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Britons shot in Florida killed as part of 'gang initiation'
Telegraph ^ | 18 Apr 2011 | Paul Thompson, in Florida and Nick Britten

Posted on 04/18/2011 9:56:01 PM PDT by george76

Two British friends shot dead on a crime-ridden American housing estate were ambushed and murdered, possibly as part of a gang initiation.

James Cooper, 25, and James Kouzaris, 24, were in Florida when they were killed at 3am in a gangland area rarely visited by tourists.

They apparently accepted a lift from someone they met in a bar, thinking they were being driven home.

A 16 year-old, named locally as Shawn Tyson, was charged with their murder. It emerged yesterday that he was freed by a judge last week despite being arrested over an armed robbery.

The bodies of Mr Cooper, a tennis coach who once played Andy Murray, and Mr Kouzaris were found riddled with bullets on a one-way street in the estate, known for drug dealing and gang activity.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: blackcrime; blacks; british; florida; ghetto; holderspeople; murder; tourist; usanextafrica; violence

1 posted on 04/18/2011 9:56:04 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

just great.....thx judge....


2 posted on 04/18/2011 9:57:48 PM PDT by cherry
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To: george76
Sometimes naivete can be fatal.

I bet they were feeling pretty multicultural right up until things went south.

3 posted on 04/18/2011 9:59:42 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (I'm sick of damn idiots)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I am curious why those Icelanders always end up killing innocents.


4 posted on 04/18/2011 10:01:07 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: george76

Sarasota is pretty conservative. I’m sure there must be some lib judges, tho.

They mention in the story he could get the death penalty. FL has the penalty, but thanx to the USSCourt under 18 can’t be executed. That’s sad. This piece of slime looks to be a prime contender for such.

In England they have very bad areas also. These guys should have known better.


5 posted on 04/18/2011 10:03:13 PM PDT by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: george76
Police said the 16-year-old boy, charged with double murder, was believed to live with his mother in the housing estate.

"Housing estate" must be what Brits call their housing projects.

6 posted on 04/18/2011 10:06:37 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Razz Barry

“Housing estate” must be what Brits call their housing projects.


You’re probably right. Those two found out about the American version. A very sad and tragic story.


7 posted on 04/18/2011 10:09:58 PM PDT by unkus
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To: george76

lock the judge up with the savage he turned loose


8 posted on 04/18/2011 10:10:10 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Razz Barry

Makes it sound like something out of a Jane Austen story;) When they realized they were being kidnapped, why didn’t they just break the driver’s neck and push him out of the car? (only works in the movies, I guess. Then again, no one’s ever tried to kidnap me;)


9 posted on 04/18/2011 10:11:57 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: george76

Two British friends shot dead on a crime-ridden American housing estate>>>>>>>>

What they call an estate is a housing project here
Some bleeping estate! lol It’s like the thugs go out on fox hunts and see the Queen from time time


10 posted on 04/18/2011 10:14:44 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: george76
What on earth is an "American Housing Estate?"

Might that be a liberal government built and government supported slum (aka 'public housing')?

11 posted on 04/18/2011 10:16:33 PM PDT by Publius6961 (There has Never been a "Tax On The Rich" that has not reached the middle class)
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To: george76

Nothing good ever happens when you’re out late at night. RIP.


12 posted on 04/18/2011 10:16:58 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: george76

Oh those American chaps live on an estate. Lets visit them for tea and crumpets!


13 posted on 04/18/2011 10:17:55 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: george76

This will do wonders for Florida tourism.


14 posted on 04/18/2011 10:23:46 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Frank_2001
When they realized they were being kidnapped, why didn’t they just break the driver’s neck and push him out of the car? (only works in the movies, I guess.

Silly FReeper! They probably tried, but by the time they realized they were in an American car, and that they were assaulting the front passenger rather than the driver, it was too late.

I have to wonder about the Telegraph's mind reading abilities, that they know the victims "accepted a lift from someone they met in a bar, thinking they were being driven home." Or, did they get that info during a seance? It is just as likely that they were trying to score some drugs, something not at all unheard of in Britain.

In any case, give the little punk a nice dose at state expense, please.

15 posted on 04/18/2011 10:31:37 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: george76

2 white guys killed by a black 16 year old. Nothing to see hear. Move along. Blacks are not racist. Move along....


16 posted on 04/18/2011 10:39:09 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Where is our military?)
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To: george76
"my people are the victims" Photobucket
17 posted on 04/18/2011 10:55:22 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: george76
A 16 year-old, named locally as Shawn Tyson, was charged with their murder. It emerged yesterday that he was freed by a judge last week despite being arrested over an armed robbery.

Just damn. Another Florida judge. Couldn't he have at least sentenced him to a humane, peaceful and pain-free death by deprivation food and water?

What has happened to Florida?

18 posted on 04/18/2011 11:37:25 PM PDT by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: george76; Travis McGee

Black thuggas near the Miami Airport used to lie in wait for eurotourists in the late 80s and 90s to carjack and-or kill them

two killed a German lady in 1992 in her rental car right in front of her mom and two toddler kids for nothing...they knocked her down and drove the car over her head

they later bragged about it at the Dade County Stockade and were high fived by their kinsmen for killing a German since Germans were known to be racist anyhow

rental cars there once had a capital R first...the state finally caught on

this was about the same time the Costa Rican consul’s wife suffered the same fate


19 posted on 04/18/2011 11:52:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (ok...Trump beating on Obama---Sarah----Michelle.....any of them are ok for now---tain't picky)
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To: dennisw
What they call an estate is a housing project here

Some bleeping estate! lol It's like the thugs go out on fox hunts and see the Queen from time time

Some bleeping project! lol It's like the thugs are working for a wonderful and productive future.

Each nation chooses the euphemism most in accord with its culture. the Brits prefer the image of stately buildings and grounds tended lovingly for centuries, the Americans the image of boosting the economic machine. Neither accords to the reality

20 posted on 04/19/2011 12:46:45 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Radioactive plume to hit USA. President Obama and family fly to Brazil)
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To: Oztrich Boy

Known in Scotland as “Schemes” - much more appropriate thatn “estates”


21 posted on 04/19/2011 3:01:17 AM PDT by weegie
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To: cherry

“The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” (Psalm 9:17)

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD;....”(Psalm 33:12a)

“By mercy and truth iniquity is purged: and by the fear of the LORD men depart from evil.” (Proverbs 16:6)

My Prayer: “MAY GOD AWAKE OUR SOULS TO ETERNAL ACCOUNTABILITY”


22 posted on 04/19/2011 3:58:28 AM PDT by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: wardaddy
I remember that robbery and killing spree involving foreign tourists. The governor of Florida at the time (I think it was Lawton Chiles) pulled out all the stops and had every state employee who remotely resembled a law enforcement officer out on patrol on the state's highways. A friend of mine who was a game warden was assigned a regular shift at a rest area on one of the interstates.

I had another friend in high school who was traveling to Germany on a school trip, and the kids were all advised not to wear any clothing with references to Florida (e.g., apparel from the Tampa Bay Bucs, Miami Dolphins, Florida State, University of Miami, etc.) -- for fear of retribution by German 'yutes.

23 posted on 04/19/2011 4:05:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Trailerpark Badass; wardaddy

Yep, the bouoght the multi-culti cultural enrichment hype, and it killed them.


24 posted on 04/19/2011 5:13:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: george76

What a tragedy.

As an aside, I have been to Florida many times (though not for 20+ years), in many different cities. When I heard of this, it made me think of the other tourist killings there like it was yesterday. I think of no other place in the US this way, though big cities are a danger to all...


25 posted on 04/19/2011 10:44:38 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: PghBaldy

beware tha mardi gras ???


26 posted on 04/23/2011 6:09:15 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

Yeah, but I was specifically thinking of the cases of European tourists who took wrong turns in FL, and ended up dead, which were international news events.


27 posted on 04/25/2011 8:47:59 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: Travis McGee

Really ? Do you think they were striking a conscious blow for racial harmony and that’s what got them into trouble ?

Perhaps they were just taking up the offer of a lift home from a bar. Bad judgement, but then alcohol probably doesn’t improve your decision making either.


28 posted on 05/12/2011 2:43:00 AM PDT by Stolly
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To: Publius6961

In the UK a housing estate is just where a developer or group of developers comes along and builds a lot of houses in the same place at the same time. Doesn’t have to be anything to do with the government, and normally are privately owned. Some were built by the state / local government a long time ago....

As opposed to the way houses got built until the 20th century, which were more often individual people building individual houses.


29 posted on 05/12/2011 2:47:59 AM PDT by Stolly
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To: Stolly

Your key word was “conscious.” They were not striking blows for anything. But the lamestream media had not presented them with an accurate picture of reality, so they presumed good motives on feral predataors. Treadwell played with brown bears and gotten eaten, we all called him a fool. We all knew grizzlies were dangerous, and not to play with them. But the MSM presents reality in a dangerously skewed manner when it addresses race. It teaches a generation that grizzlies are warm and fuzzy teddy bears to cuddle. So to speak. It left these two Brits without the defense of accurate knowledge about certain urban risks, such as taking a ride with feral predators.


30 posted on 05/12/2011 6:05:11 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is on Kindle)
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