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Schwarzenegger, Bloomberg at White House for immigration meeting
Los Angeles Times ^ | April 19, 2011 | Michael A. Memoli

Posted on 04/19/2011 2:00:25 PM PDT by La Enchiladita

Former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger leads a list of 19 so-called "stakeholders" who will meet with President Obama at the White House to discuss immigration reform Tuesday afternoon.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, former Los Angeles Police Department Chief William J. Bratton, Los Angeles City Council President Eric Garcetti and former Republican Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida are also attending, the White House says.

The Obama administration says the group will discuss "the importance of fixing the broken immigration system for our nation's 21st century economic and security needs." Other administration officials attending include U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Labor Secretary Hilda Solis.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; arizona; bratton; dreamact; garcetti; hispandering; hispanics; holder; illegals; immigration; immigrationreform; laraza; martinez; nomas; obama; schwarzenegger; sharpton; solis
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The 2012 election looms....
1 posted on 04/19/2011 2:00:34 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: La Enchiladita

Executive order on the way.


2 posted on 04/19/2011 2:05:58 PM PDT by Carley ( TYPICAL STREET THUG, NASTY BULLY, THAT'S OUR PRESIDENT.)
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To: La Enchiladita

What do you want to bet that none of the so-called “stake holders” resemble hard-working, tax-paying, middle class Americans?


3 posted on 04/19/2011 2:13:39 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: La Enchiladita

Racial unrest and redistributing the major corporations/employers’ workforce benefits costs onto the remaining 50% of citizens who pay personal income taxes as a 2012 reelection strategy?

The underlying strategy is partition, and within my lifetime.

There can be no other workable solution outside of a hyper repressive police state akin to the “emergency law” oligarchies across the MIddle East.

All these old men making these grand pronouncements will be senile or departed before the country starts to stabilze.

Curse them all.


4 posted on 04/19/2011 2:15:26 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: La Enchiladita

Never mind that looming downgrade of our credit rating, an awful economy, and high unemployment- Obama has his real priorities.


5 posted on 04/19/2011 2:18:41 PM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: All; La Enchiladita
The players in Obama's roundtable:


6 posted on 04/19/2011 2:23:35 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: La Enchiladita

Ahnold is just “helping out some more friends”, nothing to see here.

Maldonado, Ahnold’s “friend”, was one of the vermin in CA helping 2 bill Gil with his pro-illegal legislation.

http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/jk2010.html


7 posted on 04/19/2011 2:26:33 PM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: newzjunkey

Wow...what would an immigration reform meeting be without Dick Trumka?


8 posted on 04/19/2011 2:31:17 PM PDT by woweeitsme
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To: newzjunkey

A fair and balanced gathering, if there ever was one... not.

Anyone heard from Tom Tancredo or Ted Poe or Jan Brewer lately?


9 posted on 04/19/2011 2:35:28 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


10 posted on 04/19/2011 2:35:28 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: HiJinx

We are totally screwed!


11 posted on 04/19/2011 2:36:58 PM PDT by Never2baCrat
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To: SZonian

The illegals have more “friends” than citizens do, it seems.


12 posted on 04/19/2011 2:37:32 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: Never2baCrat

The proper term is “Somos chingados.”


13 posted on 04/19/2011 2:39:46 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remember, Reflect, Renew: 2011, 10 years since 9/11. Never Forget.)
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To: La Enchiladita

If this governments idea of “immigration reform” passes, we will be in a civil war within 2 years.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 2:41:22 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: La Enchiladita
"Other administration officials attending include U.S. Atty. Gen. Eric Holder, "

What's that racist Ahole doing there, it's not HIS homies that're involved.

15 posted on 04/19/2011 2:45:05 PM PDT by matthew fuller (Bolton, Palin, Bachmann, Cain or Trump 2012!)
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To: La Enchiladita

I fear America is near the point of no return.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 2:51:31 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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To: newzjunkey

Podesta, Trumka, and Sharpton, quite a politburo they will have.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 2:52:53 PM PDT by ConservativeTeen (Proud Right Wing Extremist)
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To: newzjunkey

That list is 2/1 Democrats...


18 posted on 04/19/2011 2:56:01 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: newzjunkey

Sharpton and trumpka says it all. Every day another slap in the face. Fubo.


19 posted on 04/19/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: newzjunkey

Sharpton and trumpka says it all. Every day another slap in the face. Fubo.


20 posted on 04/19/2011 2:59:46 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: newzjunkey

Sharpton and trumpka says it all. Every day another slap in the face. Fubo.


21 posted on 04/19/2011 2:59:57 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: La Enchiladita

Ok, I vote they revoke Arnold’s status.


22 posted on 04/19/2011 3:08:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (President Obama's approval ratings are so low now, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the US)
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To: La Enchiladita

If Trump gets in he is putting the US Military on the Mexican border. This is an attempt to push an amnesty before Trump gets in. Of course Democrats love all legal and illegal immigrants because they vote Democrat....80%. And the illegals produce anchor babies who can vote in 18 years


23 posted on 04/19/2011 3:09:47 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: NonValueAdded

Prez approval rating dropping among Hispanics ...

Hmmm, what to do ... what to do?


24 posted on 04/19/2011 3:11:07 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: mojitojoe

I fear America is near the point of no return.


Rich vs. poor, black vs. white, Latino vs. all others, it’s the same old Marxist crap. Of course, he will propose an amnesty disguised as closing the borders before the election. His numbers among Latino voters are dropping and he wants those voters back. He has probably already done the focus groups and polls and he will tell Latinos what they want to hear. He won’t care if the proposal passes, only that Republicans take a position opposite from what his polling shows that Latinos want. He is a serial divider.


25 posted on 04/19/2011 3:23:48 PM PDT by excopconservative (organize4palin.com (what are you doing to save your country?))
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To: La Enchiladita

Whatever we may think of the GOP in the House for caving on other things, I can say with some confidence that they won’t cave on amnesty.

If amnesty for illegals gets passed, it will be the first shots of a second Civil War.


26 posted on 04/19/2011 3:38:33 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: La Enchiladita
Former Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger leads a list of 19 so-called "stakeholders" who will meet with President Obama at the White House to discuss immigration reform Tuesday afternoon.

The only reason Schwarzenegger is a "stakeholder" is because his housekeepers, nannies, and gardeners are probably illegal aliens.

27 posted on 04/19/2011 3:43:40 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: newzjunkey
PASS THE WORD---Here's one way Americans can protect our country against these invaders.

REFERENCE In 1996, Congress expanded the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) to include violations of federal immigration law.

1 While this expansion may not have received much publicity, it could potentially change the face of U.S. immigration law enforcement. Under the new RICO provisions, a violation of certain provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) meets the definition of racketeering activity, also known as a "predicate offense,"

2 and an entity that engages in a pattern of racketeering activity for financial gain can be held both criminally and civilly liable.

3 Among other things, the INA makes it unlawful to encourage illegal immigration or employ illegal aliens,

4 which violations were included as predicate offenses under RICO.

The 1996 law changes in the INA made hiring illegal aliens a predicate act of racketeering activity under RICO, but illegal hiring wasn’t the only violation of the INA made a predicate act. Other INA prohibitions made RICO predicate acts were encouraging or inducing illegal immigration, smuggling, and harboring illegal aliens.10 Together, these additions make the RICO Act potentially a very strong new tool in the hands of private parties against persons and companies that profit by violating U.S. immigration law.

Additionally, the RICO provision regarding the unlawful encouragement of illegal immigration could justify a suit against a private entity, such as a bank, that accepts foreign-issued identification cards that are only needed by illegal aliens.

One example of this, of course, is the matricula consular issued by the Mexican consulates in the United States. Since both the supporters of the matricula and those who oppose its acceptance agree that only illegal aliens have need to rely on the card, acceptance of the card knowingly encourages illegal immigration.

NOTE: Not one Mexican banks accept govt-issue official Matricula Consular card as ID to open a Mexican bank account b/c the MC bearer's identity is all but untraceable. MC cards are government-issued phony ID's. The Mexican govt designed MC cards to allow Mexican nationals (who violated our borders) to swamp the US banking system using multiple identities---to get on the US gravy train. The Mexican govt's objective is to weaken the US financial system, create chaos, and to ripoff US banks. US taxpayers are forced to pick up the tab for the resultant frauds........

Part of the legislative intent of the RICO laws in general was to afford private citizens a remedy for lawbreaking when authorities normally charged with such enforcement became derelict in their duties.

For example, in a town in which political corruption and racketeering activity have combined to the detriment of law-abiding citizens and the rule of law, the RICO Act was intended to provide private citizens the ability to initiate court action to compel enforcement and respect for the law.

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Obama's WH roundtable participants----colluding to undermine US national security?
* Leith Anderson, President, National Assn. of Evangelicals
* Michael Bloomberg, City of New York
* William J. Bratton, Former Police Chief, Los Angeles and New York
* Julian Castro, Mayor, City of San Antonio
* Michael Chertoff, Former Secretary Homeland Security
* Gov. John Engler, President and CEO, Business Roundtable
* Eric Garcetti, City Council, President City of Los Angeles
* Carlos Gutierrez, Former Secretary of Commerce
* Raymond Kelly, Commissioner, NYPD
* Mel Martinez, Former United States Senator Florida
* Greg Page, Chairman and CEO, Cargill
* Federico Pena, Former Secretary of Transportation and Secretary of Energy
* John Podesta, CEO, Center for American Progress
* Charles Ramsey, Chief of Police, Philadelphia
* Al Sharpton, President, National Action Network
* Sheryl Sandberg, COO, Facebook
* Arnold Schwarzenegger, Former California Governor
* Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO
* John C. Wester, Bishop, Archdiocese of Salt Lake City

28 posted on 04/19/2011 3:45:18 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: All
Good targets for RICO -----violating provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

The biggest predicate offenders are Western Union and JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America, and HSBC, banks which have sweetheart deals with Calderon and the Mexican government, all of whom shamelessly and blatantly cater to the need within the “illegal alien market” for banking and money transfer services.

AG's with stones should get involved---but keep in mind RICO was designed for private citizens to get justice and access to the courts when officials are derelict in their duties.

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REFERENCE American taxpayers are subsidizing foreign aid transfers to Mexico. According to Visa International--which was clamoring for a share of the transfer fees--American money sent South of the Border by illegals in one year totaled $38 BILLION-----which constituted Mexico's second largest most profitable industry.

American officials should mandate proof for all cash transfers out of the US and/or force all transferring agencies -- banks, credit unions, Amex, Western Union to collect a substantial withholding tax -- say 50% -- on every unexplained foreign remittance. WU and the rest should be nailed for wire-transfer fraud.

Calderon came to the US looking for a-n-o-t-h-e-r handout----$1.5 billion. If that was not enough, The US Congress passed legislation in late June 2008 to provide Mexico with $400 million and Central American countries with $65 million that year for the Mérida Initiative---to fight drug wars. The initiative was announced 22 Oct 2007 and signed into law June 30, 2008.

THE FACTS ARE THESE : Mexico is calculatedly staging the "war on drugs" -- with a hidden agenda--to wage war against the United States USING OUR TAX DOLLARS. Using deceit and guile, Mexico has infiltrated the US political system, from domestic to foreign policy, as well as L/E. The Mexican govt is sending millions of Reconquista shock troops from Third Worlds over the border (illegal aliens) coaching them about taking over the US system.

Mexico is the staging area for Central and South American Third World illegals to stream over the border into the US.

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Central America and Mexico are conning the US -----extorting US tax dollars to support Marxist/terrorist movement via the Merida Initiative----a despicable con to arm its police and military using US tax dollars to protect terrorists and drug cartels who are moving across the border into the US.

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Clearly, the Mexican govt is fomenting drug violence in order to: (1) get billions of dollars in US assistance, and, (2) to help their populations flee over the border claiming they are victims of violence and need "asylum." Asylum claims gets illegals thousands of dollars in SS funds.

Mexican Federales are getting rich using some familiar strategies:

(1) plotting to become a ward of the US;

(2) faking victimization;

(3) secretly revving up internal conflicts;

(4) play-acting the ignoramus;

(5) claiming they can't "control" their enemies without US money;

(6) organizing voting blocs----exchanging votes for US cash.

ACTION NOW---Stop all funding for this con game. Tell your reps to stop funding the Merida Initiative scam now.

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Mexico has no SS, welfare or other assistance. Senior citizens sell sticks of gum on street corners to survive. America needs to seal our borders and let Mexico know that we will cut off every penny in aid Mexico gets from the US.

29 posted on 04/19/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: newzjunkey; radpolis; Azzurri; mojitojoe; La Enchiladita; excopconservative; LibsRJerks; ...

PING to posts #28 and #29


30 posted on 04/19/2011 3:54:35 PM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: newzjunkey; La Enchiladita; stephenjohnbanker; Liz; indylindy; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; ...
* Leith Anderson, President, National Assn. of Evangelicals
* Michael Bloomberg, City of New York
* William J. Bratton, Former Police Chief, Los Angeles and New York
* Julian Castro, Mayor, City of San Antonio
* Michael Chertoff, Former Secretary Homeland Security
* Gov. John Engler, President and CEO, Business Roundtable
* Eric Garcetti, City Council, President City of Los Angeles
* Carlos Gutierrez, Former Secretary of Commerce
* Raymond Kelly, Commissioner, NYPD
* Mel Martinez, Former United States Senator Florida
* Greg Page, Chairman and CEO, Cargill
* Federico Pena, Former Secretary of Transportation and Secretary of Energy
* John Podesta, CEO, Center for American Progress
* Charles Ramsey, Chief of Police, Philadelphia
* Al Sharpton, President, National Action Network
* Sheryl Sandberg, COO, Facebook
* Arnold Schwarzenegger, Former California Governor
* Richard Trumka, AFL-CIO
* John C. Wester, Bishop, Archdiocese of Salt Lake City

I'm surprised he didn't invite Karl Rove, who was on TV today saying if the GOP doesn't play ball, they will have "Short term gain, long term pain."

So according to Rove, tens of millions of new leftist voters, permanent leftist control of the presidency, followed by overwhelming leftist control of all other branches of the federal government, and eventually leftist control of states and cities, is a good thing?

31 posted on 04/19/2011 4:24:45 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: La Enchiladita

FUBO


32 posted on 04/19/2011 4:25:47 PM PDT by Dagnabitt
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To: Liz
Thank You, Thank You. I had heard that RICO could be applied against rental owners actively and knowingly renting to illegals. This clarifies.

Is this being used in the US, and if so why have we not heard more, and why nothing for so long when it was enacted in 96?

33 posted on 04/19/2011 4:26:05 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: newzjunkey

Looks like a list of everyone who has helped screw up our country.

Notably present is Michael Chertoff. And we thought he was supposed to help close our border? Now we know.


34 posted on 04/19/2011 6:33:08 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: dennisw

Sure. He. Will. He run’s hotels. All legals, I’m sure.


35 posted on 04/19/2011 6:39:44 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Thunder90

Where’s a real Republican? In the old-fashioned sense, I mean.


36 posted on 04/19/2011 6:41:57 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: newzjunkey

shocked

WHAT? ...Jan Brewer didn’t make the list????

/shocked


37 posted on 04/19/2011 7:20:27 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM: The Liberal solution to every societal problem... Other People's Money.)
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To: NEMDF
What do you want to bet that none of the so-called “stake holders” resemble hard-working, tax-paying, middle class Americans?

Whatcha wanna bet that every single one of them supports "comprehensive immigration reform"? I.e., amnesty...but by another name (unknown at this juncture).

38 posted on 04/19/2011 7:35:38 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: La Enchiladita

39 posted on 04/19/2011 9:33:32 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Azzurri

“The only reason Schwarzenegger is a “stakeholder” is because his housekeepers, nannies, and gardeners are probably illegal aliens. “

Wrongo, the Austrian was an illegal once himself. He came over on a temporary visa for a bodybuilding contest and never went home.

I dunno how the scofflaw regularized his status to keep from getting booted out but he has illegal alien roots.


40 posted on 04/19/2011 9:58:24 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: newzjunkey
good thing that he has the union thugs there!


41 posted on 04/19/2011 10:18:40 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: La Enchiladita
My thoughts exactly.
42 posted on 04/19/2011 11:00:09 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; La Enchiladita; stephenjohnbanker; indylindy; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne
So according to Rove, tens of millions of new leftist voters, permanent leftist control of the presidency, overwhelming leftist control of the federal government, and leftist control of states and cities, is a good thing?

Rove is the idiot who also believes that once illegals from Third World hellholes experience democracy they would enthusiastically embrace it.

ROTFL. A pipedream if there ever was on.

The invaders are now intent on turning the USA into a Third World using US tax dollars pocketed under faked multiple identities.

This is on orders from corrupt Mexico and South/Central American federales who are salivating to get their hands on US foreign aid billions.

43 posted on 04/20/2011 12:21:51 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: All
The invaders keep flogging the dead DREAM ACT horse. It's become evident that within their secret enclaves, they've decided DREAM is the way to exert Third World power over US citizens and our govt, preparing for the takeover.

BUILDING A THIRD WORLD INSIDE THE US RULED BY MILITARY FORCE These stupid revolutionaries always makes me laugh out loud----they refer to Americans as "frail white people." They think b/c Americans are laid back that we are easy targets. They better think again.

They came here from poverty-stricken hovels, financed by corrupt Third World governments, the advance shock troops for what they think is a takeover that will rule by military force.

The invaders are clearly ill-equipped to exist under US democracy----within a world-class superpower under the rule of law.

Case after case clearly shows illiterate invaders, MS-13 gangs, and their savage cadres, are America-haters, invading the US to kill Americans. The FBT reports El Salvador's brutal MS-13 gangs saturating the US, have killed more US citizens than Al Quada killings all over the world.

Third World military juntas are attempting to undermine US justice. The juntas demand that the US Attorney suspend deportations of marauding latino criminals on US soil.

This presages the Third World they intend to build on US soil. The invaders are armed with a savage determination to take-back the SW (reconquista) by forming fraudulent voting blocs, using any means possible---scams that are patently illegal.

A world-class superpower governed by the rule of law is complex and sophisticated for primitive, illiterate Third Worlders, accustomed to military juntas patrolling the streets in camouflage and shoulder holsters.

These invaders are way out of their element and are unable to circum-navigate a world-class superpower, like America.

The savages are determined to decimate US cultiure and customs and our rule of law/

That ain't gonna happen.

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People suckered-in by the "here for a better life" scam should see this sign.


Reconquista shock troops at Phoenix Capital protest, May 29, 2010.

44 posted on 04/20/2011 12:38:32 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; La Enchiladita; stephenjohnbanker; indylindy; DoughtyOne
RE :”So according to Rove, tens of millions of new leftist voters, permanent leftist control of the presidency, overwhelming leftist control of the federal government, and leftist control of states and cities, is a good thing? .....
Rove is the idiot who also believes that once illegals from Third World hellholes experience democracy they would enthusiastically embrace it.

My question back to those like Rove (+McCain+ Graham-nesty) is how are you going to get legalized illegals who get the vote to support something like Ryan’s plan versus Obama’s ‘tax the rich’ plan.

I will agree with Rove in one sense. Republicans have NO plan for dealing politically with Hispanic voters who are a huge growing population. I could see this in NV race where Democrats motivated Hispanics to vote just to defeat Sharon Angle when Harry Reid was disliked by everyone there. Angle had no political strategy to deal with the Hispanic voters and thought playing up to (conservative) whites would be enough to win. She told her potential (NV) voters they were unemployed because they were basically lazy and other crazy stuff.

Republicans need some sort of message specifically to Hispanics to if nothing else wedge some of them from the Democrat party.

Losing elections is NOT winning

45 posted on 04/20/2011 5:26:08 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; La Enchiladita; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne

I believe the Republicans DO have a plan. Amnesty.

I believe they want to put a young well known hispanic star on the Presidential ticket this time. Maybe as VP. I am not sure about the eligibilty of this person, but hey, supposedly nobody in the heirarchy of either party cares.

None of the potentials has said that no amnesty will be granted. They talk about a pathway to citizenship, which is amnesty.

Both parties think that if it is their party that makes this possible they will be rewarded with the hispanic vote.

The democrats meeting like this is a way to try and force the issue before the election. A pure and simple ploy because they know that the GOP base is against amnesty and a tussle will be guaranteed.


46 posted on 04/20/2011 5:43:49 AM PDT by dforest
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To: indylindy
......Obama and the Democrats are trying to force the amnesty issue before the election because they know the GOP base is against amnesty, and a tussle will be guaranteed........

So true.....and as the pols eye The so-called Prize (illegal latino votes) they are holding back a crucial fact.

There is NO chance that amnesty will pass since Americans of all stripes are virulently opposed to amnesty.

47 posted on 04/20/2011 6:00:46 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: indylindy; Liz; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; La Enchiladita; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; ...
RE :” I believe the Republicans DO have a plan. Amnesty.....None of the potentials has said that no amnesty will be granted. They talk about a pathway to citizenship, which is amnesty. Both parties think that if it is their party that makes this possible they will be rewarded with the hispanic vote.

I can't argue your point above. They all dodge the issue mainly because they are scared of Hispanics in a presidential electoral vote/election.

But anmesty or dodging is only a short term electoral strategy for winning, and Republicans wont go along now with it anyway because of high unemployment, certainly not House Republicans. Obama is bringing this DOA issue up now for the same reason he did last fall, he is in campaign mode for 2012 and he wants to force Republican candidates to take a stand on it as we do.

I have a simple test for RINOs/Republicans proposing amnesty : “How are you going to get (poor uneducated) legalized illegals who get the vote to support something like Ryan’s privatize medicare and tax cut plan versus Obama’s ‘tax the rich’ plan?”. These people are perfect drones for Democrats to sell socialism to with : 'government will help you and your family NOW and you need it more than the rich', and to get Republicans to try to out-RINO them as we saw in 2007.

Hire Frank Luntz, have him do Hispanic focus groups and let's see what they want and what they respond to.

48 posted on 04/20/2011 6:09:23 AM PDT by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: sickoflibs; Grampa Dave; indylindy; AuntB; Tennessee Nana; Clintonfatigued; ...
Illegals are perfect drones for Democrats to sell socialism to with arguments like: "government will help you and your family NOW and you need it more than the rich."........they will manipulate Republicans to try to out-RINO them as they did in 2007.

THE DREAM During the early Bush years - there were several stock arguments in support of Bush's ill-advised amnesty efforts : 1) illegals are needed to support Social Security, 2) Illegals are God's children, and, once they taste US freedom, they will enthusiastically embrace democracy, and, 3) illegals are natural Republicans and will be so gratified once they are naturalized they'll vote GOP in droves. (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down)

THE REALITY One invader who got US citizenship (with fraudulent documents) said: "I want to vote. It's time WE take action to shape the way the US is being run."

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This is damn frightening. Think about it---law-breakers intend to remake the US---a country built on the rule of law. Foreign latino governments interfering in America policy presage the Third World they are building on US soil. Dominating and decimating the American way of life---our laws, customs and culture---is their chief goal.

WE'VE KNOWN THIS FOR A LONG LONG LONG TIME The federally funded La Raza are bigtime Marxist-socialists who detest America and Americans and march arm-in-arm with terrorists. These are the groups that McCain and Obamba sucked up to. Both candidates addressed the National Council of La Raza annual convention in San Diego.

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CIRCA 2008----MALDEF AND NCLR TERM SENATE MINORITY LEADER’S BLOCKING OF CHAVEZ RESOLUTION AN AFFRONT TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY Washington, DC – The Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) and La Raza expressed anger over the US Senate’s failure to pass a resolution commemorating the birthday and honoring the legacy of noted labor and civil rights leader Cesar Chavez.

“Cesar Chavez is an icon in the Latino community, a World War II veteran, and a hero to many other Americans for his tireless efforts to bring dignity and respect to all workers, especially those who toil in our fields. He deserves to receive the highest honors and recognition this nation can provide, not to be the subject of political gamesmanship,” stated Janet Murguía, NCLR President and CEO and John Trasviña, MALDEF President.

The measure was blocked by Mitch McConnell’s (R-KY) objection to the resolution.

Murguía and Trasviña continued, “To deny a great leader this congressional honor is a slap in the face to his family, to the Latino community, and to the millions in the US and around the world who continue his work and legacy today.” ### All Content © 2008 NCLR. All Rights Reserved.

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THE FEDERALLY FUNDED LA RAZA ANNOUNCES----WE HATE AMERICA AND AMERICANS "We don't want to drink from a white water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. . . The White way, the American way, the neoliberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction." Excerpted from Michele Malkin, 15 Things you should know about "The Race." FR POSTED http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2042782/posts?page=1

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One horrific news story reported a Mexican official demands the US Attorney suspend deportations of marauding Mexican criminals on US soil. (The invaders actually believe-----that with no proof of US citizenship OR by using fraudulent documents---- they can participate in US security, our prosperity, our legislative process, our voting process, and receive all the the benefits of democracy).

49 posted on 04/20/2011 6:29:46 AM PDT by Liz (A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: La Enchiladita

Someone needs to start running ads in the black community, they’ve been badly effected by the bad economy and if Amnesty happens? they’ll be worse off economically.


50 posted on 04/20/2011 6:39:33 AM PDT by Ballygrl
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