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Trump Warns Cantor Not To Give Up Birther Fight: 'People Love This Issue'
TPM ^ | April 16, 2011 | Evan McMorris-Santoro

Posted on 04/16/2011 3:49:09 PM PDT by UniqueViews

"I don't think he is really serious when we see a campaign launch on the birther issue," Cantor said.

On Friday, Karl Rove told Fox News Trump is a "joke candidate" because of his birther-centric media cavalcade.

"It's amazing," Trump said. "He's so against me, because I am questioning. All I want to see is the guy's birth certificate."

(Excerpt) Read more at tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: attackthemessenger; birthcertificate; cantor; certifigate; donald; donaldtrump; naturalborncitizen; obama; teaparty; trump
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1 posted on 04/16/2011 3:49:14 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: UniqueViews

“The Republicans have to be very careful of him,” Trump continued. “Because obviously Karl Rove hasn’t been doing very well the last couple of years...Whether you like it or not, George Bush gave us Obama, and I’m not having that.”

Exactly and Homo Rove slammed COD


2 posted on 04/16/2011 3:52:15 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: UniqueViews

I’m beginning to think we need to see everyone’s birth certificate... especially Carl Rove’s.


3 posted on 04/16/2011 3:52:28 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever
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To: UniqueViews

It’s great that Trump’s antics have raised the visibility of this issue, but he’s on the wrong page.

The issue isn’t so much BO’s BC, but the citizenship of BO’s father, whoever he might be. Maybe the BC could help with IDing him, but if he wasn’t a US citizen, then BO is not a Natural Born Citizen, regardless of whether he’s a US citizen or not. Two different classes of citizens.


4 posted on 04/16/2011 3:53:09 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: UniqueViews
Trump's speech to the Tea Party down there was pretty good.
5 posted on 04/16/2011 3:53:22 PM PDT by exist
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To: UniqueViews

I think people “love” any questioning of The One, any attempt to look into his background, his experience or lack thereof, his competence - so far anything along those lines is simply condemned as racist.


6 posted on 04/16/2011 3:53:24 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: UniqueViews
"All I want to see is the guy's birth certificate."

So does the state of Arizona: Proof of Citizenship

7 posted on 04/16/2011 3:54:43 PM PDT by cowboyway (Molon labe : Deo Vindice : "Rebellion is always an option!!"--Jim Robinson)
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To: UniqueViews
Up until now I've been all for Trump going after the BC issue because I thought he was pretending to run for president.

Now that it looks like he actually might, I am positive he's Perot II.

If he actually runs, his only goal will be to divert enough conservative votes from Palin to hand Obama a second term.

A vote for Trump will be a vote for Obama.

8 posted on 04/16/2011 3:55:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: UniqueViews
Sarah in Madison Wis. Today: "What we need is for you, GOP, is to stand up and fight! Maybe I should ask some of the Badger Woman's Hockey Team - those champions. Maybe I should ask them, if we should be suggesting to GOP leaders they need to learn how to fight like a girrrl?
9 posted on 04/16/2011 3:59:30 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Cheetahcat
Rove slammed COD

I know!

How dare that son of a bitch have an opinion?

Who does he think he is, acting all independently and stuff?

We need to suppress that sort of thinking, you betcha.

10 posted on 04/16/2011 4:00:06 PM PDT by humblegunner (Blogger Overlord)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Perot ran as a third party candidate. Trump would be running as a Republican nominee.

I don’t know whether or not he will really run, but I am enjoying that he talks straight, not afraid of anything or anyone and he is making the “great O” shake in his boots.


11 posted on 04/16/2011 4:00:12 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A vote for Trump will be a vote for Obama.

He's entertainment value only.

If he becomes a viable candidate for POTUS then we are much further gone than most realize as a nation.

He will NEVER be POTUS, as you stated E., Trump can only be the reason for an Obama reelection nothing more.

12 posted on 04/16/2011 4:01:44 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A vote for Trump will be a vote for Obama.

Not if he takes him down first.

The GOP is on notice. Ignore eligibility at your own peril. Defend the Constitution or else.

I won't vote for any Republican who won't take the Constitution seriously.

13 posted on 04/16/2011 4:02:20 PM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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To: savedbygrace

“The issue isn’t so much BO’s BC, but the citizenship of BO’s father, whoever he might be.”

Yes and No.
Where else would you find that information?
On the birth certificate.
There is obviously very damning information on the real
birth certificate.
That is why they are stonewalling.


14 posted on 04/16/2011 4:02:31 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: shalom aleichem
...so far anything along those lines is simply condemned as racist.

So what?

15 posted on 04/16/2011 4:02:51 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: UniqueViews

Trump’s own audio clips from Mark Levin show.

Devastating in my opinion, and I’m sad to say they were a real eye-opener to me. Decide for yourself. This is really, really not good.

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/04/sound-trumpet.html

Highlights:

He says he is “liberal” on healthcare, and that we must have universal Canadian-style healthcare 

He says he can’t understand why Nancy Pelosi didn’t do more to impeach the “evil” (his word) George Bush for “lying” to get us into Iraq.

He says he doesn’t understand why John Kerry didn’t win in 2004.

Said that George Bush was the worst president ever, although now he has changed his story to say Obama and Carter were the worst.

Don’t be fooled by this guy.

.


16 posted on 04/16/2011 4:07:47 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: AlexW
Where else would you find that information? On the birth certificate.

Everybody who had a professional interest in the 2008 election -- or so much as an ounce of interest in politics -- knew that Obama's father was born in Kenya months (if not years) before the election.

In fact, he stated the fact in his first book.

So, why do we need the birth certificate to prove it?

And, since his father's nationality didn't matter then, why would it matter now?

17 posted on 04/16/2011 4:08:07 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: UniqueViews
Perot ran as a third party candidate. Trump would be running as a Republican nominee.

Trump's already said he would run as an Independent if he didn't get the Republican nomination.

18 posted on 04/16/2011 4:08:49 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: savedbygrace

This is also the issue that should be talked about. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/bill-oreilly-busted-caught-red-handed.html


19 posted on 04/16/2011 4:09:27 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: shalom aleichem

It’s amazing how many people who want to know Obama’s past (and I consider myself a birther and support Trump doing this) want to ignore Trump’s recent liberal past. See post above.


20 posted on 04/16/2011 4:10:10 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: AlexW

That’s why I phrased it exactly as I did, AND I said the BC might have that info. (Or it might not.)


21 posted on 04/16/2011 4:12:13 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: humblegunner

Hell people on FR are acting as if they would have impeached Reagan if he did not say exactly that they want to hear.

In the present environment Rove is the devil ...Bush is Obama’s father (he brought us Obama) and Trump is a Right Wing Christian (because he says so)

Im beginning to wonder about people


22 posted on 04/16/2011 4:13:02 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Cheetahcat

I love that HONEST QUOTE.

Karl Rove IS THE PROBLEM and ROVE CREATED OBAMA !


23 posted on 04/16/2011 4:13:21 PM PDT by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: humblegunner

“Rove slammed COD

I know!

How dare that son of a bitch have an opinion?

Who does he think he is, acting all independently and stuff?

We need to suppress that sort of thinking, you betcha.”

Genius, it was the manner in which it was done and the timing ,I have never seen anything like it, that yellow bastard yelling about a candidate before a election!!

Spiteful and unforgivable.


24 posted on 04/16/2011 4:14:01 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

My problem is that it is an important issue but its not the only issue and it isn’t the one that will win an election.

Agreed about Trump, he’s just saying what people want to hear. Unfortunately what people want to hear and what they need to hear are often two very different things.


25 posted on 04/16/2011 4:14:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

What is wrong with a little competition?

The great thing about Trump is that he will make Romney, Huckster and all the mealy mouthed establishment candidates look like wimps, and they will get out early.

If Palin, Bachmann and Trump duke it out until the end, I think it will be good for the party, because they will go after Obama instead of each other.

If Trump goes 3rd party, it is only because the math of the Electoral College will work.

If the choice is between Romney, Trump and Obama, are you really going to vote Romney or the Huckster?

A lot of conservatives won’t vote for Romney of Huckabee and they are the leaders of the pack right now.


26 posted on 04/16/2011 4:14:59 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: UniqueViews

“I don’t know whether or not he will really run, but I am enjoying that he talks straight, not afraid of anything or anyone and he is making the “great O” shake in his boots.”

Likewise! And unlike Perot, his positions and proposals are specific (for this stage of the game) and are ones with which I largely agree.


27 posted on 04/16/2011 4:15:19 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: okie01; AlexW; savedbygrace
And, since his father's nationality didn't matter then, why would it matter now?

Lack of NBC status based on BHO Senior's noncitizenship is very important, and I agree that it disqualifies. But there are a lot of people who don't accept the premise of both parents. If that's all we want to emphasize, we get bogged down in debate about the intent of the framers, and anyone who wants to ignore the eligibility issue can just choose not to care.

Not so if we can prove that the so-called president has been flim-flamming us. He is hiding something, either on the BC or in other records, and I want to know what it is. Fraud is something that everyone understands and no one can deny if proof can be shown. I'm tickled that Donald Trump is spending his time, energy, and other considerable resources on that.

28 posted on 04/16/2011 4:15:26 PM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Haven’t you heard the saying “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”?

Trump is the only one right now who is attacking Obama with no holds barred. So why aren’t you glad about it, instead of trying to discredit Trump?

Most of us are pretty tired of the timidity of the Republicans who don’t think key issues, such as whether or not our President is legitimate or not, should be investigated.


29 posted on 04/16/2011 4:16:09 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: UniqueViews

Thanks Rush for giving this a$$ a platform. I guess that $100,000 donation was worth the trouble Trump is going to cause our side.

Too bad Rush didn’t get some advice from Mark Levin before he sold out.


30 posted on 04/16/2011 4:16:12 PM PDT by Carley ( TYPICAL STREET THUG, NASTY BULLY, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT.)
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To: UniqueViews

Trump has already announced that if he doesn’t win the republican nomination he would consider running as an independent.

How do you like them apples.......


31 posted on 04/16/2011 4:17:45 PM PDT by Carley ( TYPICAL STREET THUG, NASTY BULLY, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT.)
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To: cripplecreek

I agree. And the fact that Trump is being so demonstrably deceptive goes to his character, and is what is pretty frightening.


32 posted on 04/16/2011 4:17:53 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: Genoa

“I won’t vote for any Republican who won’t take the Constitution seriously.”

D**n straight.


33 posted on 04/16/2011 4:18:17 PM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: Carley
"people love this issue" just proves what I've always thought about Trump. He's just saying what he thinks people want to hear. If he really cared about this issue he would've been investigating it 2-3 years ago.
34 posted on 04/16/2011 4:19:16 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Donald Trump calls George W Bush "evil": http://tinyurl.com/3bej26r)
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To: Carley

“Thanks Rush for giving this a$$ a platform”

Why? You don’t think Rush should give a platform to someone who is not afraid to question Obama’s legitimacy and agenda?

You can always listen to Alan Colmes...


35 posted on 04/16/2011 4:19:34 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: exist

Trump passes the 2A litmus test!!


36 posted on 04/16/2011 4:20:07 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: EGPWS
No, when we elected Barack Hussein Obama, a man born from and African Father, grew up in Indonesia, with no connection in his heart to the USA, who attended a church preaching hate against white America and America in general..that is when we jumped the shark. Trump is a businessman worth 2.7 billion who loves America and deals internationally with businessmen and politicians all the time. Your opinion of Trump is just an opinion...or do you think it's time to “fight like a girl”?
37 posted on 04/16/2011 4:21:33 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: ncalburt
“I love that HONEST QUOTE.

Karl Rove IS THE PROBLEM and ROVE CREATED OBAMA !" Absolutely!

38 posted on 04/16/2011 4:22:23 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Carley

“Trump has already announced that if he doesn’t win the republican nomination he would consider running as an independent.

You need to be more discerning and not believe everything you hear... Trump may not run at all.

You and so many others try to predict the future, instead of enjoying the present — finally someone tells it like it and not afraid to question Obama’s legitimacy.


39 posted on 04/16/2011 4:22:25 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: rambo316

This is also the issue that should be talked about. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/bill-oreilly-busted-caught-red-handed.html


Thank you for posting that.


40 posted on 04/16/2011 4:22:25 PM PDT by matthew fuller (TRUMP RESONATES WITH AMERICANS, INDEPENDENTS, and PATRIOTS!)
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To: UniqueViews

You misunderstand. I applaud what he’s doing on the BC issue.

But he is a phony “conservative” as demonstrated by his own audio clips:

I just heard these from the Mark Levin show and they are devastating:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/04/sound-trumpet.html

Highlights:

He says he is “liberal” on healthcare, and that we must have universal Canadian-style healthcare 

He says he can’t understand why Nancy Pelosi didn’t do more to impeach the “evil” (his word) George Bush for “lying” to get us into Iraq.

He says he doesn’t understand why John Kerry didn’t win in 2004.

Said that George Bush was the worst president ever, although now he has changed his story to say Obama and Carter were the worst.

Don’t be fooled by this guy.

.


41 posted on 04/16/2011 4:22:30 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (The "11th Commandment" applies to Republicans, not RINOs.)
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To: ejdrapes

Please name the other Republican front runners who have addressed this issue and if you can post a link.


42 posted on 04/16/2011 4:22:58 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A vote for Trump will be a vote for Obama Hillary.

This is the cork in Little Barry's bathtub!

43 posted on 04/16/2011 4:23:05 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
NO Trump did NOT say that.

I heard him n Hannity veey clearly ! Trump said he would only run as a third party if the GOP person was losing badly to Obama and POLLS showed IF HE WOULD JUMP IN then HE COULD WIN.

Trump went on to STATE he would NOT RUN period if it would result in OBAMA WINNING.
He stated that twice that it was all about DEFEATING Obama anyway possible.

So why are you peddling that crap ?

44 posted on 04/16/2011 4:23:34 PM PDT by ncalburt (Get Even on Election Day)
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To: cripplecreek

Does Trump string this birther stuff out till the election?

God ,I hope not ....

He needs to put up or shut up ....

Lets hear all bout what Trump has “discovered” so far


45 posted on 04/16/2011 4:24:06 PM PDT by woofie
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To: matthew fuller

Your welcome, by any chance, did you see the second one down regarding what the P.I. has found?


46 posted on 04/16/2011 4:25:02 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: woofie

All in good time, Woofie.


47 posted on 04/16/2011 4:25:22 PM PDT by Genoa (Just show it)
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To: stars & stripes forever
I’m beginning to think we need to see everyone’s birth certificate... especially Carl Rove’s.

Carlo Rove may have been born in Mexico (joking) the way he was so open borders. He banned Tom Tancredo from the White House. Rove should stop bit**ing, his day has come and gone. He should be content with his current gig as a Fox New contributor.

Trump is ahead of us and Rove is behind us.

48 posted on 04/16/2011 4:26:33 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: Carley

kook


49 posted on 04/16/2011 4:26:44 PM PDT by Matchett-PI ("Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left to Tax " ~ Gagdad Bob)
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To: Carley

From the clip that I heard, Trump was talking about his deliberations over whether he should run, saying that he thought he would make a great president but that he was afraid that if he ran for the Republican nomination and didn’t get it his competitiveness would get the better of him and he’d run as an independent - which he said would get Obama elected and so that would never do.

My take from what he said was that he thought he should probably only run for the Republican nomination if he felt pretty sure he’d win it, because he DOESN’T want to be a Ross Perot and recognizes that he would be tempted to go for it just because of his competitive streak.

If that’s what he meant, and if that’s true, then it seems like he has a healthy fear of his own ego getting in the way of the country’s good, which is actually sort of refreshing.

I haven’t heard/seen all the clips so maybe there are other clips where he said something different. My thoughts are based on the one clip I heard, which was the one Rush played on his radio broadcast.


50 posted on 04/16/2011 4:27:21 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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