Skip to comments.Brewer vetoes birther, campus gun bills
Posted on 04/18/2011 6:15:48 PM PDT by RBW in PA
Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer vetoed a bill Monday that would have required presidential candidates to provide their birth certificates to appear on the ballot, and another that would have allowed guns to be carried on school grounds.
(Excerpt) Read more at tucsonsentinel.com ...
Eric “My People” Holder has his boot on her.
Who got to her?
I’m praying for strength ...
The sound of balls hitting the floor.
A terrible sound. Once they are gone ,Never to be regained.
Before you get your panties in a wad; she didn’t want the Sec of State to have all the power in deciding elections. Remember Soros?
I’d be interested to hear if she had any statement issued with the vetoes. Last I heard, the Birth Certificate bill was watered down to require a “Certificate of Live Birth”, and not a long form birth certificate. If that’s true, she did the right thing to veto it, and say “Send it back to me requiring a real birth certificate.”
and she just gave a dumb reason for the birth certificate issue....that was a no brainer as the Constitution demands it already. She is the idiot I always believed her to be...
“In addition, I never imagined being presented with a bill that could require candidates for President (sic) of the greatest and most powerful nation on earth to submit their “early baptismal or circumcision certificates” among other records to the Arizona Secretary of State. This is a bridge too far,” Brewer wrote.”
This is apples and oranges. WTH is going on with Brewer?
Excerpt from Tucson Sentinel:
“”As a former Secretary of State (sic), I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to artibrary or politically-motivated decisions,” Brewer wrote in her veto message to House Speaker Kirk Adams.”
She vetoed that bill. What do you think of her reason - too much authority for the SofS?
Go to the link - she did leave comments attached with her vetoes.
And the better idea is what?
I want to vomit! Who would have thought that Jan Brewer was nothing but a weak Janet Napolitano wannabe. What the hell is wrong with this country?
On the other hand the folks behind the bills have a supermajority sufficient to pass the bills without her assent (or so I've heard on FR this very day).
This actually gives more power to the Sec’t of State as there has to be no actual proof offered of qualifications...exactly why people are disturbed over this situation with Obama.
WTH is going on with Brewer?
She’s been talking to Karl Rove.
Now this doesn't make sense.
So what you're telling us Brewer that an obvious foreigner can get on the state presidential ballot? If not, then the SoS is a gate keeper. If the answer is yes that the Secretary of State would keep an obvious foreigner off the state ballots then you do have standards. What you're really saying governor that you are against any higher standards? Or there is not any state ballot standards and you want to keep it that way.
They did go too far if they were asking for circumcision and baptismal certificates in addition to birth certificates.
All the sudden a mortar round of kinetic energy on the subject just drops right off the scope. Again, and again, and again................
"As a former Secretary of State (sic), I do not support designating one person as the gatekeeper to the ballot for a candidate, which could lead to artibrary or politically-motivated decisions," Brewer wrote in her veto message to House Speaker Kirk Adams."
"Bills impacting our Second Amendment rights have to be crystal clear so that gun owners don't become lawbreakers by accident," she wrote in her veto message to Senate President Russell Pearce. The bill didn't define the "public right of way" where weapons could be carried on school campuses, and included K-12 schools where firearms are prohibited by federal law, Brewer wrote. While the bill was "widely advertised" as applying to colleges and universities, it expressly superceded a law that allows school districts to enforce prohibitions against weapons on school grounds, she wrote"
If the AZ Senate and House vote the same way, there was enough votes to override Brewer’s veto.
Calm down people. Wait til the whole story is available.
FRer’s are just a little too quick on the draw these days. Hmmm
No, the bill asked for a birth certificate.
So I guess the question is, will they us the super majority to pass them?? I’m curious about her comments on the Gun rights one - if she is right, then Pearce should probably re-write it cuz it sounds like she’ll sign it.
No she’s not!
Unlike the various kneejerk comments on this thread, I’m going to reserve judgement about Brewer’s veto until the dust settles and we know more about the devil that no doubt lies in the details. She may be playing chess when everyone else is assuming the game is checkers.
So her solution is what? No standards?
Me too. After I heard that I was not so concerned about the bill.
I say Kudos Jan!
My thought exactly!
Those other documents were to be acceptable if the original birth certificate could not be produced. It is a very similar list of documents that are acceptable when applying for a passport if a bc can not be produced.
Isn’t the SoS’s office, in each state, always the gatekeeper to ballot access?
Flippin’ RINOs. They’re going to be the death of the republic yet.
But, I have to say, even though I support these bills for the purposes of clearing up any possible misunderstanding, I have to ask the question: Why do we need a bill in order to get our elected officials to simply follow the imperative requirements of our Constitution?
And a second question would be: Why should we think that if they won’t keep their oath to follow the imperative requirements of our Constitution that they would follow any lesser law anyhow?
Practically our entire political and legal class have become lawless.
Remember Jan Brewer WAS the Arizona Secretary of State for the 2008 Presidential election. SHE validated the usurper on Arizona’s ballot. She is implicated in the cover up. Also, the “birther” bill passed both the Arizona House(40 votes) and Senate(20 votes). These numbers constitute a super-majority. JAN CAN BE OVERRIDDEN!!
Curiouser and curiouser.
She says in her veto the bill puts it all in the hands of the one individual, the SOS. IOW I believe she is saying it gives too much power to the SOS who could address the issue with political intent if the SOS is so inclined.
We have to remember it’s not just this case of Obama that would be effected. A Soros Secretary of State project SOS could use the bill for political advantage.
She would approve the bill I think if they rewrite the language so the SOS is not the soul decision maker on the matter.
Thanks for that post.
Not sure I agree with her on the gun issue though.
Her two options were sign or veto. She doesn't write the law she signs it, or not. I happen to agree with her reasoning on the BC law.
From what I read a week ago it was watered down to the point of being able to produce an electric bill to be OK’d.
Wasn’t there some kind of plot underway to co-opt all 50 Secretaries of States, since they have control over elections?
Maybe it would work if the proof of “natural born citizenship” had to be approved by the state supreme court instead ... ?
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