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ACLU: Michigan cops stealing drivers' phone data
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20055431-1.html#ixzz1K1YGQb9t ^

Posted on 04/19/2011 8:35:22 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear

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To: kearnyirish2

ACLU is not one monolithic organization, it’s a bunch of independent state chapters under an umbrella. Different chapters have different philosophies. Some chapters have even defended the rights of Christians against those who would stop them from expressing their religion.


41 posted on 04/20/2011 7:19:29 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Loyal Sedition

I recently opted for a laywer instead of talking to the police. Clearly what they were claiming was bogus and can be easily proven; however, by opting not to talk to them I chose the harder path to follow.

Now I have legal fees and have to prove my innocence. If I had spoke to the police I believe they would have seen it my way and this whole issue would be behind me.

But then you take your chances because if you say something incorrectly they will use it against you. I’m not sure what the right way ahead is. If in this same situation I may opt for the easier path becuase this path is so damn hard and worrisome.

And on those cop shows you see them let guilty people go all the time for just being honest with the cop. But then I’ve seen cops also arrest people after they said they’d let them go if they told them they did it.

Personally I think the fix is to hard police and prosecutors to a higher standard. Not a higher standard of proof, but higher standard of punishment. If a cop or court official is found guilty of any crimes it should be double the mandatory minimum/maximum for the crime. Since it’s so hard for them to get caught they need a little more encouragement to keep clean.


42 posted on 04/20/2011 7:23:52 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: for-q-clinton

hard = hold


43 posted on 04/20/2011 7:26:24 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

They can shove their new gizmo up their fat wazoo!


44 posted on 04/20/2011 7:28:54 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
'most' people, who are otherwise 'law' abiding and havent been arrested before, will submit and hand over the phone with an assurance that the info will be 'safe' and they will remain 'FRee'...

if granny's formerly quiet old neighborhood is currently 'crack central' every car that drives in and out is now 'suspicious' to the WOD patrol, and resistance will presume guilt by association...

45 posted on 04/20/2011 7:31:52 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

This is absolutely and most definitely a warrantless search and seizure without probable cause and exigent circumstances. For once I am totally with the ACLU. This practice has to stop.


46 posted on 04/20/2011 8:08:00 AM PDT by henkster (Every member of Congress must put the fate of the nation over their next re-election campaign)
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To: Loyal Sedition

“For a quick example, recall all the “DUI checkpoint’s” which assume driver guilt.”

In practice, a serial child molester who murders his victims is given more benefit from his constitutional rights than the drunk driver who blows a .11 and ran slightly over the white line once.


47 posted on 04/20/2011 8:11:48 AM PDT by henkster (Every member of Congress must put the fate of the nation over their next re-election campaign)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Outcries of racial profiling should make it easy for the pigs to further scrutinze even more of the wrong people.


48 posted on 04/20/2011 8:54:27 AM PDT by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: for-q-clinton

This is exaclty the reason why we need judicial system restoration, and now. You were right not to speak without an attorney. You should never speak to an officer without one, except where required, name, address and birthdate.

The whole reason we have scuttled this deep is because peopel were trying to get along, and not rock the boat. Well sorry, the time to stand up was 100 years ago, but we have to settle for doing it now.

And there should be no municipal officers, only county sheriffs and they corresponding deputies who can be voted out and let go at any junction in time. Contrary to justice, police are not being held accountable, in fact in the last year or so, several states have made it a FELONY to record an officer on duty. What’s good for the goose is NOT good for the gander. We get to be on CCTV and recorded and monitored without permission, but the “watchdogs” (read “Wolves”), guard each other and take our tax dollars in order to support there union buddies, ala Wisconsin.

(In case you didn’t know the Madison police refused to obey and enforce the law during the riots/”rallys.” However on the contrary the County sheriffs guarded the ballots under lock and key in the election when the municipal police would not).


49 posted on 04/20/2011 8:59:37 AM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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To: martin_fierro

"ALPR"

Wow.

50 posted on 04/20/2011 9:01:37 AM PDT by pigsmith
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