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Cometh the Hour, Punteth the Man ... Mark Steyn
The Corner ^ | 13 Apr 2011 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/14/2011 5:19:21 AM PDT by Rummyfan

There’s something sad about a man so carelessly revealing himself as entirely inadequate to the moment. Government spending is an existential threat to the United States. Whether or not anyone at the White House knows this, the viziers decided to shove the sultan out on stage with a pitifully unserious speech retreating to all his lamest tropes – the usual whiny, petty and unpresidential partisan snippiness, and the ponderous demolition of straw men even he barely bothered to pretend he believed in:

Politicians are often eager to feed the impression that solving the problem is just a matter of eliminating waste and abuse –that tackling the deficit issue won’t require tough choices.

Yeah, right. Why don’t we start by eliminating whatever dope got paid to write that sentence?

This speech failed Rich’s “What’s yours?” test. In fact, it more or less declared to the world that this Administration has no plan, and has no plan to plan on getting a plan anytime soon. But America is not Greece. There is no Germany to bail us out. Only we can do it. And the President just signaled to the world that that’s not going to happen. Here’s one example of his and his speechwriters’ hideous laziness:

If there are bright young Americans who have the drive and the will but not the money to go to college, we can’t afford to send them… South Korean children are outpacing our kids in math and science.

That last bit is true – but it’s nothing to do with money. According to the most recent OECD figures (2007), the Koreans spent $5,437 per primary-school pupil; we spent $10,229. For education as a whole, the Koreans spent $7,325 per pupil; we spent $14,269. They not only “outpace our kids in math and science”; they do it by only spending half as much.

That’s the problem, and whichever hack speechwriter put those ridiculous words in the President’s mouth surely knew it. As did the President. We spend more than anyone but the Swiss on education, and by any rational measure at least half of it is entirely wasted: That model is why this country is dying, and the President just went on TV and bragged to the world he has no plans to change it.

The whole speech was like that, a litany of brain-dead slapdash rhetorical questions that for sentient beings are no longer rhetorical: My fellow Americans, do we want an America where our most lethargic and mediocre youth are denied a leisurely half-decade acquiring a fraudulent six-figure credential in some worthless pseudo-discipline simply because we can’t afford it?

Well, it’d be a start.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cost; debt; deficit; education; korea; marksteyn; price; soko; steyn

1 posted on 04/14/2011 5:19:25 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn Bump.

He nails it here.


2 posted on 04/14/2011 5:23:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Rummyfan

Priceless. Thanks for posting.


3 posted on 04/14/2011 5:24:35 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: tet68

I agree, he hits it out of the park and with a two minute comment to boot.


4 posted on 04/14/2011 5:25:59 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: Rummyfan

With THIS ‘President’, America did not scrape the bottom of the barrel. We lifted the barrel and scraped underneath!!


5 posted on 04/14/2011 5:27:15 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Rummyfan
According to the most recent OECD figures (2007), the Koreans spent $5,437 per primary-school pupil; we spent $10,229. For education as a whole, the Koreans spent $7,325 per pupil; we spent $14,269. They not only “outpace our kids in math and science”; they do it by only spending half as much

Herein lies the real problem, teachers unions getting too much money for shoddy performance all the while protecting the shittiest amongst them.

6 posted on 04/14/2011 5:28:04 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: Rummyfan

Absolutely priceless! Thanks!


7 posted on 04/14/2011 5:29:21 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn is an International treasure. Thanks for posting.


8 posted on 04/14/2011 5:30:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Rummyfan
My fellow Americans, do we want an America where our most lethargic and mediocre youth are denied a leisurely half-decade acquiring a fraudulent six-figure credential in some worthless pseudo-discipline simply because we can’t afford it?

The best description of the current state of college education I've heard. Awesome.

9 posted on 04/14/2011 5:32:07 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: tet68

Trump/Steyn 2012


10 posted on 04/14/2011 5:38:00 AM PDT by bella1 (Leaning Towards Trump)
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To: Rummyfan

Democrats ought to thank their lucky... whatever they thank... that they’d never have to face Mark Steyn in a Presidential debate.


11 posted on 04/14/2011 5:40:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Rummyfan
You say we have no money and must stop eating tenderloin steak. To which I say, can we afford not to eat tenderloin steak? Are we to confine ourselves to a steady diet of rice and beans?
12 posted on 04/14/2011 5:41:58 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Rummyfan
That’s the problem, and whichever hack speechwriter put those ridiculous words in the President’s mouth surely knew it. As did the President.

Mark gives them too much credit. I doubt the writers care to do a fact check, an Obama just reads what's on the prompter. Chance the Gardner.

13 posted on 04/14/2011 5:42:01 AM PDT by PogySailor (The ruling class will not go down easily. And neither will their paid hacks.)
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To: Rummyfan

It’s a mess alright.

When we tested at Sylvan learning center, it became apparent that my child’s teacher skipped fractions in 4th grade, decimals, too. This had to be taught 2 years later at the learning center at great expense. The learning center wasn’t hurting for students, either.


14 posted on 04/14/2011 5:42:28 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SMARTY
We lifted the barrel and scraped underneath!!

We lifted the barrel, dug to China, and filled the hole with IOUs.

15 posted on 04/14/2011 5:42:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Rummyfan

Steyn. Brilliant...as... always!


16 posted on 04/14/2011 5:48:49 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: ScottinVA

I stand corrected.

(BTW, have you ever seen the muck undernerath a barrel?)


17 posted on 04/14/2011 5:55:19 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: USS Alaska

The problem with American education is the same as the problem with Soviet agriculture: It’s a producer controlled monopoly that demands ever greater inputs and returns ever fewer and shoddier outputs.


18 posted on 04/14/2011 5:58:02 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: ALPAPilot

I wish I could compress that sentiment to a tagline.


19 posted on 04/14/2011 5:59:37 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Rummyfan

This is brilliant... but the saddest part is that it’s true. Yes, we’ve gone under the barrel for this idiot (and they call President Bush dumb?) but how do we, and can we, dig ourselves out?


20 posted on 04/14/2011 6:04:13 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: Rummyfan

———We spend more than anyone but the Swiss on education———

No, we don’t. We don’t spend federal money on education, we spend federal money on educators.


21 posted on 04/14/2011 6:09:14 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I wish I could compress that sentiment to a tagline.

Posted this on the Rush Thread yesterday during the speech (which I am still amazed my ears lasted as long as they did):

Summary of Obama's speech so far (about 20 min in):

"A big shout out to all you in the crowd!! America Sucks!! Thank you very much and good night!!"

22 posted on 04/14/2011 6:11:32 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Let me be clear.............")
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To: Rummyfan

I love Mark Steyn just for creating the word Punteth


23 posted on 04/14/2011 6:13:20 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: bert
No, we don’t. We don’t spend federal money on education, we spend federal money on educators.

Worse yet, we spend even more on "School Administrators".
24 posted on 04/14/2011 6:13:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty ("Let me be clear.............")
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To: Rummyfan

The usual Steyn brilliance....


25 posted on 04/14/2011 6:16:07 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Palin in 2012)
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To: Rummyfan

For the little it’s worth, I heard a usually left-leaning morning radio show host bashing Obama on his raise-taxes on the rich proposal. He and his crew agreed the bloom was off the rose.


26 posted on 04/14/2011 6:33:05 AM PDT by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I wish I could compress that sentiment to a tagline.

The best I could come up with while I'm drinking my coffee this morning...

27 posted on 04/14/2011 6:41:04 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A mediocre lethargic youth, misspent for a fake 6-figure credential in a worthless pseudo-discipline)
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To: bert
No, we don’t. We don’t spend federal money on education, we spend federal money on educators.

Sadly, we spend most of it on more bureaucrats.

28 posted on 04/14/2011 6:42:47 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (A mediocre lethargic youth, misspent for a fake 6-figure credential in a worthless pseudo-discipline)
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To: Rummyfan
we spent $14,269.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

In my state there are NO private day schools that have a tuition that high. Even the **most** exclusive private schools with all the country clubs amenities do no charge that much.

When looking at the budget, on every level, ( federal, state, and local), we must find new ways of educating our young people.

1) Get the federal government completely out of the education business in every manner from kindergarten to providing research grants on the graduate school level.

2) Allow any child of any age to take the GED or similar private exam. If he passes give him an official diploma from his local high school. This opens up opportunities for him in the military and for scholarships in post high school education. The fewer children in school, the fewer teachers and buildings that are needed.

3) Charles Murray is right! We needed competency exams to prove mastery of specific subjects. We do NOT necessarily need kids in college! The information and lectures could be available on-line. The on-line lectures and material could be **free** if it included advertising. Even in the professions such as medicine, dentistry, law, nursing, etc., a great deal of the information could be provided **free** on-line.

4) Competency exams could even been used from first grade onward. If a child masters a subject, as proven by a competency exam, he should be promoted to the next level in that specific subject. Again, much of the material and lectures could be on-line for free. The sooner a child finishes , the sooner he can get on with his career and life, and fewer teachers, and buildings would be needed.

29 posted on 04/14/2011 6:52:42 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: SMARTY

This man has a wonderful way with words. Thanks for the posting.


30 posted on 04/14/2011 7:08:52 AM PDT by notomarx
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To: Rummyfan

bump


31 posted on 04/14/2011 7:22:40 AM PDT by Christian4Bush (Public Service Announcement. As of 4/14/11, 572 days 'til we take out the trash. (November 6 2012))
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To: yldstrk
When we tested at Sylvan learning center, it became apparent that my child’s teacher skipped fractions in 4th grade, decimals, too.

But that's all there IS to 4th-grade math. What did she teach if not those?

32 posted on 04/14/2011 7:30:06 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Rummyfan
Every year the Education Establishment announces our education system had "bad weather" and has failed to meet it's assigned quotas.

Next year will be different, Comrade, if we just throw more money at it!

33 posted on 04/14/2011 7:31:34 AM PDT by Gritty (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: SMARTY
(BTW, have you ever seen the muck undernerath a barrel?)

Why, yes I have!

In addition to the muddy muck, we find:

Slugs,

Sow bugs,

Ants,

Centipedes,

Earthworms,

Spiders,

and far more vile creatures, such as...

This.


34 posted on 04/14/2011 8:13:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: nina0113
But that's all there IS to 4th-grade math. What did she teach if not those?

"Multicultural Math: 1+1=Two mommies."

35 posted on 04/14/2011 8:15:25 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Rummyfan; governsleastgovernsbest
[B.O. said]:If there are bright young Americans who have the drive and the will but not the money to go to college, we can’t afford to send them… South Korean children are outpacing our kids in math and science.

[Steyn responded:]That last bit is true – but it’s nothing to do with money. According to the most recent OECD figures (2007), the Koreans spent $5,437 per primary-school pupil; we spent $10,229. For education as a whole, the Koreans spent $7,325 per pupil; we spent $14,269. They not only “outpace our kids in math and science”; they do it by only spending half as much.

WHAT A TESTIMONY TO THE JOKE OF TODAY'S LAMESTREAM MEDIA! NO ONE CAUGHT ONTO THIS EXCEPT STEYN?? OR DID NO ONE ELSE BOTHER TO FACT CHECK BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?

Today, the networks are too busy hugging Obama, becoming spokespersons for the regime (see Linda Douglass and Jay Carney), and drooling over Michelle Obama's friendliness with Beyonce....

36 posted on 04/14/2011 8:20:14 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Rummyfan
King 0 and his know-nothing party have declared that there will be no attempt to reform the welfare state, even though it's no longer affordable, even if it bankrupts the country. They would rather destroy the fabric of the nation, than attempt to mend it, because they are ideologically wedded to the notion that big government is a kind of metaphysical good and their defense of it a proof of their goodness. And this despite all the evidence pointing to the misery they will cause.

There can be no reasoning with these people. There can only be defeating them.

37 posted on 04/14/2011 10:21:00 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Rummyfan; JLS

bump & a Steyn ping

Those costs per pupil are probably true. NYC was paying $10k per pupil over a decade ago. I saw it in the supposed “paper of record.” The NYC public schools were getting $11 billion for 1.1 million students.


38 posted on 04/14/2011 10:48:20 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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