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Trump Hits Back At Rove, GOP Critics
The Washington Times ^ | 04/19/2011 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 04/19/2011 11:23:14 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

Donald Trump fired back at Karl Rove on Tuesday for labeling his possible White House bid a “joke,” saying the one-time senior adviser to President George W. Bush “should be ashamed of himself” for the role he played in pushing an agenda that turned voters against Republicans and paved the way for the Obama presidency.

Mr. Trump, the billionaire real estate developer and reality-TV-show star still weighing a 2012 race, said in an interview that the Republican brand was so tarnished after the Bush-Rove years that even “Abraham Lincoln couldn’t have beaten” President Obama in the 2008 presidential race.

“Honestly, Karl Rove ought to go back and start thinking about other things because what he did is, he gave us, indirectly through President Bush, he gave us Barack Obama,” Mr. Trump said in an interview on The Washington Times-affiliated “America's Morning News” radio show. “In all fairness to [Arizona Sen.] John McCain, nobody could have won that election because of what happened with Rove’s policies or Bush’s policies.”

In the wide-ranging interview, Mr. Trump also came out strongly against raising the federal debt ceiling, saying the debate over whether to raise the government’s borrowing limit was “the strongest negotiating point the Republicans have.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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1 posted on 04/19/2011 11:23:16 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Looks like Trump pretty much nailed Rove.


2 posted on 04/19/2011 11:24:51 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Next thing you know, he’ll say Bush was evil and should have been impeacheximpeached. Oh wait...


3 posted on 04/19/2011 11:25:15 AM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trump is no joke, he is a weasel . . . that wears a badger pelt on his head.


4 posted on 04/19/2011 11:25:15 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (The United States Marine Corps, your greatest friend or your worst enemy. YOU choose.)
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To: MBB1984

The Donald is sure feisty......


5 posted on 04/19/2011 11:26:18 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Point, Trump. If he can help rid us of the Rovian moderates and help nail Obama, I want Mr. Trump to keep going.


6 posted on 04/19/2011 11:26:19 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: ilgipper

Exactly. Go Donald!


7 posted on 04/19/2011 11:27:38 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I never paid too much attention to Donald Trump. I knew he made millions by going bankrupt and had a splashy divorce. Then he had a reality TV show that I never saw.

Now I can’t believe the more he says the more I like him.


8 posted on 04/19/2011 11:27:40 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: ilgipper

My thoughts exactly. I don’t think Trump intends to run. He is just having so much fun creating a diversion and making the MSM on both sides, spend countless energy and resources trying to define him.

This will play to our advantage.


9 posted on 04/19/2011 11:28:18 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Give ‘em Hell, Donald!


10 posted on 04/19/2011 11:29:29 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: MBB1984

You should see Trump against ABC George Step-on-all-of-us morning show! THE BEST YET. George, filibustering all the way, was hot and not in a happy way. Cooly, Trump trumped him....again.


11 posted on 04/19/2011 11:29:32 AM PDT by RitaOK
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To: swain_forkbeard

Hey Rove, your ace just got Trumped.


12 posted on 04/19/2011 11:30:02 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: ilgipper

Donald is giving the GOP the enema it so richly deserves.


13 posted on 04/19/2011 11:30:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: swain_forkbeard
He actually has made changes. He admits, his former outlook was wrong and he is changing it. That is something to admire, not be cynical about.
14 posted on 04/19/2011 11:30:18 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Ross Perot II

Pretending to run to the right of the GOP potential candidates, and pretending to be concerned about a birth cert (that even Ann Coulter says is a non-issue) is designed to do two things:

1. Turn the primary race into a food fight, drawing candidates into loaded arguments that can be used against them later; and

2. Aping his fellow hyper-self-promoting-wheeler-dealer-turned-election-scoundrel-arrogant-unstable-untrustworthy-creep...Perot, Mister Trump will run as an indy in order to take conservative votes away from actual candidates.

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15 posted on 04/19/2011 11:31:25 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Neither Trump nor Rove have done me any favors lately, and I don't expect any in the future. They are both about themselves.
16 posted on 04/19/2011 11:31:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The hits keep coming! I’m loving it!!


17 posted on 04/19/2011 11:32:35 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Well, you know, there are a lot of good people here at FR that despise him for this or that and things in the past. But I have to tell you, what he is saying and the positions he is taking in the here and now are spot on.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 11:33:09 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

He’s going to be vetted during the primaries anyway, so let’s just wait and see what happens.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 11:33:20 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Yes Yes Yes. I just wish he would have said simply “I dont give a &*^% what Karl Rove thinks!!!” but I will take what he did say.

:)


20 posted on 04/19/2011 11:33:29 AM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

How many would have despised Reagan for getting divorced and once being a Democrat?


21 posted on 04/19/2011 11:34:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Mr. Jazzy

Maybe he’s attempting to be one of SP’s Badgers? He’s a joke but I’d agree about his take on Rove, the little turd that he is..


22 posted on 04/19/2011 11:34:18 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Rove needs to sit down and shut up. He had his chance and like Trump said, Rove’s claim to fame is that he gave us Obama. I did noticed in the article the greatly over used phrase “real conservative”. This REAL AMERICAN is sick of reading that phrase.
23 posted on 04/19/2011 11:34:39 AM PDT by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Go The!
24 posted on 04/19/2011 11:35:22 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: ilgipper

Exactly!! I love the stirring of the pot Trump is doing!!!


25 posted on 04/19/2011 11:36:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Seaplaner
Trump will never run as an Independent. He knows he can't win and he won't blow his money on a sure lose.

Trump is just stirring up the Political World by doing what he is doing. He is shrewd and very clever.

Mark my words, he is doing us a great favor here, and taking all the heat that other candidates can use later without getting labeled or Demagogued.

26 posted on 04/19/2011 11:36:59 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
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27 posted on 04/19/2011 11:37:23 AM PDT by BobinIL
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To: RitaOK

“saying the one-time senior adviser to President George W. Bush “should be ashamed of himself” for the role he played in pushing an agenda that turned voters against Republicans and paved the way for the Obama presidency.”

Wonder if Tokyo Rove is feeling like a cornered rat at this point?


28 posted on 04/19/2011 11:39:26 AM PDT by ransacked
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

29 posted on 04/19/2011 11:39:39 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Seaplaner
Ross Perot II

I suspect as much, except Perot was more genuine and had a better record.

30 posted on 04/19/2011 11:40:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: dfwgator
Oh I am sure that if FR had been around then, there would have been many, many freepers who would have painted Reagan as a left-wing RINO...I have no doubt.

Beggars can't be choosers, I hear people talking about the wonderful candidates out there - great folks like Bachmann and West - who couldn't draw 40% of the vote against Obama even if they had ten years to make celebrities out of themselves. Right now...and even with a year and a half to go before the election...they can't find more than 10% of the voters who have even heard of them - and the only thing they will ever hear of them is what nastiness the MSM will paint all over them, just like they did to Palin.

Trump is already known by practically everyone, he doesn't need for people to figure out who he is...he's already as well-known as Obama is. Who else do we have that fits that bill? Romney? Palin? Both have been heavily damaged, Romney of his own making and Palin has been ultra-Borked. They can't Bork Trump - he's too damned well-known already.

31 posted on 04/19/2011 11:41:12 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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32 posted on 04/19/2011 11:41:21 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trump’s conversion could be fake. If so, his fake beliefs are better than the “true” beliefs of just about any of his Republican competitors. (Although I still favor Sarah.)


33 posted on 04/19/2011 11:41:31 AM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: MBB1984

Rove and his amnesty BS, he is pushing it and jeb.


34 posted on 04/19/2011 11:41:52 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; All

Waiting for the Obama Supporters to post the “Trump loves Soros” articles in 3....2....1....

Trump makes good points here.

Karl Rove’s treasonous and Liberal ways paved the way for Barack Obama. In fact, the way Rove and the GOP are acting now...especially regarding OBama Eligibility....they are helping Obama win a second term

When you barely beat Al Gore and John Kerry in elections....you are no genius. You can get a monkey to do that

Trump against the debt ceiling....I guess that will be used as the reason for the GOP to cave in to Obama on this

The wussiness of the GOP will get Obama re-elected. Heck, the GOP, and the Liberal FReeper posters hating on Trump...probably want Obama nominated as the GOP candidate


35 posted on 04/19/2011 11:41:52 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

What Trump says is exactly true. And I love Bush personally.

The last 2-3 years of the Bush presidency were an absolute disaster. Thanks in a large part to Rove advising Bush to appear “above it” while getting hammered in the media.


36 posted on 04/19/2011 11:42:29 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: MBB1984

Excellent. Salt that bacon!


37 posted on 04/19/2011 11:43:32 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans - Don't read their lips. Watch their hands.)
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To: swain_forkbeard

Still don’t know him, he has never filed bankruptcy. But I find his attacks on these clowds really great.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 11:43:52 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: MBB1984

They called Rove “The Architect”

Yeah...Frank Lloyd Wrong.


39 posted on 04/19/2011 11:46:05 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: dfwgator

How many would have despised Reagan for getting divorced and once being a Democrat?


And, being a former Union Boss, too.....

I am more concerned with GOP and GOP Media (Beck, Coulter, Breitbart) giving cover to Obama on the Eligibility issue than Trump changing from Liberal to Conservative. Be more wary of those who are turning liberal (Beck, Coulter, etc)...than those seeing the light


40 posted on 04/19/2011 11:46:13 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Rove needs to sit down and shut up. He had his chance and like Trump said, Rove’s claim to fame is that he gave us Obama. I did noticed in the article the greatly over used phrase “real conservative”. This REAL AMERICAN is sick of reading that phrase.


Better a “Real Conservative” than a “Fiscal Conservative”...the latter, more and more I find, is neither


41 posted on 04/19/2011 11:47:47 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Stand Up To Obama Supporters....Boycott Beck)
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To: Navy Patriot
I suspect as much, except Perot was more genuine and had a better record.

True, although Perot is a fungus, at least he was a vet.

Trump doesn't know a major from a sergeant major, and never spent a day in uniform. (Just like his secret pal, Obama, eh?)

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42 posted on 04/19/2011 11:47:54 AM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

LOL! Good one!


43 posted on 04/19/2011 11:48:07 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama's 2012 Slogan: "We've got what it takes, to take what you've got"!)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast
The Left already has a nasty Palin attack campaign ready to come out in May. They announced it on CNN today;

http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/Chilling_Expose_On_Palin_To_Be_Released__120085199.html

The Palin worshipers on this forum had better prepare themselves for this one. It will be quite ugly for their candidate. They posted this as a non-issue yesterday, but CNN has taken charge of it and it will be trouble in the coming weeks.

44 posted on 04/19/2011 11:48:24 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I think we are witnessing a reality show version of “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. The boy who called attention to the Emperor’s naked state, probably was not suitable to be the Emperor, but was absolutely essential to honest public dialog.

Who among our favorite conservative candidates or pundits have had the stones to call Obama, the media or libs on the the fraud they have perpetrated. I think none. Even Sarah Palin & Michelle Bachman spoke out only after Trump proved that you could question Obama’s eligibility and not be destroyed.

I may not vote for Trump, but thank God for the Donald.


45 posted on 04/19/2011 11:48:41 AM PDT by TheConservativeBanker (Proud "Proofer".)
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To: dfwgator

And union leader to boot.


46 posted on 04/19/2011 11:49:22 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Rove was The Architect.

Architect of a destroyed Republican Party.


47 posted on 04/19/2011 11:50:19 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Murdering unborn children is the highest sacrament in the liberal religion.)
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To: MBB1984

Fair criticism too.


48 posted on 04/19/2011 11:53:10 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

The past is the past.

People can and do change. Look at Reagan, Whittaker Chambers, and David Horowitz.

Trump’s “conversion” could actually be legitimate. Only time will tell.

But I’m enjoying the hell out of what he’s doing to both the Kenyan usurper and the spineless GOP “leadersdhip” right now.


49 posted on 04/19/2011 11:53:18 AM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
one-time senior adviser to President George W. Bush “should be ashamed of himself” for the role he played in pushing an agenda that turned voters against Republicans and paved the way for the Obama presidency

Exactly.

If Bush would have been even a moderately good president, we'd never have a Chicago neighborhood level Communist for president today.

50 posted on 04/19/2011 11:53:26 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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