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Open Question: Will we ever wrest control from the establishment Boehner/Rove/Romney RINO wing?

Posted on 04/14/2011 2:57:00 PM PDT by teg_76

Only 59 of the 240+ House Republicans voted against this deal. It seems we have a long way to go.

Boehner, whose staff will hang up on you if you call and ask him to take a stand against Obamacare, did get almost 80 democrats to vote for it though. What does that tell you?


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KEYWORDS: backstabberboehner; backstabberove; backstabberromney; benedictboehner; benedictromney; benedictrove; boehner; boehner4dnc; obama; obamacare; palin; romney; romney4dnc; rove; rove4dnc; teaparty

1 posted on 04/14/2011 2:57:08 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: teg_76

It’s going to be hard.


2 posted on 04/14/2011 2:58:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

They can’t be controlled. They must be expunged.


3 posted on 04/14/2011 2:59:40 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: teg_76

No.

Your math is correct. There are many more RINOs than conservatives, meaning that the true RINOs are actually conservatives!


4 posted on 04/14/2011 3:04:39 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: teg_76

It is sort of like the question about reigning in the Federal Government and it’s borrow and spend ways...not until the whole thing comes crashing down in destruction and chaos will you be able to rebuild. Until it becomes entirely untenable and collapses, inertia will rule and continuing efforts, more and more futile as time passes, to prop up the house of cards will still hold the upper hand. People will not change their ways until there is absolutely no other choice.


5 posted on 04/14/2011 3:06:20 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: teg_76

not peacefully


6 posted on 04/14/2011 3:06:36 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: teg_76
Rush put it right today when he said the freshman Tea Party Congress is being “managed” by those who think they are in power.

I really, really tired of being considered “stupid” by the likes of John Boehner, Mitch McConnell and the rest of the GOP Insider Politicians.

We are all so worried about Trump going “3rd Party” - we already GOT third party it's just no one is recognizing it.

7 posted on 04/14/2011 3:07:24 PM PDT by not2worry (WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND)
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To: teg_76

maybe you are wrong ...is that a possibility?


8 posted on 04/14/2011 3:09:13 PM PDT by woofie
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To: teg_76

A supermajority of Republicans are what we call RINOs, which means the name is meaningless. If you are in the majority, you aren’t a RINO, the minority conservatives are the RINOs. A better moniker for most Republicans would be CINO.

People must figure out that most Republicans aren’t conservatives. That’s why I left the Republicans, I didn’t want to be a member of a moderate party. I still vote Republican since they are marginally the better choice. I only contribute directly to my preferred candidates.

Expecting Republicans to be conservative is falling for the MSM meme. Most Republicans are moderates. That’s because they reflect their moderate constituents.

The number of right-wing conservatives in America is vastly overestimated, imo.


9 posted on 04/14/2011 3:10:17 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: teg_76

Withhold donations. Give directly to tour candidate of choice.


10 posted on 04/14/2011 3:10:17 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: teg_76
Open Question: Will we ever wrest control from the establishment Boehner/Rove/Romney RINO wing? other D party?
11 posted on 04/14/2011 3:11:03 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: jjotto

Yes! Please read my comment #9 and see if you agree.


12 posted on 04/14/2011 3:16:08 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Throw away your papers, blow up your TV...and set yourself free.)
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To: teg_76

These worthless money grubbing RINOs need voted out, the ones who put that Douche Bag up for speaker,Need to go as well.


13 posted on 04/14/2011 3:17:01 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: SaxxonWoods

I do agree. But I also think it MIGHT be possible to convince enough Republicans to become conservatives.

More importantly, I believe conservatives should be trying to establish geographic control over some political units like cities, counties, congressional districts and maybe a state or two. Trouble is, real control involves simply ignoring the court system, which is the real enemy.


14 posted on 04/14/2011 3:23:17 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: teg_76

Well, let see...we’ve tried the soap box and that didn’t work. And we used the ballot box and that was an exercise in futility. So.....


15 posted on 04/14/2011 3:30:10 PM PDT by W.Lee (No compromise)
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To: teg_76

We can pass the budget, not pass it, lower the debt ceiling and do all kinds of things trying to get out of debt, but if we allow the Muslims to take over, all these exercises will be just like pissing in a head wind.


16 posted on 04/14/2011 3:30:42 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: teg_76
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
17 posted on 04/14/2011 3:33:45 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: teg_76

I am feeling pretty pessimistic about the chance of this happening without another Reagan or Goldwater appearing out of nowhere. Until then the Tea Partiers and other like-minded individuals are being played like a bunch of rubes. And the sad part is that we don’t have 10 years to waste on figuring out how to salvage any thing that resembles republican prinicples to the Republican Party. If we can’t get it done by next election cycle, it won’t matter.

That’s why if the slate of candidates for 2012 looks like garbage to me, then I am bailing to go take care of what I need to take care of on a personal basis before the doodoo from all the statism and debt really hits the fan. And we thought the Great Recession of 2008 was horrific, we haven’t seen anything yet.


18 posted on 04/14/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: teg_76
this just proves that we need to direct our fire to getting conservative leaders not foot soldiers. A conservative Speaker would have given a different bill to vote on. A conservative POTUS like Palin will produce different policies than say Mitt and the congress will go along with whichever POTUS is at the top. Congress is not a leader they are a check on an over reaching POTUS/Court. they do not and never have led.

Stop wasting your money on fighting rino footsoldeirs and unite to elect a conservative in the leadership positions. Primary the speaker, and McConell. Get Palin or some other conservative elected as POTUS and the foot soldiers will fall in line.

19 posted on 04/14/2011 4:12:00 PM PDT by unseen1
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To: teg_76

Yes,, and here’s why. I have only given a few donations to candidates, all were small. I have never been on a call for donations list. I’ve never received solicitation calls. Also, i’m a guy that only uses a cell, and hasn’t had a landline in years.
In the last 2 months i have been called 3 times by the repub national committee, or by their chosen few.

1) If they are calling me, they are hurting.

2) Everytime, I tell them im sick of them, and will happily donate to Sarah, the woman they are busy trying to undermine. I remind them that they supported Murkowski. Each time, they sounded like they were told that about 80 times per hour.

Beat the ba$tards down,, they are a recalcitrant dog that WILL be brought to heel. Turn away for a second Cesar Milan, we are getting this dog’s attention first.


20 posted on 04/14/2011 4:24:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: teg_76

The answer to your post is “NO”. Obamacare is the law and I predict will remain the law. There are two parties in D.C. working to destroy this nation. And they’re almost there.


21 posted on 04/14/2011 4:29:56 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Only a SECOND party will get my vote.)
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To: teg_76

” It seems we have a long way to go”

yep—at least 240 must be replaced. I hope a large majority of FReepers have become delegates.


22 posted on 04/14/2011 5:26:32 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: teg_76

The Tea Party should strategically focus on primarying the most influential RINOs. Boehner would be a great place to start. He’s a wuss anyway and not terribly bright, so he’d be no big loss, even if a Rat got his seat temporarily.

We need to send a big message to the rest of the RINOs that they better start representing the people instead of themselves or they’re gonna be next.


23 posted on 04/14/2011 5:55:48 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the right stuff! "Anybody but Obama in 2012!")
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To: catnipman

I could not agree more. Defeating Boehner in a primary would be a clear signal that we no longer want business as usual...


24 posted on 04/14/2011 6:46:42 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: nickcarraway

No, we just need to run Tea Party candidates and let the GOP die on the vine.


25 posted on 04/14/2011 7:27:56 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: dajeeps
Rand Paul could be that type of Goldwater figure... have you been watching his performance since being elected Senator from Kentucky?

He stands up for the TEA party all the time on the Senate floor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh3MWCcLTi0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNJKO6Pma40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXs5R0Qn9Ac
26 posted on 04/14/2011 8:06:16 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Minus_The_Bear

He is the real deal and he’s smart too!

He’s also young, a M.D. and really believes what he says. Most old school ‘Republicans’ just lie and say what they think will make all of us dewey eyed - then turn and stab us in the back (think Lindsey Grahmnesty).

Also, be aware there is a machine behind all of these bad candidates, RNC (and DNC) are run by the great money powers that the MSM never, ever talks about. Remember “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington?” Ultimately, it wasn’t the Senator who was as bad as the political backroom machine. And the machine calls the shots and gives us the anointed candidates we are offered - meaning they are already bought out before they are put forward.

We have to vote for those who by actions in the past have been for lesser federal power - that is all I look at - the ones who try and starve the beast back to its constitutional confines are the ones who need our support, even if you don’t agree with everything the say.

Also, I really can’t stand Karl Rove - the ultimate compromising quisling, machine politician, hack- he makes me nauseous every time I see him - won’t he please just go back to the rock he crawled out of.


27 posted on 04/16/2011 12:03:45 PM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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