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Posted on 04/17/2011 5:43:34 AM PDT by mitch77
QUOTE: "The political elite and the MSM are doing everything possible to suppress discussion of Obamas ineligibility, pretend that we are not in a Constitutional crisis and allow him to contest the 2012 election"...... This sentence is an outright lie.
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This sentence is an outright lie. The fact is the MSM...(and this means ESPECIALLY the more leftist of the MSM), gives regular play to the birther nonsense. It is a simple fact, and one easily proved by a search of the last 6 months news, that the birther silliness is brought up 10 times by the left for every one it is broached by anyone else in the MSM.
The left created this issue (Hilary Clintons people); and the left uses it to make the right look stupid. They know we can never ever win on this issue.
Pursuit of this issue is a pointless waste of time and energy. Just consider for a moment what it would take to PROVE he was not born here. Because he does not have to prove he was...no no no,the accusers have to prove he was not. What possible evidence could you imagine would ever be so sound, so incontrovertible, that it could not be ripped apart in court. Even if you won it would take a decade with all the appeals.
I challenge every person who is wound up about this to sit down with a good lawyer or law prof. Ask them what it would take to win this. *IF* you do this you'll soon realize that your time would be spent just as well by bashing your forehead into a brick wall.
There are two groups that bring up this silliness over and over; The leftists who dangle it as proof that the right are loons, And the those on the right who are so very obsessed with it they won't take the time to examine the utter futility of it. Not only has their usefulness in dragging us away from the socialist abyss been neutralized, but they are actually helping the enemies of our nation.
We need every sound thinker to stay focused on stopping the marxist agenda being foisted on us. The ship of state is sinking. Every man needs to bail and repair. EVERYONE needs to grasp the fact that there are far more important things to do now than examine the Captains papers. If you want to do that when we drop his ass off on shore fine! Shouting about this might make you feel like you are accomplishing something or standing up for principle. But right now it's as worthwhile an activity as straightening the deck chairs as the Titanic sinks.
There are dozens and dozens of things the people all around us don't know. Glenn Beck made huge inroads by breaking things down for the busy common man and he changed the minds of many. But many more won't go near his stuff because of the leftist stigma. So it's up to us. Get on DIGG, and REDDIT, and PuffyHo and every other MSM site and break down the lies for the mentally challenged leftists who dwell there.. Show the absurdity and destructiveness off BO's policies.
Have you seen the "Immigration gumball" video? Have you seen the penny guy's videos on the stimulus and deficits and health care? (Links below)
These leave leftist speechless. We need to lead the blind, deaf, and really dumb to the pools of healing so they can see the immutable facts. Hurling speculations about his eligibility makes of look silly and weak and leaves us at the mercy of the left.
GOD bless you,
Mitch Graves www.gravesjudo.com
Obama Budget Cuts Visualization 1:38 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWt8hTayupE
Jack Daniels Explains The Deficit 1:39 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rl1xgT3REE
The Obama Stimulus: Predictions vs. Reality 1:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJu0DgpiK8c
What Does The Federal Budget Freeze Look Like? 1:29 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMH9QZdjS2Y
The National Debt Road Trip 2:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yxFtTwDcc
Obama's $17 Billion Budget Cuts In Context 1:31 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIBp7ufxjk
How To Balance the Obama Budget 1:46 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70lkobYY0Hc
CBO Predicts Health Reform Deficit Happiness? Maybe Not 2:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RON09jbubM
Health Care Reform Cost Visualization 1:03 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFV5Tx4LxBM
Obama Health Reform and Wait Times Visualization 2:10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqD-nMpsYAY
So my 29 year old child doesn't have to prove he's qualified to be president? Someone has to prove he isn't?
So if I want to obtain a license to practice medicine or law or some such, I don't have to prove I'm qualified, someone has to prove I am not?
Does it work that way with everything?
Let’s have a gander at his school registration documents, I mean those Obama spent so many taxpayer dollars hiding. If he didn’t register as a Foreign National, that might be pretty convincing for me.
With respect: You are framing the issue improperly.
Your are correct: In the context you describe (i.e., in something like a "court of law"), it would indeed be impossible to "win," since Obama could simply remain silent, while we would have to supply evidence proving that he was NOT a native-born citizen.
It is not possible to proof a negative.
In the realm of public opinion, however, it would be all means possible to "win" our case - by applying so much public pressure and by subjecting Obama to so much public ridicule and embarrassment that he would not only have to explicitly deny the allegation, but also to explain WHY he cannot/will not produce the requisite Long-Form Certificate of Live Birth, WHETHER he ever held a different nationality (e.g., British, through his father; Indonesian, through his step-father) or used a foreign passport, etc.
So the Constitution is a waste of time to you?
The fact is that the MSM, the Courts and the two political parties are doing everything they can to avoid dealing with the....
Constitution of the United States.
This is nothing new. They have been tramplng all over the Constitution since the beginning of the Progressive movement.
If you want to push an anti-Constitution agenda then you came to wrong place.
The Progressive movement is pushing for open borders, weakened definitions of citizenship, a destruction of the Electoral College, and the redefinition of the Constitution clause for Presidential eligibility and yet you claim that it is a non-issue.
Our Constitution and the rule of law demands than I pay attention to this matter.
Without the Constitution and without the rule of law NOTHING else matters.
They're coming out of the woodwork this weekend. Check this guy's posting history. What made him pop up now?
Oh and add to the list above that the Progressive movement also seeks to ignore laws like the Logan Act thus producing another level of foreign collusion for politicians who seek to be Commander in Chief.
Obama not only had dual citizenship at birth but also clearly demonstrated it alldiences to Kenya by illegally violating the Logan Act and campaigning in Kenya for someone closely related to him.
Yet the MSM and both political parties have given cover to those who violate this law. Now the democrats have run two Presidential candidates in a row who blatantly violated this law and showed foreign allegiances.
Yet to you all of this is a non-issue. Pathetic.
“This sentence is an outright lie.”
No it is not.
“The fact is the MSM...(and this means ESPECIALLY the more leftist of the MSM), gives regular play to the birther nonsense. It is a simple fact, and one easily proved by a search of the last 6 months news, that the birther silliness is brought up 10 times by the left for every one it is broached by anyone else in the MSM.”
This is not a fact. It is incoherent rubbish. Who the hell is “anyone else in the MSM?” They’re all Democrats or RINOS. And if you think the Constitution is “silliness” then I wonder what you’re doing posting on Free Republic. That the President of this country is probably not Constitutionally eligible should be a matter of great concern to every true patriot.
“The left created this issue (Hilary Clintons people); and the left uses it to make the right look stupid.”
We are not “looking stupid”, and we have never looked stupid. This is a myth generated by the Democrats and anyone with a lick of sense doesn’t buy into it.
“they are actually helping the enemies of our nation.”
Nope, that’s you, white-anting the constitution and the resolve of patriots who will not stand for a fake President with divided loyalties. I detest your weak submission to the myths of the left wing, and I don’t like Beck for the same reason. You take whatever path you choose, but Obama’s constitutional eligibility is not “silliness” and we will win. With your help or without it.
And don’t call me a damn “birther”. Its an offensive term designed to bracket me with the loons who think 9/11 was an inside job, and I object strongly to such an association.
The requirement of natural-born citizenship of a U.S. President was a crucial point from the founding of this nation and still is. It is because of the unique founding principles of the United States which were unprecedented in history.
Foreigners don't stow away in cargo containers or float to our shores on rubber inner tubes because America is nothing special.
Foreigners don't clamor for green card alien status in the U.S. because we are just another option for a place to live.
This country is a one-of-a-kind refuge for liberty and economic opportunity the likes of which the world has never before seen.
Nothing will undermine the unique character of this country faster than a foreigner bringing the failed ideologies of other countries into this country to impose upon us and gaining power to impose those foreign failures upon us.
This country was not broken so it doesn't need to be "fixed" to conform to the tyrannies found elsewhere.
You are actually making that very argument.
It is not a waste of time to demand proof of citizenship from Obama. If this point is conceded, it will never again be a valid issue to raise against any candidate for the presidency.
It is a requirement of the constitution and we are supposed to be a "nation of laws, not of men."
You are wrong on this.
This goes to the heart of our fate being guided by law and not by the emotion of the moment and the popularity of any given "silver-tongued devil" politician whose skill in deceit might manipulate the citizens to ignore the laws under which this country has been guided successfully for so long.
This is more of a melt down situation occurring presently.
It is so cool, I want to take the day off to watch it on the net; But will go in and watch people fall apart in real time.
I love the twentysomething college kids.
The chair is not my son.