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ATLAS SHRUGGED- Freeper Reviews
Freepers | April 15, 2011 | RobFromGa

Posted on 04/15/2011 1:31:44 PM PDT by RobFromGa

Atlas Shrugged Part 1 Quick Review- 5 stars!

Very faithful to Rand's ideas. I didn't feel like they skipped any major items... the back story with Francisco was hinted at and would have been too hard to develop completely.

Casting was superb. Hank (Hooray!) and Lillian (Boo!)Rearden and Ellis Wyatt (!!!) were done perfectly as was Wesley Mouch and the other moochers and looters. Dagny was good but it took about ten minutes for me to completely buy her in the role.

Pace was perfect... it kept moving at a fast speed, and I didn't want it to end.

Cinematography very good- hard to believe only cost about $5 million! The Rearden Metal bridge was great, as was the Colorado landscape shots...

Audience Reaction: Duluth, GA 12:25pm showing was about 80% full (there was noon showing in a larger theater already going) & audience reacted with enthusiasm throughout and Applause at end.

Can't wait for Part 2! I will be going back to see Part One more than once...

Minor nitpick- shouldn't have had the date 2016 on the movie, it is timeless.


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To: r-q-tek86

“In sumation[sic], I would give the movie two stars out of five.”

Ouch, 2stars out of 5 doesn’t bode well. I thank you though for an honest review. I will of course see the movie anyway. I want this to be a great movie but frankly I am skeptical. I can see this would be a hard movie to pull off in this day and age. I wish they would have put it in it’s original setting instead of attempting to modernize it.


51 posted on 04/15/2011 2:48:00 PM PDT by Graneros ("The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits." — Albert Einstein)
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To: AZLiberty
I thought the date choice was brilliant: far enough out to separate it from current politics, near enough to make it a credible projection of current trends.

It is fine today, but what about in 2016 or 2017 or 2030?

52 posted on 04/15/2011 2:49:46 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: fwdude
Not to sidetrack the discussion, but DUmmyland is posting like mad about a movie they have no interest in. Telling, much?

And "atlas shrugged" is the number one search term on Google today. Telling, indeed.

53 posted on 04/15/2011 2:49:46 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Task 1: Accomplished, Task 2: Hold them Accountable!)
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To: RobFromGa

Grrrrr... no showings in my area.


54 posted on 04/15/2011 2:54:25 PM PDT by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: fwdude
Galt isn’t revealed until later in the story, is he? (Although he is in the background from the beginning.)

I have read the book a couple of times. You will find out who he is in the second movie.

55 posted on 04/15/2011 2:55:17 PM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I saw the kings speech and thought it dragged, especially for a movie. It felt more like something I’d catch on the history channel. Not horrible, but not top grades


56 posted on 04/15/2011 2:56:23 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: jessduntno

exactly


57 posted on 04/15/2011 3:00:23 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Tribune7

heh heh heh


58 posted on 04/15/2011 3:07:23 PM PDT by kimmie7 (I do not think BO is the antichrist, but he may very well be 665.)
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To: RobFromGa
The way things are going we won't be allowed to watch Atlas Shrugged in 2016 and beyond.
59 posted on 04/15/2011 3:07:55 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: Crazieman
couple page screed that outlined the destruction of the 20th century motor company from a bum.

Can't be sure, haven't seen the movie.

But ... I'd cast John Galt as the bum in that scene.

60 posted on 04/15/2011 3:09:48 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: JaguarXKE

Good, I use the Roger Ebert reverse review system.


61 posted on 04/15/2011 3:16:23 PM PDT by bray (Has Oboehner surrendered to his master yet?)
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To: Graneros
I wish they would have put it in it’s original setting instead of attempting to modernize it.

A current day setting is perfect. The moral of the story is the need to change the politician created mess we have today.

62 posted on 04/15/2011 3:16:30 PM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years)
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To: RobFromGa

How much sex was in it?


63 posted on 04/15/2011 3:20:51 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: RobFromGa

I enjoyed it. Small group in our party but the theater was fairly full for a noon showing. Too bad there are half a dozen threads on this..would have been good to stick with the one posted first & just added to it so all comments could be together

Always frustrating here at FR when there are so many threads on the same topic essentially..


64 posted on 04/15/2011 3:21:55 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: RobFromGa

Ping for later.


65 posted on 04/15/2011 3:25:24 PM PDT by bbernard
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To: r-q-tek86
The parts involving the Rearden Metal bracelet were delicious.

We're going tonight. I hope my wife remembers to wear her "Liberty Bracelet" forged from Rearden Metal.

66 posted on 04/15/2011 3:29:14 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: RobFromGa

My wife and I saw the 12:25 show also. I do not have much of a critical eye for acting and cinematography, so take my review with a grain of salt. :-)

Go. See. Atlas. Shrugged.

It’s not without it’s technical problems, but the message is too important to throw the baby out with the bath water.

Some things I noticed have been mentioned upthread — the acting was a bit rigid but not so much so that it was terribly distracting. The production was true to Rand’s work, as well as I can remember. (I read AS 3 years ago and had forgotten some details. I had completely forgotten Paul Larkin, for example.)

As has been mentioned, some of the villain characters were a bit underdeveloped. The viewer can see that there are several of them and get a sense of what they represent, but more of their hidden thoughts and objectives could have been brought out. It’s clear they’re up to no good when the Equalization of Opportunity bill is passed, but the underlying evil which drives such ideas could have been presented more explicitly.

When I came out of the theater I remembered Obama’s speech from Wednesday and thought of the similarities between it and and the looters in Atlas. One can barely distinguish the two.

My wife is a full-time mom and homeschools our 4 kids who range in age from 1 to 7. During this period of her life, most of her news and “outside world” information comes through me, and Atlas is no exception. As I read the book 3 years ago I would tell her about it as I went. She saw the movie with me today and at times I could see her wiping away a tear. The message of the movie is not lost on those who are willing to see that message.

As we left the theater, I was gratified to see a vanity plate on a high-end automobile which said “RGNOMX”. It warms the heart. ;-)


67 posted on 04/15/2011 3:29:17 PM PDT by RBranha (Captialism is the natural outgrowth of human freedom.)
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To: RobFromGa

Ping for later, going tonight (hopefully).


68 posted on 04/15/2011 3:29:32 PM PDT by Bush_Democrat (ATLAS SHRUGGED was supposed to be a warning, NOT a newspaper.)
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To: netmilsmom

there was a bedroom scene that was probably 1 minute long between Hank and Dagny. no nudity and mainly kissing but they were on a bed and embracing. pretty tame, but it was adultery as well.

there was also a short bedroom scene between Hank and Lillian showing him leaving after they were done that was a chuckle point in the movie...


69 posted on 04/15/2011 3:33:09 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa

Roger Ebert hated it. Tells me all I need to know - It must be great!


70 posted on 04/15/2011 3:33:11 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: OldNavyVet

Oh I don’t want them to change the moral. No the gist of the book remains the same no matter what. I just feel it would have given the movie a better feel to stay within the time frame of the book. I feel a period piece, particularly one depicting train travel, would seem more natural and enhance the message even more. Either way I hope the movie breathes new life into Ayn Rand’s message for a whole new generation.


71 posted on 04/15/2011 3:35:16 PM PDT by Graneros ("The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits." — Albert Einstein)
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To: Graneros
Rand's own 1963 description of the time setting: You ask whether Atlas Shrugged represents the present or the future?

The answer is-- both. To be exact, the action of Atlas Shrugged takes place in the near future, about ten years from the time when one reads the book. (Letters of Ayn Rand, p. 613)

Rand considered the setting of the novel to be shifting, regardless of when it is read, and therefore it has no specific time setting other than "near future."

Reinforcing this idea of a non-specific time setting, Rand comments in The Art of Fiction, saying that "Atlas Shrugged is of no period" (p. 163).

72 posted on 04/15/2011 3:40:53 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Yes, that’s on my short list. I hear it’s great.


73 posted on 04/15/2011 3:44:14 PM PDT by fwdude (The world is sleeping in the dark that the Church just can't fight, 'cause it's asleep in the light.)
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To: DollyCali
Always frustrating here at FR when there are so many threads on the same topic essentially..

There was another thread about how well it did at the box office according to Variety?

74 posted on 04/15/2011 3:44:56 PM PDT by jessduntno (http://www.youtube.com/user/peptopro17)
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To: RobFromGa

Thank you so much!

I would like my 13 and 11-year-olds to see it. I would not let them read the book because of the sex. They did read the Spark Notes and have studied the main idea of the book.


75 posted on 04/15/2011 3:46:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: DollyCali
Too bad there are half a dozen threads on this..

I searched before i posted, and this is the only thread I see for Freeper comments on the movie that came out today. What other threads are you referring to with the "so many threads" comment?

76 posted on 04/15/2011 3:46:48 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Aggie Mama; alarm rider; alexander_busek; AlligatorEyes; AmericanGirlRising; ...

Book club members, post your own reviews.


77 posted on 04/15/2011 3:46:48 PM PDT by Publius
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To: caww

Well, that was an interesting trip back to the future. I think the Republican party needs to adopt Ayn Rand’s simple advice. “Separate government from economics”. Just imagine what a change that would create in both government and economics.


78 posted on 04/15/2011 3:48:22 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Publius; FreeKeys

thanks!

also pinging FreeKeys


79 posted on 04/15/2011 3:49:03 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Crazieman
I have one major cut complaint, and that is the couple page screed that outlined the destruction of the 20th century motor company from a bum.

The appears in Part 3, not Part 1.

My disappointment was that there were no shots of Starnesville and the way that section of Wisconsin regressed back to the Dark Ages after the factory closed.

I also thought that Ivy Starnes, whom Rand sets up as a proto-hippie, should have been smoking a joint as big as Baltimore rather than hanging out the wash.

80 posted on 04/15/2011 3:51:51 PM PDT by Publius
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To: kanawa

Mine neither. That DVD isn’t going to come out fast enough for me.


81 posted on 04/15/2011 3:52:26 PM PDT by Ladysmith ("There is no right that allows one person to place a burden on another." - Quinn)
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To: RobFromGa

if you have any doubts... Henry Rearden Comes Home

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PK5Sq3bIHY&feature=player_embedded


82 posted on 04/15/2011 3:52:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: InterceptPoint
Very good turnout for that time of day - probably 75% full.

Only 20 people at the first show in Seattle, but you could cram the entire conservative and libertarian population of Seattle into a phone booth, and they would fit comfortably.

83 posted on 04/15/2011 3:54:22 PM PDT by Publius
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To: r-q-tek86

How was Midas Mulligan depicted?


84 posted on 04/15/2011 4:10:11 PM PDT by re_nortex (DP...that's what I like about Texas.)
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To: re_nortex

Midas was picked off in the first scene, which made it contemporary, rather than 6 years previous. We get to meet Galt as a man in a raincoat with his face obscured. Good bit of screenwriting.


85 posted on 04/15/2011 4:12:05 PM PDT by Publius
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To: Chode

Drat, just watching that scene, I’m not sure I want to see the movie. The casting is not up to my imagination from reading the book. That’s what I hate about movies made from books, especially if you have read the book. Hank Rearden is a much tougher man, more introspect. The strong silent type who lives in his own head with little regard for people around him (until he meets Dagny. John Wayne in a suit or Clint Eastwood type would be Hank. I don’t know who the actor is, but he is squishy, almost effeminate. Lillian and the rest of the family are okay. I imagine Dagny as looking like a Lauren Bacall with short hair. Tough.


86 posted on 04/15/2011 4:14:59 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: Publius

Another minor nitpick was the scene with Hugh Akston at the Diner- he said nothing at all of interest and seemed kinda like ‘The Dude’... but a very minor problem. Stadler wasn’t impressive either considering the role that the two of them played in the 3 protaganists education...


87 posted on 04/15/2011 4:16:58 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa

Rob, I am sorry, didn’t mean it to be critical of you but in reading my comment, it surely came out that way.

yours is probably the only AAR (comment) thread. In general there have been the past week quite a few threads (I am usually PMed or Emailed on them due to having the cinema ping list)

It just would be nice for so many things to be in conversation with people without having to bounce to various threads to do so.

I guess I am tired & over reacted.

I did post a comment on IMDb (usually takes a day or two)

thanks for the thread even though I have come across as an ungrateful _________ (fill in whatever yuk word you want)

d


88 posted on 04/15/2011 4:17:10 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: American Quilter
FReeper Book Club: Introduction to Atlas Shrugged
Part I, Chapter I: The Theme
Part I, Chapter II: The Chain
Part I, Chapter III: The Top and the Bottom
Part I, Chapter IV: The Immovable Movers
Part I, Chapter V: The Climax of the d’Anconias
Part I, Chapter VI: The Non-Commercial
Part I, Chapter VII: The Exploiters and the Exploited
Part I, Chapter VIII: The John Galt Line
Part I, Chapter IX: The Sacred and the Profane
Part I, Chapter X: Wyatt’s Torch
Part II, Chapter I: The Man Who Belonged on Earth
Part II, Chapter II: The Aristocracy of Pull
Part II, Chapter III: White Blackmail
Part II, Chapter IV: The Sanction of the Victim
Part II, Chapter V: Account Overdrawn
Part II, Chapter VI: Miracle Metal
Part II, Chapter VII: The Moratorium on Brains
Part II, Chapter VIII: By Our Love
Part II, Chapter IX: The Face Without Pain or Fear or Guilt
Part II, Chapter X: The Sign of the Dollar
Part III, Chapter I: Atlantis
Part III, Chapter II: The Utopia of Greed
Part III, Chapter III: Anti-Greed
Part III, Chapter IV: Anti-Life
Part III, Chapter V: Their Brothers’ Keepers
Part III, Chapter VI: The Concerto of Deliverance
Part III, Chapter VII: “This is John Galt Speaking”
Part III, Chapter VIII: The Egoist
Part III, Chapter IX: The Generator
Part III, Chapter X: In the Name of the Best Within Us
Coda: Ten Years After
Afterword and Suggested Reading
89 posted on 04/15/2011 4:18:17 PM PDT by Publius
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To: r-q-tek86

Dr. Robert Stadler with a Middle European accent threw me a bit.


90 posted on 04/15/2011 4:19:58 PM PDT by Publius
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To: WVNan

Grant Bowler did a great job with Hank Rearden imho.

And Taylor Schilling took a few minutes to get used too, but she pulled it off imho...

If you enjoyed the book, I think it is safe that you will find the movie to be true to it.


91 posted on 04/15/2011 4:19:58 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Graneros
" I wish they would have put it in it’s original setting instead of attempting to modernize it."

I do not know when I'll get to see it. Hopefully in the near future.

Still, even the book itself written in the 1950s tended to ignore Television and jet planes, and other evidence of Progress. The book to me had the flavor of the 1930s which seems counter intuitive to produce in the era of Sputnik and Sound Barrier breaking.

I am saying that Rand herself used the same sort of technique in order to tell her story.

She ignored stuff, and that involved "the suspension of disbelief" was required in order to get her real message out.

92 posted on 04/15/2011 4:20:28 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: RobFromGa

How did you like my cameo?


93 posted on 04/15/2011 4:21:54 PM PDT by OwenKellogg (Defund Elmo, TOTUS, and GOTUS)
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To: WVNan
i kinda thought it played alright myself, and it stopped short of his response
94 posted on 04/15/2011 4:22:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: DollyCali

Dolly,

I am not offended at all.

All the other threads were based on links to some ‘professional’ reviews of the movie as they came out.

This one is a thread just for Freeper thoughts and reviews...

:-)
Rob


95 posted on 04/15/2011 4:22:46 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: Publius

I really did appreciate you posting the links from the book thread on the Atlas Shrugged thread a week ago. I shared them with many friends who had & who had NOT read the book & they were impressed with your work

I have had a couple years of hit /miss at FR with my mom’s decline & death.. missed a lot including your offering which I would have loved to have participated with over the course of the posting


96 posted on 04/15/2011 4:22:58 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: OldNavyVet

The bum was Jeff Allen, who witnessed the fall of the 20th Century Motor Co.


97 posted on 04/15/2011 4:23:33 PM PDT by Publius
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To: RBranha

The actor who played Paul Larkin played a lot of gay characters in various TV shows. I didn’t expect to see him here, but he was a good casting choice.


98 posted on 04/15/2011 4:25:24 PM PDT by Publius
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To: OwenKellogg

I thought Owen Kellogg was very good. The first competent person we saw actually go on strike and the one who made Dagny start to question who is the Destroyer and what is he up to?


99 posted on 04/15/2011 4:26:03 PM PDT by RobFromGa
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To: RobFromGa
Saw the 1pm in Aliso Viejo, CA. Maybe 65-70 people in attendance, mostly older 35-70 types. I'd give it 4 stars, but I went in expecting a “TV” movie, which it did have the feel of. Still liked it though.
100 posted on 04/15/2011 4:27:59 PM PDT by Slicksadick (Go out on a limb........Its where the fruit is.)
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