Skip to comments.The Known Facts Currently PROVE He is not a Legal President
Posted on 04/19/2011 8:00:40 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
Fact Number One
Congress is REQUIRED to ensure that the President elect is eligibile for the office or they must name a replacement if the Vice President elect is also ineligible. (Twentieth Amendment, section three)
3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
Fact Number Two
The burden of proof is on the President elect to prove eligibility. The sequence of words from section three stating "if the President elect shall have failed" is describing an action by the "President elect" that he failed at.
Fact Number Three
The eligibility requirements in Article Two, section one clearly state that NO PERSON who fails to meet the eligibility requirements can serve as President. "No Person" leaves absolutely no wiggle room for anyone who might possibly fool his way into being sworn in through fraudulent representation or Congressional neglect in enforcing section three of the Twentieth amendment.
" No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Fact Number Four
Since Congress must act if the President elect fails to qualify, Congress must be made aware of whether they must act or not. This means that a legal "qualification" is fully known by Congress and that there is no mystery whether someone was eligible to serve or not. That is, if that "qualification" was made.
Fact Number Five
We have mystery about the eligibility of the person currently calling himself "President". Nothing but mystery.
Fact Number Six
Since we have "mystery" this means that a "qualification" was NOT made and thus the President elect has "failed to qualify" and cannot be serving legally as President.
Fact Number Seven
"We have no birth certificate" EQUALS "We have a usurper".
Fact Number Eight
It is the duty of Congress to immediately address this issue as per section three of the Twentieth amendment or they are breaking their oath of office from Article Six to "support this Constitution".
Throw Obama out the next election...
President Bush was born in Mexico, and he was president for 8 years.
“....a Congress unwilling to address it.”
Of course they’re not willing to address it — many of them are the reason 0 ended up in the White Hut.
Congress qualified Urkel and there is no appeal. That fact trumps everything else.
However, if even ONE state passes a law requiring candidates show a long form Birth certificate then Urkel is done for 2012.
If you have to show a birth certificate to play little league baseball, is there even a question that it must be shown to be POTUS?
What are you talking about? GW Bush was born in New Have Ct. GHW Bush was born in Milton, Ma.
Congress must act? Or what? Is there one person you voted for in the last election who has asked Obama to prove his citizenship?
??? George W was born in New Haven, Connecticut. George H.W. was born in Milton, Massachusetts.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
They don't give a crap. And, ALL OF THEM would be implicated in a malpractice of their duties were it to be discovered we have an usurper in the office. It's less career limiting to accuse birthers of being crazy rather than looking into this as they're afraid of what they might find.
“President Bush was born in Mexico, and he was president for 8 years.”
Go back to DU, puke. George W Bush was born in Connecticut.
You are just a hater
This case has been in the court system all along and they are totally corrupt...not even willing to hear the case. We KNOW it is not about a birth certificate since he actually admits to being fathered by a British citizen. There is no rule of law in this country.
A little proof would be greatly appreciated.
” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Yes, he is shrouded in secrecy and questions. He is a completely unknown, and completely dangerous guy. But please, don’t let this be your swan song of reasons to oust him.
The eligibility question will be the conquering blow of anyone who stands against him in the next election. The ONLY reason we can legitimize the eligibility question is when we ask “Why is he doing SO MUCH to cover his past?” and “Simply SHOW the birth certificate!”
The guy was likely born in the U.S.. We can’t go after him based on this. We need to go after why, and how is being so secretive and so shady. Certainly not presidential material, this one.
And we need to ask this not to his face - But to the face of his party. Ask the Democrats why they made Hillary concede to him, when she had the Superdelegate votes. Ask why they railroaded her in favor of this empty suit. Ask why they follow him, Lock-step, when they even agree that Bush got it way worse. Ask questions of the party.
Barry Soetoro has no business being president.
Oh for crying out loud. That’s nothing but bunk.
Throw the bum out now.
That’s not good enough — the nation must know who all was involved in the perpetration of this historical hoax.
There must be a day of reckoning or it might repeat itself in the future and justice will not be served.
Tomorrow would be better.
(And then throw his sorry @$$ in prison. This man has done incredible damage to the United States. I'm just back from my regular semiannual trip to Lexington, Kentucky for horse racing, cigars, Bourbon, and good fellowship. Two long established eateries that we patronize are CLOSED this year. A Liquor Store we drove to was CLOSED. I saw lots of empty stores in strip malls there. I guess folks in Lexington haven't gotten the word that the recession ended two years ago.)
nickcarraway must be on the sauce again. Sad, sad.
That’s a heck of a bomb to throw out there. It will require supporting facts, and just for amusement; your assertion to this.
After he’s out of office then let the law suites begin.. never give him a minutes peace, NOT one minute!
Are you speaking of Dubya? He was born in New Haven, Connecticut. Whom are you speaking of?
With some folks, BDS is a chronic disorder .. reality doesn’t matter.
Show me GWB’s birth certificate.
The birther issue is one that has frustrated me greatly. No only because Obama got elected but because this great country requires more documentation for a kid to play baseball than become President of the U.S. It makes no sense.
If this wasn’t examined two years it’s too late to remove Obama from office. The Congress certainly won’t do anything even if it was proved he was ineligible to the satisfaction of everyone. Doesn’t matter.
We need to continue this fight for two reasons
1. Expose Obama and the Democrat Party as having perpetuated the greatest political fraud in the history of this country. But this is the tricky part. Just coming up with iron-clad evidence is not enough because commies will not back down given any set of facts. We need the House to pass a resolution that addresses this issue and references the lack of documentation on Obama’s part that makes his eligibility questionable. Will this result in any action. Of course not. But it may help expose the truth of what happened here more so than just us FReepers talking about it.
2. Secondly, we must put safeguards in place to ensure this doesn’t happen again. While people can rightly argue that Congress didn’t do their job it is still a matter of interpretation. I want some safeguards spelled out .
Upon what basis did they qualify him? The term "no Person" from within the eligibility requirements from within the Constitution certainly trumps Congressional "discretion" in ignoring or following the Twentieth amendment, section three.
My Life between the Bushes
At the DNC, pelosi deliberately signed an altered document attesting to the fact that 0bama was their candidate. The doc removed the clause partaining to the eligibility of the candidate
In other words... Pelosi and the dem leadership are in on the scam
Well done. It’s so simple.
I’ll do it. I care far more about my country then those working to undermine it. Give me the megaphone
Keep in mind, the only reason people pay taxes is the 16th amendment... which is attached to a document with no sever-ability clause. It’s all or nothing.
Birthers should stop filing taxes... since the Constitution is no longer in effect
Wouldn’t this argument be equally valid for any President who failed to show their birth certificate? That would be, like, all of them.
Nancy Pelozi only provided the certification for the state of Hawaii. That was because the Hawaii DNC knew better and refused to certify The One. SHE signed the documents. The documents for the rest of the states were signed by Pelozi as DNC chair and did NOT contain the verbage that Bozo was certified under the Constitution. She KNOWS he wasn’t/isn’t eligible.
We don't know about who did or didn't since this amendment was passed (1933). The list would start with FDR, then Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, then "you know who". How many of these were there questions about? How many of these were certified as eligible in accordance with section three before being allowed to serve? That would be a good thing to research. Hard to change things from back then, but that doesn't mean we have to allow it in a current fashion. My primary point is that we KNOW what we are presently dealing with and we KNOW that there is a Constitutional remedy available to end it.
LOL! Who told you that?...Bill O’Reilly?
There might be a point here to bear on the actions of Obama. Take that this was an oath that Obama took ‘..to preserve, defend and protect..’ and that this applied to the Constitution’s explicit requirement for POTUSA to be a natural born citizen. It then follows that it is Obama’s sworn obligation to provide/support for action/legal verification that POTUSA is a natural born citizen. Maybe being a lawyer he is going by rule that a person cannot be compelled to testify against himself. Perhaps if the courts and congress had fidelity to the same oath and Constitution they could act instead of the POTUSA in question.
This topic needs a new thread.
Any one here remember there were two ceremonies?
Cited Office holders had a paper trail with people lining up to say they were there at the birth (doctors, nurses, hospitals, county clerks , ... )
Fact Number Ten
Congress doesn't have anyone with enough intestinal fortitude to lead or even allow challenges to Barack's legitimacy either...
Fact Number Eleven
The real reason for no challenges being allowed by the legal elites is fear of the burning down of our major cities, terrible disorder and rioting and/or another civil war (for real...).
BDS huh... too bad.
Problem is that you use logic and facts
That really upsets liberals because they get a brain cramp and then can’t process anything. Their next step is to resort to calling you a racist.
It ain’t much, but it’s all they got!
I like line of reasoning. I’ll even pass it along. But the libs aren’t gonna like it for the above stated reasons.
No one - absolutely no one WITH STANDING in America - wants to be blamed for starting the race war that would result in trying to remove this most historic President in our history.
We don’t have rule of law anymore. We have rule by thuggery.