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Stockpiling food against economic uncertainty
Los Angeles Times via (Tacoma) The News Tribune ^ | 4/15/11 | FAYE FIORE

Posted on 04/18/2011 8:48:01 AM PDT by Kartographer

The laundry room of Tamara Huffman’s split-level here in the Shenandoah Valley is filling up with cheese powder and freeze-dried ham, at the ready should her husband, Brian, lose his job anytime in the next 25 years. She carves a little bit out of their already tight budget every month to buy some more.

This sort of stockpiling was once the purview of survivalists preparing for Armageddon. But Huffman’s fear isn’t the end of the world so much as the $5 basket of grape tomatoes she bypassed the other day at her local supermarket.

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Tami Huffman is larding her Tom Brooks, Va., basement with freeze-dried, dehydrated and canned foods. She’s preparing not for a natural disaster, but an economic one as food prices rise and recession fears endure.

I have to wonder what these people are going to do now that they have throw OPSEC aside and let every 'grasshopper' for miles around know that they have stores?
1 posted on 04/18/2011 8:48:04 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

Bump.


2 posted on 04/18/2011 8:49:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Kartographer

Pretty dumb to let the world know whose house to loot when food runs short.


3 posted on 04/18/2011 8:50:36 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Kartographer

I’m sure if they were smart enough to store some food they are also smart enough to stockpile some precious metals, like brass and lead.


4 posted on 04/18/2011 8:52:10 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; Blue Jays; ...

PING!!!!


5 posted on 04/18/2011 8:53:01 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; Blue Jays; ...

PING!!!!


6 posted on 04/18/2011 8:53:31 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: JAKraig

Brass, lead and a large garden. You can’t grow everything but you can sure put stuff up to help.


7 posted on 04/18/2011 8:54:36 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Mr. Silverback

Dear la times: why did the light bulb factory close?


8 posted on 04/18/2011 8:57:10 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: JAKraig

Don’t forget yer blued steel and copper .....

;-)


9 posted on 04/18/2011 8:58:12 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Kartographer
Not unlike the generation that survived the Great Depression and spent the rest of their lives pinching pennies, some middle-class Americans have developed a sense of thrift that is lasting even as the economic crisis loosens its grip. The so-called Great Recession was declared officially over last fall, yet consumer confidence – or lack of it – remains consistent with an economy in deep trouble.

I guess I missed the memo about all being hunky dory again. Sounds like whistling past the graveyard to me. A little hunger will change the subtly snarky attitude of the 'journalist.'
10 posted on 04/18/2011 9:00:03 AM PDT by rpierce (We have taglines now? :)
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To: Beelzebubba
Agree -
Rule No. 1: "Don't advertise"
11 posted on 04/18/2011 9:02:20 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Kartographer

Today’s To-Do List already had:

check transplants - done
prune tomatoes
water garden
re-arrange pantry


12 posted on 04/18/2011 9:07:27 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Kartographer

Not much of a stash from what it shows in that jpg... She better get hoppin on her dooms day shoppin!


13 posted on 04/18/2011 9:07:27 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: Kartographer

more Mormon-bashing from the LA Times?


14 posted on 04/18/2011 9:09:16 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No not really, but it funny how more and more of these stories are be printed in the ‘lamestream’ media and with a far less ‘tin foil hat’ smirk than I can remember ever seeing in the past.


15 posted on 04/18/2011 9:13:15 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

A solar dehydrator, lots of canned good,great neighbors and miles away from the city and plenty of lead...........just saying:)


16 posted on 04/18/2011 9:13:37 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: RC2

Brass, lead and a large garden...

to bury the bodies in?

How good a fertilizer is the human body, anyway?


17 posted on 04/18/2011 9:16:03 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kartographer
I've been thinking of canning dried rice and beans. My idea is to put it in canning jars and put it in the oven for a half hour at about 170 degrees to kill any bugs and eggs and then put the lids on it before it cools. That would create a vacuum inside to keep it from getting contaminated.

We tried keeping rice in the original plastic bags, but it had weevils in it within a couple of months.

Anyone ever tried this or have any advice?

18 posted on 04/18/2011 9:16:52 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: MrB

Not supposed to put meat products into the compost pile.

;)


19 posted on 04/18/2011 9:18:35 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: MrB

Nope....leave em where they lie.


20 posted on 04/18/2011 9:19:32 AM PDT by RC2
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To: mbynack

Invest in a Seal-a-meal or some such vacuum-sucking gizmo.

Freeze your product for 2 weeks (kills bugs and eggs) and repackage into vacuum bags.

Or put into vacuum bags and then freeze it. Take it out after 2 weeks and stack in your pantry.


21 posted on 04/18/2011 9:21:39 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: mbynack
I've been thinking of canning dried rice and beans. My idea is to put it in canning jars and put it in the oven for a half hour at about 170 degrees to kill any bugs and eggs and then put the lids on it before it cools. That would create a vacuum inside to keep it from getting contaminated.

Did exactly that. But being one to over do just about everything, I also froze the grains and beans for a couple of days first (this also kills the bugs, supposedly). Then dried in the oven. Then added an oxygen absorber before sealing the jars. Probably way too much effort - and any one of the 3 methods would've sufficed ;)
22 posted on 04/18/2011 9:23:36 AM PDT by CottonBall
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To: MrB

1 body = 150 fish or 800 fish heads.


23 posted on 04/18/2011 9:24:53 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: mbynack
Put the rice in the frezzer for 48 hours and then in food grade 5 gallon buckets with mylar bags add oxygen absorbers and then heat seal.

NOTE TO OTHERS:If you haven’t already you need to start prepared now. I truely believe that time is growing short very short. I believe within the next six months we will see a economic collapse much like that of Argentina’s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6_i8zuffs For more information on living in a collapse economy I strongly suggest that you read Ferfal’s blog SURVIVING IN ARGENTINA: http://ferfal.blogspot.com And remember as a armed society and one which contains a much more violent crimial and entitlement minded element our collapse is far more likely to be much more violent than Argentina’s was/is. For those who would like to get started preparing I have updated my Preparedness Manual and added the following sections: 19. A Highly-Mobility 72 Hour Kit-by Ward Dorrity 55. Step by Step Earthbag Construction-by Dr. Owen Geiger Thanks to eaker it can be down loaded at: http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf
24 posted on 04/18/2011 9:25:19 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Even if you store a 2 year supply, there are two problems.

One, you’re 5 years short.
Two, as soon as your starving neighbors find out you’ve got a stash of food, they’ll kill you and take your food.


25 posted on 04/18/2011 9:26:19 AM PDT by lurk
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To: FrogMom

Your aquaculture fish would eat the maggots...


26 posted on 04/18/2011 9:26:51 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: mbynack
Check out the Pump-n-Seal . When I open a bucket of rice, etc., I divide it into canning jars and then seal them. I use the Pump-n-Seal on all kinds of jars and really love it. Weavils shouldn't be a problem unless you live in a high humidity area. You can easily keep weavils at bay, by inserting a few bay leaves in each container...works well with flour, etc. Dry jars in the oven sounds dangerous...but I'm not a canning expert.
27 posted on 04/18/2011 9:27:45 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: lurk

Some people die hard than others. Especially those that have prepared are eating good and heve the tools and the talent to use them.


28 posted on 04/18/2011 9:28:43 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: FrogMom

Thanks. We just put in a pretty good garden and still have canned goods from last year. Even if the economy doesn’t go south, the price of food is going up faster than salaries so we haven’t lost anything by putting away something for a rainy day.


29 posted on 04/18/2011 9:31:23 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: CottonBall; mbynack

We have been carrying dry beans and rice, barley and oats on our boat for years. We just drop a bay leaf into each container. No bugs.


30 posted on 04/18/2011 9:32:39 AM PDT by Chuckster (When I was a kid, this was a free country)
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To: Beelzebubba

Indeed what was that address again?.


31 posted on 04/18/2011 9:36:19 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: mbynack

With a “pretty good garden”, you need a dehydrator and canning supplies.


32 posted on 04/18/2011 9:36:53 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: mbynack

The seal-a-meal appliance has a special lid you can use with their vacuum pump to vacuum seal canning jars without heating the contents.

You could take up to 1 gallon sized jars filled with the grains and then vacuum seal them.

I’ve read somewhere that some people put a chunk of dry ice into jars before sealing them to replace oxygen with carbon dioxide to prolong the shelf life.

Haven’t tried it, maybe someone on the forum has?


33 posted on 04/18/2011 9:37:02 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: FrogMom

As Sipsy in Fried Green Tomatoes said, “The secret’s in the sauce.”

Hubby went on a trip last week and raided the emergency bag. He took everything but the canned pet food. That’s fine, that needed to be rotated anyway so now to restock it.

If the woman in the article isn’t following a frugal lifestyle then she’s not maximizing the effort. Too many now days throw out more food than they eat. Here, dinner last night (and lunch today) was using up leftovers. Had a bit of pork roast and a bit of a bbq chicken breast that wasn’t enough for a meal so chopped it up, added store bought and home garden grown veggies, and made mu shu pork/chicken. Am muching down on it as I type, yuuuum. Waste not, want not.


34 posted on 04/18/2011 9:39:21 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Beelzebubba
"Pretty dumb to let the world know whose house to loot when food runs short."

That is what guns and ammo are for.

35 posted on 04/18/2011 9:43:04 AM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Kartographer

Link for my Preparedness Manual fixed!

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf


36 posted on 04/18/2011 9:44:16 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: mbynack
A one inch square of Triple ZERO (000) pure steel wool, three or four drops of water on it to create rust inside of a small plastic bag with some small holes in the bag is the same thing as an oxygen absorber pack used in food storage. The process of creating rust absorbs oxygen.
37 posted on 04/18/2011 9:46:16 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Kartographer

My next door neighbor is one of those cat-lady types.

She buys the litter in these large (must be about 2 1/2 gallon) HDPE plastic jugs.

And saves them for me, I got 14 more yesterday.

I already have a bunch filled with sugar, Non-Fat dry milk, dried shredded potatoes, you name it.

I’m running out of space to store stuff!

At first I’m thinking I should stock up because of the economic possibilities.
Then I start thinking it’s also nice to have stuff stored that ISN’T RADIOACTIVE!!!

And all the naysayers and people who want to call me some kind of doom-monger can just KISS MY BUTT!!


38 posted on 04/18/2011 9:48:04 AM PDT by djf (Dems and liberals: Let's redefine "marriage". We already redefined "natural born citizen".)
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To: djf
And all the naysayers and people who want to call me some kind of doom-monger can just KISS MY BUTT!!

Don't stress over it djf, be a proud up standing Doom Monger like me! ;-)
39 posted on 04/18/2011 9:51:12 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I may misunderstand your meaning. Five gallons of dried rice is a gigantic amount of rice when cooked. Unused rice could spoil before its used up. Packing and storing one week's worth of dried rice might be more prudent.
40 posted on 04/18/2011 9:52:12 AM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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41 posted on 04/18/2011 9:53:59 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Kartographer

I am stocked up but still adding more.

I have two storage 10x20 where I store stuff I don’t room for and a section in both that is strictly for prep. They are 50 miles apart, so I should be able to reach at least one if have to.

I am stocked for 3 months to support 4 people at my office.

At home I have somewhere between 9 months and a year worth of everything except TP, though we have plenty of that and cut shop towels into wipe sizes. Just need to setup a system for disposal and cleaning of them if that time comes but, I grew in the diaper age and know what to do.

Part of anyone’s prep should be bathroom gloves. Not those cheap yellow ones, though I admit I have about 30 pair, but the strudy blue ones that don’t rip and tear so easily.

I have 15 pair of those and about 100 green scrub pads, which I get Home Depot.

For sponges I buy the 10 pack at Home Depot and have 5 packs of those. Comes in handy when guests are coming and I don’t want them to see an overused sponge.

I just toss the used one and pull out a nice clean one before they come over.


42 posted on 04/18/2011 9:55:56 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: mbynack

Put the rice in one of those 5 gallon buckets with the sealable lids you can get at Home Depot. Put a pound of dry ice in. Let it sublimate away. Seal the container.

The CO2 kills the little nasties.


43 posted on 04/18/2011 9:56:38 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Beelzebubba

LOL!

They must be new at this.


44 posted on 04/18/2011 9:57:00 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Let's apply the "reasonable man" standard to gun laws. How many would stand?)
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To: Chuckster

I use bay leaves, usually a few in each container, and then re-use them until they are stale. I have only had bugs twice in ten years, and one of the times the rice was already old.

If people rotate, most grains and legumes will easily last three years that way.


45 posted on 04/18/2011 9:57:41 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: JAKraig

And the 10# clubs that turn the brass and lead into projectiles. ;-)


46 posted on 04/18/2011 9:59:14 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: mbynack
We live in a rural Alaskan community, 150 Whites, 28 Indians; 200 miles from nx nearest town and road is closed half the year.

We have been putting in 300 lb seed tatoes for the last 10 years, grow all the carrots & brocculli we need too.

We have always had 2-3 year supply of food due to cost of flying it in. When road isn't washed out and open, we haul truck loads in. I have to keep flour in freezer come summer, but have no problems with can goods lasting 5-6 years, except for fruit like peaches. Alot of our meat is what the land & river provides, but I usually haul in 50 hams and cases of bacon, ect every other year.

We got in the habit of ordering 15 cases of one item every month, whatever is on super sale at Fred Meyer, span ak, or Sams. Usually weighs about 200 lb and costs maybe 75 bucks for shipping, but if I get tuna for 59 cents/can rather than 2 bucks at our local store, I'm good, got 750 cans a few months back.

I have over 100 big tasters choice coffee containers in basement, doesn't go bad, things like that what will really go up in price. Last month I got 15 cases of pie filling, enough for 200 pies. The post office lady laughed, but when she's eatin salmon 24/7, I'll be livin off cherry pie, ha ha. I might have a thousand bucks in shipping of canned goods I bought on sale, but probably 300 cases in basement; and I feel safe that I ain't going to die of starvation anytime soon, ha ha.

Now kids are off at school, we don't use nearly as much. My biggest problem is that it will go bad in about 10 years.

I can see it now, We'll burn the wooden bridges 50 miles down the road to our town to keep the Fairbanks ghouls out. Then the Indians who spend every last penny they get from govt on booze will be begging me for food and I'll be feeding them all I have, cause they are good sharing people themselves whatever little they have. Then every last one of them Indians will be crying the blues about being forced to eat dang White Man's Food. ha ha

47 posted on 04/18/2011 10:00:07 AM PDT by Eska
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To: mbynack

I just buy stuff in 25# bags, put in 4 or 5 gallon buckets right away and put bay leaves on the bottom, in the middle, and on the top, and snap the lid on. I keep the buckets in a cool place. I use masking tape to write the contents and date, and rotate. When I open a bucket to use, I scoop out into gallon or half gallon jars and re-fill as needed.

I rotate and am currently using rice, oatmeal, lentils etc from 2008 and they’re fine. As I mentioned above, only had bugs twice.

What you don’t want to do is store anything in original bags. Or bags at all.


48 posted on 04/18/2011 10:00:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I missed the part where they bashed the Mormons...


49 posted on 04/18/2011 10:02:34 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Kartographer

prepare bump


50 posted on 04/18/2011 10:03:00 AM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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