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Donald Trump And Eminent Domain
National Review Online ^ | April 19, 2011 | Robert VerBruggen

Posted on 04/20/2011 1:08:56 AM PDT by sinanju

This is called, of course, “eminent domain.” The Constitution’s Fifth Amendment allows the government to take private property for “public use,” so long as “just compensation” is paid. In the infamous 2005 Kelo decision, the Supreme Court held that “public use” could include, well, private use, so long as the new property owner paid more in taxes than the previous one. In other words, it allowed developers and the government to gang up on homeowners. The developer gets more land, the government gets more tax money. The only losers are the original owner and his property rights.

A decade and a half ago, it was fresh on everyone’s mind that Donald Trump is one of the leading users of this form of state-sanctioned thievery. It was all over the news. In perhaps the most-remembered example, John Stossel got the toupéed one to sputter about how, if he wasn’t allowed to steal an elderly widow’s house to expand an Atlantic City casino, the government would get less tax money, and seniors like her would get less “this and that.” Today, however, it takes a push from the Club for Growth to remind us of Trump’s lack of respect for property rights.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; US: Connecticut; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: comboverboy; communism; eminentdomain; stalinism; trump
I haven't forgotten. Trump's attempt to steal the widow Coking's property to make room for his casino was all over the conservative media.

This guy ain't no friend of us peasants. If he's really trying to take down the Bamster it's because he's bad for his business.

1 posted on 04/20/2011 1:09:01 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

National Review is Romney Country.


2 posted on 04/20/2011 1:13:17 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: sinanju

was the lady compensated for the property? Its obviously worth millions


3 posted on 04/20/2011 1:14:38 AM PDT by 4rcane
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Let him take Zero out first. Then let’s see. It’s a gamble any way you look at it.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 1:14:50 AM PDT by Cololeo
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To: sinanju

That said, this is the one thing I’ve seen reported with substance that would cause me to possibly not support a Trump candidacy. Especially the unequivocal support of Kelo quote to Neil Cavuto.


5 posted on 04/20/2011 1:18:21 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: Cololeo

Agreed.


6 posted on 04/20/2011 1:18:49 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: 4rcane

Trump’s case got tossed out in 98’.

Although the article doesn’t say if the widow Corker is still alive. Maybe she died and her heirs sold out.


7 posted on 04/20/2011 1:20:23 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: streetpreacher

Dude, this article isn’t about Mittens.


8 posted on 04/20/2011 1:21:28 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

One more reason no self respecting conservative should consider Trump. A disaster in the making for the Republican party.


9 posted on 04/20/2011 1:22:15 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: sinanju

Didn’t say it was. I made my comment about Trump... but the fact of the matter is that NR is a political cheerleader for Romney and as such, this can only be seen as a campaign commercial, much like most of the posts here on FR.


10 posted on 04/20/2011 1:25:09 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: sinanju

Every time Chumps name comes up my reflex is to picture a conniving crook, just like Dingy Reid.

Are we really so bereft of good candidates that we are going to rely on RINO’s with name recognition and personal mega-fortunes to try to beat O’Bummer?

If so, we probably deserve to lose.

Just once I would like a candidate I can sincerely and happily support without reservation.


11 posted on 04/20/2011 1:31:14 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: sinanju

Apparently Trump is a commie at heart.


12 posted on 04/20/2011 1:38:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: streetpreacher
I guess it's too hard to see the danger in a president who favors the unConstitutional taking of private property?

Maybe you need to take off the Romney-and-all-who-say-nice-things-about-him colored glasses. This is an issue that stands on its own.
13 posted on 04/20/2011 1:38:22 AM PDT by jobim
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To: jobim

I agree... that’s why I posted in this very thread saying this could make me not vote for Trump. It shouldn’t be hard to find... there’s like maybe only 13 posts so far.


14 posted on 04/20/2011 1:50:02 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: jobim

We’re not even in the primaries yet and Trump hasn’t even announced yet the Republican establishment and fake conservative magazines like NR have decided that Trump must be destroyed. They never mentioned Trump at all until he started talking about one issue... why is that?


15 posted on 04/20/2011 1:51:36 AM PDT by streetpreacher (Don't be part of the Karl Rove/Mark Levin Natural Born Losers Club; Fight Like a Girl!)
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To: streetpreacher
National Review is Romney Country.

Which doesn't change a thing about the article. Trump-chumps are so happy about the birth certificate's being discussed that they can't be bothered to learn anything about their boy. Rather like Obama voters, don't you think?

16 posted on 04/20/2011 2:04:34 AM PDT by BfloGuy
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To: streetpreacher
this is the one thing I’ve seen reported with substance that would cause me to possibly not support a Trump candidacy

Objection sustained. I hadn't noticed this was your post too. Sorry.

This, however, in my estimation, is such an egregious ruling, and side to be on, that I don't care if the article appeared in the Alinsky Times. NR is not the issue here.
17 posted on 04/20/2011 2:13:17 AM PDT by jobim
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To: streetpreacher; jobim
Being honest would be a better approach than using lines like this:
They never mentioned Trump at all until he started talking about one issue... why is that?

18 posted on 04/20/2011 2:48:07 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: sinanju

This is old news. It’s bad news — puts Trump in a very bad light — but it’s old news.

What is much newer is the way he recently trashed Ryan, and the way he continues to say/imply that a huge tariff on Chinese goods will solve our deficit problem.

The first act is that of an Obama-style dictator. We don’t need to hear from the cheap seats. Sit down and shut up.

The second is an opinion of mind-numbing stupidity. Does he know how the Great Depression started? It started with tariffs.


19 posted on 04/20/2011 3:06:40 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: sinanju

Trump has been boasting of his wealth. So he essentially got rich by divesting others of their property? Hard to be impressed by that. I’m glad he’s on the birther issue, but I don’t particularly care to see him in the WH.

I’m embarrassed enough by Obama. I don’t really want to have yet another POTUS that makes us a laughingstock around the world. Yeah, he’d be tougher than Obama in foreign negotiations etc. But as others have noted, a champion of high tariffs is the last thing we need. And it sure wouldn’t settle down the Middle East to have a POTUS declare we should just take over a sovereign nation’s oil fields.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 3:15:23 AM PDT by DrC
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To: sinanju
However odious, Trump's actions are standard procedure for developers, whether it's called urban development or Ford Motors building a factory and tossing people out of their homes.
21 posted on 04/20/2011 3:52:44 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: saganite

Is Donald Trump the GOP Obama?


22 posted on 04/20/2011 4:07:23 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: 4rcane
The amount of monetary compensation is irrelevant. The principle is that a person must be able to consider himself safe in his own home from government attack, which would include the government taking your land to give to someone else.
23 posted on 04/20/2011 4:14:10 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Rearden

Well, that would mean he would win the Presidency. I don’t think he has a chance. If he is the GOP nominee we’re going to get shellacked. He’s more like the GOP Dukakis.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 4:29:20 AM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: streetpreacher
Six months ago it was a common assertion that anyone who criticized Palin for any reason was doing so because they supported Romney.

Now we see some Freepers suggesting that criticism of comb-over boy (far, Far, FAR more to criticize in his case than in Palin's) is attributable to Mitt-worship.

Seriously, some people need to get over their Romney fixation.

25 posted on 04/20/2011 5:59:15 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: BfloGuy

you said: “Trump-chumps are so happy about the birth certificate’s being discussed that they can’t be bothered to learn anything about their boy. Rather like Obama voters, don’t you think?”

You are 100% right on. It shows the danger of “kool aid” drinkers versus supporters. The Trump Kool Aiders are scary. So are the Palin “kool aid” drinkers. Now I like what Trump is doing, and I have liked Sarah Palin before she was a twinkle in McCain’s eye. But the kool aiders who slam anyone who questions these folks perfection are mind blowing. MUCH like Obama Trons.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 6:00:31 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: sinanju

27 posted on 04/20/2011 7:44:27 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: samtheman

“Donald Trump wants to take away your cheap Chinese imports!”

A powerful slogan that cuts to the heart of our self-interest but one the WalMart-hating libs would never use.


28 posted on 04/20/2011 9:03:13 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Thank you for reminding us.

For Trump, Trump trumps all else.

As far as ‘bam’s concerned, Jerome Corsi may have the goods.

So thanks Trump, but I’m sure you’ve got more pressing matters elsewhere.

Don’t let the door....


29 posted on 04/20/2011 9:04:56 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Pecos

Believe it or not, a few years back I once say a B&W coffee-table book in a used bookstore specifically dedicated to large commercial edifices built over the twentieth-century that had to be radically modified to work around some little house or church that wouldn’t sell out to the developer. It made for some charming aesthetics.

Imagine anything like that happening in this day and age. Wish I remembered the title.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 9:07:46 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: tsomer

The Trump phenomena may not last much longer. He’s a ninety-day wonder candidate whose early notoriety will flare out and be forgotten. Think Howard Dean. Or maybe not, I was paying careful attention and recall the lib media turning on Dean almost two weeks to the day after NR ran a cover article of him in full red-faced yawp with the title “Nominate this Man!”.

They read the article and decided Dean was indeed a nutso liability who would never get elected. Otherwise the scream in Iowa would never have gained traction.

As for The Donald, more and more conservative media are simply quoting his remarks and actions back to us. I think sanity will quickly return. Especially as the more mainstream Republican candidates find their mojo.


31 posted on 04/20/2011 9:12:37 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

I think the Republican campaign will be a snooze-fest unless Trump is in it. It certainly would guarantee more people would watch the GOP debates.


32 posted on 04/20/2011 9:14:42 AM PDT by dfwgator
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33 posted on 04/20/2011 9:24:25 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Loyal Sedition
Are we really so bereft of good candidates that we are going to rely on RINO’s with name recognition and personal mega-fortunes to try to beat O’Bummer?

No. We're just being played by the powers that be. They promote those they want, and suppress those they do not. That is the job of the media. If they were to start promoting actual conservatives, they'd find themselves dropped from the country-club and party circuits.

34 posted on 04/20/2011 10:53:25 AM PDT by zeugma (The only thing in the social security trust fund is your children and grandchildren's sweat.)
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To: sinanju

I can’t say I ever disagreed with the Federal Courts interpenetration of “eminent domain.” as only applying to the Federal Government.

Constitutionally speaking that is exactly the case. If you want to similarly limit your State Government either don’t give em that power or specifically redact that power in your State Constitution.

As a policy I am hesitate to criticize someone for their personal business choices as long as its legal. It does say something about Trumps “kindness” that he would willingly work with a city willing to do this for him, but if we are to rely upon the “kindness of goverment” to protect us from that government’s excesses we are in real trouble.


35 posted on 04/20/2011 5:02:19 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: saganite

I didn’t really express myself sufficiently, I’m sorry. What I meant to imply was that as Obama was not the candidate that many of his supporters hoped he was and that he appears to really want to knock this country of it’s moorings, perhaps Trump would not only expose the usurper for what he is, he would continue and accelerate the slide that Obama has set us on.

Not a really great analogy I admit, but hey, it’s early still, lol.

I agree with you, nothing good can come of the Donald’s full participation. I really don’t think that he’ll go through with it though, I don’t think that Trump could live with the constraints that the White House would put on him. Hell, the Obama’s can’t do it now.


36 posted on 04/21/2011 2:30:48 AM PDT by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: sinanju

Seems that “we” Republicans are so desirous of someone with ca-hones that we now accept Trump...geesh.

Oh well, maybe sign of the times....

Do I really have to state that he has NO Conservative principles, NO Republican principles, and several Democratic principles...

If you really are going to fall for Trump, you should not be in the Republican Party - certainty not in the Conservative Party.


37 posted on 04/21/2011 2:37:41 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: sinanju

Warts and all I’ll be voting Trump in primaries and beyond. He can raise the millions and beat Obama and your guy can’t. Who is your guy? Mitt? Huckster? Pawlenty? Who is your gal?


38 posted on 04/21/2011 2:49:39 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: sinanju

Trump tried this in Fresno County. He wanted to revive the Running Horse Golf Course project which had been abandoned and was greatly distressed. Along with that he offered to build in downtown Fresno which needs a lot of help.

But an Asian man from LA owned the acreage that Trump needed to build more facilities near the course. He wasn’t a “holdout,” he merely wanted to be paid for his land.

It was strongly tempting to our Fresno city leaders, including conservative mayor Alan Autry (Bubba from “In the Heat of the Night”), to pressure the man to give up his land for a low price. The newspaper, Fresno Magazine, radio and TV people were all pressing for the deal.

But after all kinds of wrangling, the owner said he wanted $38K per acre, the going rate for Central Valley farm land with water rights. The Donald didn’t want to pay that much, and asked Fresno City/County to condemn the land using eminent domai. Both entities said no despite the prestige and money it would have brought us, citing lack of authority to take land that way.

I was always proud of them for standing up for the Constitution in a state that seems to want to ignore or repeal our founding document. God bless them all.


39 posted on 04/25/2011 10:34:58 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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