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How Donald Trump Lost the Black Vote
Henry Louis Gates' "The Root" ^ | 15 April | Swerdlick

Posted on 04/18/2011 6:26:35 AM PDT by flowerplough

(lotsa prefacing trash, but gets to the proper point)

... where we are these days with Donald Trump -- in a matter of weeks, he's propelled himself into the "I wish a motherf***** would" phase of his as-yet-undeclared presidential campaign. He's talked enough smack about President Barack Obama that it's time, as Bill Cosby demanded last week on Today, for Trump to run or just "shut up." It's time that Trump talked about Obama to his face.

After a monthlong "Birther" tour that stopped at Good Morning America, O'Reilly and The View to deposit the recycled claim that under Obama, "this country is going to hell," and Trump's thoroughly debunked "doubts" about Obama's citizenship -- including his theory that the first black president's white grandparents fudged his birth records to get him on welfare -- this week Trump went on Fred Dicker's radio show and presented the caveat that he's got "a great relationship with the blacks."

Not anymore. Let's shoot it straight: Plenty of black folks appreciate a blunt-talking guy dipped in expensive suits, as much as -- if not more -- than the next person. If Trump had coupled his reality-TV and Twitter-friendly style with the tolerant social views and "You can have all this, too" team-of-me ethos that he once touted, he could have been the one candidate in the 2012 Republican field to peel away a few black votes from Obama.

While African Americans still support Obama at an 85 percent clip, contrary to popular belief, black America can roll with a lot of the criticism about the president's leadership. But once Trump started arguing that Obama wasn't American, whatever goodwill he had in blackworld up and vanished.

If Trump is even wondering, here's why his passport to black America is probably canceled:

"The Blacks"

(Excerpt) Read more at theroot.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: mrskippy

1 posted on 04/18/2011 6:26:39 AM PDT by flowerplough
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To: flowerplough

Assuming that Trump runs as anything other than a Democrat, would he have ever had it in order to have lost it?


2 posted on 04/18/2011 6:28:58 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: flowerplough

Being born white has a little something to do with it.


3 posted on 04/18/2011 6:30:13 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: pnh102

Yeah, the point is moot.


4 posted on 04/18/2011 6:30:13 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: flowerplough

Donald lost the black vote because he’s a successful white man standing up to the black guy that’s throwing hardworking taxpayer’s money at them.

Duh...


5 posted on 04/18/2011 6:30:31 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: flowerplough

My, oh my! This is certainly troubling!


6 posted on 04/18/2011 6:30:53 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: flowerplough

Could we just get on with ‘judging by character and not by the color of the skin.’ ??? Let the candidates speak the Truth, and those who recognize it will follow. Those who need their ears tickled by falsehoods will not.


7 posted on 04/18/2011 6:31:08 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: flowerplough

The only reason Donald would lose the black vote is because he is not black..There I have said it..You know any intelligent black or white man are still looking into the who Donald trump really is and how can anyone know he has lost the black vote when he hasn’t even said he is running just hinted at it..

People stop listening to the Media they will make you crazy..Make up your own mind and do the research yourself..


8 posted on 04/18/2011 6:31:47 AM PDT by PLD
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To: flowerplough
There is NOTHING Trump can do to get the Black vote away from Obama. The only rational action is to not even try.

The Repubs will win or lose based on their ability to get THEIR base to be enthused enough to show up and vote. Pandering to Obama's base will get minimal response, and lose the Repub base's enthusiasm. Best to not even try.

9 posted on 04/18/2011 6:34:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: flowerplough

He lost it when they discovered he is white and might be a republican? Could it be blacks are racist?


10 posted on 04/18/2011 6:34:52 AM PDT by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: PLD

If you think you might support Trump for President if he runs, you soon won’t, at least if you’re a conservative. Listen:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/04/sound-trumpet.html


11 posted on 04/18/2011 6:35:52 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("We must have universal healthcare...I'm a liberal on this one." - D. Trump, "America We Deserve")
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To: flowerplough

to think Trump ever had a shot at the black vote up against Obama, Prof. Gates would have to have attended a few too many beer summits...


12 posted on 04/18/2011 6:36:21 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: All

He shouldn’t waste ONE PENNY on trying to reach black voters.


13 posted on 04/18/2011 6:36:37 AM PDT by Maverick68
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To: PLD

If the majority of voters had done their research, we wouldn’t have Obummer as Pres..ent right now. The majority of voters don’t have the time nor inclination to work to find out the facts. WE knew how Zero would rule and WE didn’t vote for him. Many people still think Big Media spins for the Conservatives. I’m not kidding. Clueless and stupid is no way to go through life, son (paraphrase)


14 posted on 04/18/2011 6:37:10 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: flowerplough

He lost it when he said he was Republican. Screw ‘em....


16 posted on 04/18/2011 6:40:05 AM PDT by freebilly
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I have not said I would support Trump..On other thread I did say I was warming up to him since it seemed he is the only one investigating Obama and his communist gang..At this time I am still hoping Sarah Palin is going to run..
17 posted on 04/18/2011 6:40:22 AM PDT by PLD
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To: flowerplough

98% of black voters are going to vote for Obama no matter who runs against him. Mainly because he’s black, and he has that stash of “Obama money” to spread around.


18 posted on 04/18/2011 6:41:58 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: flowerplough

From one day to the next, Americans don’t know what to call THIS minority group, because THIS minority group has not decided who or what they are or want to be.

Why can’t they decide? Because being American is NOT enough for them as it is for All OTHER Americans!!!

• Have you sold yourself to the enemies of the United States?
• If you HAVE, what America would you rather see, INSTEAD of this prosperous, secure and racially inclusive one you hate so much?
• Do you (after 30+ years of gov’t. give away’s and Affirmative Action) feel you have NO STAKE in this country?
• Will you give up the ‘victim’ meal ticket to endless entitlements and get with the program? (Of course, you’ll have to FINALLY assimilate)
• Do YOU ever look at your paycheck and wonder where the tax orgy will end?

Decide who you are already!!!


19 posted on 04/18/2011 6:42:08 AM PDT by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: PLD

Go listen to the clips. I hope everyone will. It is jaw-dropping how Trump the lib is playing us all for fools.

Trump in his own words:

http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2011/04/sound-trumpet.html


20 posted on 04/18/2011 6:42:37 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("We must have universal healthcare...I'm a liberal on this one." - D. Trump, "America We Deserve")
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To: bereanway

Forget the 14% black population if you are white, the rest of us have given the blacks everything and then some.

This including a “magic negro” POTUS-TOTUS to show the whole USA how that race thinks and leads!

The dims have only fringe nuts to carry this train wreck ahead.


21 posted on 04/18/2011 6:45:41 AM PDT by tiger63
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To: flowerplough

He’s probably lost the red and pink vote, too.


22 posted on 04/18/2011 6:46:23 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: originalbuckeye

I totally agree with you..I did do my research on Obama as I did and do on other candidates and I do wish others would do the same.. The only reason I voted for McCain was because of Sarah Palin..There was no other choice out there at the time other than Obama or McCain.That is the reason McCain did get as many votes as he did I think it was because of Sarah..


23 posted on 04/18/2011 6:47:53 AM PDT by PLD
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To: flowerplough
Oh Good. Henry Louis Gates of Beer Summit notoriety weighs in.

The symbol of affirmative action grievance nonsense politics shows up to smear Trump, as he carries water for The Kenyan.

Yawn.

24 posted on 04/18/2011 6:50:05 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: flowerplough

Harvard Professor Henry “Do you know who I am!?” Gates rep r’sentn’ the bruthas? If George Will is a spokesmodel for the Tea Party.


25 posted on 04/18/2011 6:55:00 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: flowerplough

To be blunt, the only way for republicans to get even a portion of the black vote is to run a black candidate.


26 posted on 04/18/2011 6:56:30 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Regulator

H.L.Gates really writes “I wish a mother****** would”?

This is a harvard professor isn’t it? Nice ghetto language. What a loser.


27 posted on 04/18/2011 7:00:57 AM PDT by rokkitapps
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To: DManA
To be blunt, the only way for republicans to get even a portion of the black vote is to run a black candidate.

A black Republican is by definition an "Uncle Tom". In a race between LtCol. Allan West and a liberal white Democrat, the black vote would 90% go to the white Democrat.

28 posted on 04/18/2011 7:01:12 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: flowerplough

I don’t think any white guy or gal is getting the black vote anytime soon. I doubt that Trump is losing any sleep over it.


29 posted on 04/18/2011 7:02:44 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rokkitapps

His Harvard bio page reads like something from the Wizard of Oz. All the honorary degrees, honors, non-accomplishments...his language paints him for who he really is: a ghetto hustler.


30 posted on 04/18/2011 7:04:41 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

I just listened to the tape..It is what everyone need s to listen to..I plan to send it to my email list and tell them not to vote for this two faced old man..We do not need another Soro’s in the white house..

Mark Levine is a favorite of mine and I do believe him..and to hear the tapes that puts a final nail in Trumps coffin..


31 posted on 04/18/2011 7:05:14 AM PDT by PLD
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To: pnh102
Trump could have personally kissed every black ass in America, and bought them all new rims for their rides and still lost 95% of the black vote to Obama.

Face it, the blacks are just to racist to not vote for Obama. Their racism blinds them to Obama, just like I blinded them to OJ and to Marion Barry.

32 posted on 04/18/2011 7:05:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: flowerplough

He never had it to lose. What a bogus story.


33 posted on 04/18/2011 7:05:55 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yes, I agree that the black vote is lost....however....

I would like to see a long term conservative outreach by way of advertising, community town halls, lectures, going into the churches, sending black youth to conservative colleges, conservative private K-12 schools, free summer camps for kids, etc., in an effort to turn this group of people around.


34 posted on 04/18/2011 7:08:03 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: wintertime

Forget Trump...he will not run...he would have to disclose his finances..


35 posted on 04/18/2011 7:10:39 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

This is the Beer summit guy???


36 posted on 04/18/2011 7:11:45 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: flowerplough

———While African Americans still support Obama at an 85 percent clip, ———

By my calculations back in 2000, the tipping point was 88%. Below that point the black advantage disappears. If true, the advantage is lost and energy and money must be expended to regain it. that energy and money must be diverted from the main assault.


37 posted on 04/18/2011 7:14:10 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: PLD

I have always liked Palin, but my vote for McCain was more of a vote against Zero. That’s the way I have voted for many years. The Lesser of the two Evils. I hope my vote in 2012 is actually, honestly FOR our candidate.


38 posted on 04/18/2011 7:16:09 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: flowerplough

Why should he care? Blacks are not going to vote for ‘Pubbies, esp. a White ‘Pubbie, in any significant numbers while Obama is running.


39 posted on 04/18/2011 7:18:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Little Ray
Why should he care? Blacks are not going to vote for ‘Pubbies, esp. a White ‘Pubbie, in any significant numbers while Obama is running.

In accounting, this is known as a "Sunk Cost."

40 posted on 04/18/2011 7:19:34 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: wintertime

All good ideas.


41 posted on 04/18/2011 7:21:29 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: flowerplough

“It’s time that Trump talked about Obama to his face.”

LOL! As if Zero would allow himself to be within 50 miles of Trump.

The @ssclown who wrote this also said something about Trump lost the black vote when he started saying that Zero isn’t an American.

HELLO!!!!!!! Trump never said that. All he has said is that there’s something not right about the BC. And so goes the media’s concerted effort to protect the Poser in Chief NO MATTER WHAT.


42 posted on 04/18/2011 7:25:28 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: flowerplough
Color does matter, Henry, huh? /s =.=
43 posted on 04/18/2011 7:31:58 AM PDT by cranked
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To: flowerplough
and Trump's thoroughly debunked "doubts" about Obama's citizenship...,.

******

"Debunked"?

It fascinates me how pro-Obama supporters---tv people and media columnists ----continually use the word "debunked" when referring to the Obama long form birth certificate controversy and to the questions as to where Obama was born as if it is a long accepted FACT, when, in reality, nothing has been "debunked" at all.

1. I guess they are trying to use some kind of amateurish psychological brainwashing technique on the public: They believe that if they use the word "debunked" over and over again and long enough, people will start to believe that Obama's long form birth certificate controversy must surely have been "debunked" a long time ago if a lot of smart journalists and tv people say it is. What rubbish.

2. Really, what do these "debunked" supporters have as evidence that Obama's long form birth certificate controversy has been "debunked", or that it has even come close to being so-called "debunked"?

a. Newspaper birth announcements 1961: This is the evidence that most pro-Obama people cite as concrete proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii to the Obama family.

b. However, 1961 is so long ago that people living today in Hawaii but who were not living back then cannot be absolutely sure if non-hospital births were mixed in with hospital births when the Health Dept. sent its birth list to the two newspapers in 1961. Of course, many people who could tell us what happened at the Health Dept and the newswpapers way back in 1961 are dead now, sad to say.

3. Obama's short form birth certificate on his own website that we saw in 2008: Really, when pro-Obama supporters cite this source as proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii to the Obama family, I can't help laughing, because this Obama short form "birth certificate" has so much controversy surrounding it---where's the seal? Was it tampered with before it was displayed on the website, and on and on---- that this source could be the weakest evidence that pro-Obama supporters could cite as proof beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama is who he says he is and that the Obama long form birth certificate has been "debunked". Too funny.

4. Myself, I can't think of other supposedly strong evidence that pro-Obama people use to argue that the Obama long form birth certificate controversy has been "debunked".

5. If I missed other arguments/evidence that pro-Obama writers and tv people use to prove that Obama's long form birth certificate controversy has been "debunked", please let me know.

6. Of course, coward and liar Obama could easily "debunk" all the anti-Obama controversy surrounding his long form birth certificate with one simple act on his part: He could authorize Hawaii officials to release his long and short form birth certificates to the public today.

7. Of course, that will never happen, because you and I know that the suspicion is growing more and more as Trump attacks Obama each day that an Obama long form birth certificate, sad to say, does not exist.

44 posted on 04/18/2011 7:43:47 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: pnh102
African American voters have NOTHING to withhold from Republican candidates anymore.

The political market place has already discounted the value of the black vote for Republicans and made adjustments.

45 posted on 04/18/2011 7:44:14 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: flowerplough

Odd analysis.

“The Blacks” was an odd statement, but it’s very Donald. He says things in odd ways.

Herman Cain is not a threat to Trump, and Cain himself would probably get the same percentage of the black vote as any other Republican, maybe 3% more tops.

Trump does (did?) have some “black cred” but was never going to win more than 5% of blacks vs. Obama no matter what.


46 posted on 04/18/2011 8:31:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (I didn't see Swedish people knocking down the World Trade Center - The Donald)
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To: flowerplough

When an ethnic group votes 85 percent on ethnic grounds, isn’t that racism?


47 posted on 04/18/2011 8:50:22 AM PDT by Malesherbes (- Sauve qui peut)
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To: flowerplough

How much of the black vote is there to lose? Ninety-six percent voted for Obama in the last election.


48 posted on 04/18/2011 8:51:19 AM PDT by RINOs suck
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To: flowerplough; All

I guess you can add the racist Henry Louis Gates to the list of Obama Supporters who are on the attack campaign against Trump

So many of Soros boys on here yesterday attacking Trump with the “Trump-Soros” stuff (anyone who voted for McCain or Obama in 2008 voted for a Soros candidate).

I guess the Phony-Left is worn out...now they got the lunatic “Lets Drink A Beer” fringe to do some Trump-hate work


49 posted on 04/18/2011 11:04:10 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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To: PapaBear3625

The Repubs will win or lose based on their ability to get THEIR base to be enthused enough to show up and vote. Pandering to Obama’s base will get minimal response, and lose the Repub base’s enthusiasm. Best to not even try.


100% Correct

The GOP needs to stop going after minorities (especially Hispanics with Illegal Alien Amnesty) and concentrate on their base

And now the GOP is doing that with the Birther issue.

Its like the GOP is already throwing the election to Obama


50 posted on 04/18/2011 11:06:48 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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