
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