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The Known Facts Currently PROVE He is not a Legal President
self ^ | April 19, 2011 | Uncle Sham

Posted on 04/19/2011 8:00:40 PM PDT by Uncle Sham

Fact Number One
Congress is REQUIRED to ensure that the President elect is eligibile for the office or they must name a replacement if the Vice President elect is also ineligible. (Twentieth Amendment, section three)

”3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

Fact Number Two
The burden of proof is on the President elect to prove eligibility. The sequence of words from section three stating "if the President elect shall have failed" is describing an action by the "President elect" that he failed at.

Fact Number Three
The eligibility requirements in Article Two, section one clearly state that NO PERSON who fails to meet the eligibility requirements can serve as President. "No Person" leaves absolutely no wiggle room for anyone who might possibly fool his way into being sworn in through fraudulent representation or Congressional neglect in enforcing section three of the Twentieth amendment.

" No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Fact Number Four
Since Congress must act if the President elect fails to qualify, Congress must be made aware of whether they must act or not. This means that a legal "qualification" is fully known by Congress and that there is no mystery whether someone was eligible to serve or not. That is, if that "qualification" was made.

Fact Number Five
We have mystery about the eligibility of the person currently calling himself "President". Nothing but mystery.

Fact Number Six
Since we have "mystery" this means that a "qualification" was NOT made and thus the President elect has "failed to qualify" and cannot be serving legally as President.

Fact Number Seven
"We have no birth certificate" EQUALS "We have a usurper".

Fact Number Eight
It is the duty of Congress to immediately address this issue as per section three of the Twentieth amendment or they are breaking their oath of office from Article Six to "support this Constitution".


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; allegedlyamerican; bachmann; birthcertificate; certifigate; eligibility; fraud; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; trump
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Those are the cold hard facts. We have a usurper as well as a Congress unwilling to address it. The Constitution does not stand.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 8:00:42 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham

Throw Obama out the next election...


2 posted on 04/19/2011 8:04:16 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: Uncle Sham

President Bush was born in Mexico, and he was president for 8 years.


3 posted on 04/19/2011 8:04:40 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Uncle Sham

“....a Congress unwilling to address it.”

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Of course they’re not willing to address it — many of them are the reason 0 ended up in the White Hut.


4 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:21 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: nickcarraway

?


5 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:36 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: Uncle Sham

Congress qualified Urkel and there is no appeal. That fact trumps everything else.

However, if even ONE state passes a law requiring candidates show a long form Birth certificate then Urkel is done for 2012.


6 posted on 04/19/2011 8:06:52 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: Uncle Sham
The bottom line is: If there was nothing to hide or that is damaging on the birth certificate SHOW IT! Why are million$ of taxpayer dollar$ being used NOT to show it?

If you have to show a birth certificate to play little league baseball, is there even a question that it must be shown to be POTUS?

WTF?!?!

7 posted on 04/19/2011 8:07:07 PM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Some men DO just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Uncle Sham
Those are the cold hard facts. We have a usurper as well as a Congress unwilling to address it. The Constitution does not stand.

No one - absolutely no one in America - wants to be blamed for starting the race war that would result in trying to remove this most historic President in our history. No guts, and all afraid of what the history books will write about them. My latest disappointment is Gov Jan Brewer vetoing the HB 2177 bill in AZ that would have required the Sec of State to verify the eligibility of Pres candidates. If conservative AZ with a conservative Gov cannot pass such a requirement to enforce the Constitution, then NO ONE CAN. Other means are going to have to be used.
8 posted on 04/19/2011 8:07:07 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: nickcarraway

What are you talking about? GW Bush was born in New Have Ct. GHW Bush was born in Milton, Ma.


9 posted on 04/19/2011 8:08:01 PM PDT by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Uncle Sham

Congress must act? Or what? Is there one person you voted for in the last election who has asked Obama to prove his citizenship?


10 posted on 04/19/2011 8:09:37 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: nickcarraway

??? George W was born in New Haven, Connecticut. George H.W. was born in Milton, Massachusetts.


11 posted on 04/19/2011 8:09:43 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Uncle Sham
Dunno, I've always thought the judge that gives the Oath of Office to the Pres. was also on the hook.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

12 posted on 04/19/2011 8:11:17 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Uncle Sham
.........or they are breaking their oath of office from Article Six to "support this Constitution

They don't give a crap. And, ALL OF THEM would be implicated in a malpractice of their duties were it to be discovered we have an usurper in the office. It's less career limiting to accuse birthers of being crazy rather than looking into this as they're afraid of what they might find.

13 posted on 04/19/2011 8:11:53 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: nickcarraway

“President Bush was born in Mexico, and he was president for 8 years.”

Go back to DU, puke. George W Bush was born in Connecticut.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 8:11:53 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Uncle Sham

You are just a hater


15 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:11 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: Cheerio

This case has been in the court system all along and they are totally corrupt...not even willing to hear the case. We KNOW it is not about a birth certificate since he actually admits to being fathered by a British citizen. There is no rule of law in this country.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:23 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: nickcarraway

A little proof would be greatly appreciated.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:23 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: Uncle Sham

” No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Yes, he is shrouded in secrecy and questions. He is a completely unknown, and completely dangerous guy. But please, don’t let this be your swan song of reasons to oust him.

The eligibility question will be the conquering blow of anyone who stands against him in the next election. The ONLY reason we can legitimize the eligibility question is when we ask “Why is he doing SO MUCH to cover his past?” and “Simply SHOW the birth certificate!”

The guy was likely born in the U.S.. We can’t go after him based on this. We need to go after why, and how is being so secretive and so shady. Certainly not presidential material, this one.

And we need to ask this not to his face - But to the face of his party. Ask the Democrats why they made Hillary concede to him, when she had the Superdelegate votes. Ask why they railroaded her in favor of this empty suit. Ask why they follow him, Lock-step, when they even agree that Bush got it way worse. Ask questions of the party.

Barry Soetoro has no business being president.


18 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:30 PM PDT by Celerity
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To: nickcarraway
You must be smokin something. Besides Bush is retired so let's worry about Odumbo.
19 posted on 04/19/2011 8:13:05 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: nickcarraway
President Bush was born in Mexico

WTF?

20 posted on 04/19/2011 8:13:48 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh for crying out loud. That’s nothing but bunk.


21 posted on 04/19/2011 8:15:50 PM PDT by Gator113 (GAME ON. I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Uncle Sham

Throw the bum out now.


22 posted on 04/19/2011 8:16:57 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: A. Morgan

That’s not good enough — the nation must know who all was involved in the perpetration of this historical hoax.

There must be a day of reckoning or it might repeat itself in the future and justice will not be served.


23 posted on 04/19/2011 8:20:40 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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To: A. Morgan
Throw Obama out the next election...

Tomorrow would be better.

(And then throw his sorry @$$ in prison. This man has done incredible damage to the United States. I'm just back from my regular semiannual trip to Lexington, Kentucky for horse racing, cigars, Bourbon, and good fellowship. Two long established eateries that we patronize are CLOSED this year. A Liquor Store we drove to was CLOSED. I saw lots of empty stores in strip malls there. I guess folks in Lexington haven't gotten the word that the recession ended two years ago.)

ML/NJ

24 posted on 04/19/2011 8:22:14 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Texas Fossil

nickcarraway must be on the sauce again. Sad, sad.


25 posted on 04/19/2011 8:22:22 PM PDT by doc1019 (Palin/Bachmann, unbeatable.)
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To: nickcarraway

That’s a heck of a bomb to throw out there. It will require supporting facts, and just for amusement; your assertion to this.


26 posted on 04/19/2011 8:23:14 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: 353FMG

After he’s out of office then let the law suites begin.. never give him a minutes peace, NOT one minute!


27 posted on 04/19/2011 8:23:14 PM PDT by A. Morgan
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To: nickcarraway

Are you speaking of Dubya? He was born in New Haven, Connecticut. Whom are you speaking of?


28 posted on 04/19/2011 8:24:21 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (.)
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To: doc1019

With some folks, BDS is a chronic disorder .. reality doesn’t matter.


29 posted on 04/19/2011 8:33:44 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Gator113

Prove it.

Show me GWB’s birth certificate.


30 posted on 04/19/2011 8:35:00 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Uncle Sham

The birther issue is one that has frustrated me greatly. No only because Obama got elected but because this great country requires more documentation for a kid to play baseball than become President of the U.S. It makes no sense.

If this wasn’t examined two years it’s too late to remove Obama from office. The Congress certainly won’t do anything even if it was proved he was ineligible to the satisfaction of everyone. Doesn’t matter.

We need to continue this fight for two reasons

1. Expose Obama and the Democrat Party as having perpetuated the greatest political fraud in the history of this country. But this is the tricky part. Just coming up with iron-clad evidence is not enough because commies will not back down given any set of facts. We need the House to pass a resolution that addresses this issue and references the lack of documentation on Obama’s part that makes his eligibility questionable. Will this result in any action. Of course not. But it may help expose the truth of what happened here more so than just us FReepers talking about it.

2. Secondly, we must put safeguards in place to ensure this doesn’t happen again. While people can rightly argue that Congress didn’t do their job it is still a matter of interpretation. I want some safeguards spelled out .


31 posted on 04/19/2011 8:46:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: arrogantsob
"Congress qualified Urkel and there is no appeal. That fact trumps everything else."

Upon what basis did they qualify him? The term "no Person" from within the eligibility requirements from within the Constitution certainly trumps Congressional "discretion" in ignoring or following the Twentieth amendment, section three.

32 posted on 04/19/2011 8:53:54 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Gator113

My Life between the Bushes

33 posted on 04/19/2011 8:55:06 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Uncle Sham

At the DNC, pelosi deliberately signed an altered document attesting to the fact that 0bama was their candidate. The doc removed the clause partaining to the eligibility of the candidate

In other words... Pelosi and the dem leadership are in on the scam


34 posted on 04/19/2011 8:56:23 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Uncle Sham

Well done. It’s so simple.


35 posted on 04/19/2011 8:57:26 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Cheerio

I’ll do it. I care far more about my country then those working to undermine it. Give me the megaphone

Keep in mind, the only reason people pay taxes is the 16th amendment... which is attached to a document with no sever-ability clause. It’s all or nothing.

Birthers should stop filing taxes... since the Constitution is no longer in effect


36 posted on 04/19/2011 9:02:30 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Uncle Sham; All

or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified

Friends ... I think it is time ... Henceforth in public as well as private, I will refer to Joe Biden as "President Biden". I can see the liberal heads exploding already.


37 posted on 04/19/2011 9:15:10 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Uncle Sham

Wouldn’t this argument be equally valid for any President who failed to show their birth certificate? That would be, like, all of them.


38 posted on 04/19/2011 9:20:57 PM PDT by Kleon
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To: Uncle Sham

Nancy Pelozi only provided the certification for the state of Hawaii. That was because the Hawaii DNC knew better and refused to certify The One. SHE signed the documents. The documents for the rest of the states were signed by Pelozi as DNC chair and did NOT contain the verbage that Bozo was certified under the Constitution. She KNOWS he wasn’t/isn’t eligible.


39 posted on 04/19/2011 9:28:54 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
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To: Kleon
"Wouldn’t this argument be equally valid for any President who failed to show their birth certificate? That would be, like, all of them."

We don't know about who did or didn't since this amendment was passed (1933). The list would start with FDR, then Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, then "you know who". How many of these were there questions about? How many of these were certified as eligible in accordance with section three before being allowed to serve? That would be a good thing to research. Hard to change things from back then, but that doesn't mean we have to allow it in a current fashion. My primary point is that we KNOW what we are presently dealing with and we KNOW that there is a Constitutional remedy available to end it.

40 posted on 04/19/2011 9:36:22 PM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: nickcarraway

LOL! Who told you that?...Bill O’Reilly?


41 posted on 04/19/2011 9:39:29 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Palter

There might be a point here to bear on the actions of Obama. Take that this was an oath that Obama took ‘..to preserve, defend and protect..’ and that this applied to the Constitution’s explicit requirement for POTUSA to be a natural born citizen. It then follows that it is Obama’s sworn obligation to provide/support for action/legal verification that POTUSA is a natural born citizen. Maybe being a lawyer he is going by rule that a person cannot be compelled to testify against himself. Perhaps if the courts and congress had fidelity to the same oath and Constitution they could act instead of the POTUSA in question.


42 posted on 04/19/2011 9:54:09 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Palter

This topic needs a new thread.

Any one here remember there were two ceremonies?


43 posted on 04/19/2011 10:38:52 PM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Uncle Sham

Cited Office holders had a paper trail with people lining up to say they were there at the birth (doctors, nurses, hospitals, county clerks , ... )


44 posted on 04/19/2011 10:50:28 PM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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To: Uncle Sham
Fact Number Nine
No court in America will allow a challenge to go forward to Barack's legitimacy....

Fact Number Ten
Congress doesn't have anyone with enough intestinal fortitude to lead or even allow challenges to Barack's legitimacy either...

Fact Number Eleven
The real reason for no challenges being allowed by the legal elites is fear of the burning down of our major cities, terrible disorder and rioting and/or another civil war (for real...).

45 posted on 04/19/2011 11:08:57 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: El Sordo

BDS huh... too bad.


46 posted on 04/19/2011 11:18:14 PM PDT by Gator113 (GAME ON. I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Uncle Sham

Problem is that you use logic and facts

That really upsets liberals because they get a brain cramp and then can’t process anything. Their next step is to resort to calling you a racist.

It ain’t much, but it’s all they got!

I like line of reasoning. I’ll even pass it along. But the libs aren’t gonna like it for the above stated reasons.


47 posted on 04/19/2011 11:33:49 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Cheerio

No one - absolutely no one WITH STANDING in America - wants to be blamed for starting the race war that would result in trying to remove this most historic President in our history.


48 posted on 04/20/2011 12:17:31 AM PDT by satan (Plumbing new depths of worthlessness on a daily basis.)
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To: Uncle Sham

We don’t have rule of law anymore. We have rule by thuggery.


49 posted on 04/20/2011 2:52:42 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Uncle Sham

Bookmarking.


50 posted on 04/20/2011 3:29:47 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Best Cook on Free Republic! ;-))
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