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Obama administration shutters anti-porn task force
LifeSiteNews ^ | 4/20/11 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:07 AM PDT by wagglebee

WASHINGTON, D.C., April 20, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - A Justice Department task force initiated under the Bush administration to fight the spread of hardcore pornography has been shut down by Obama’s attorney general.

Politico reported this week that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder closed the Obscenity Prosecution Task Force, a move that has been met with criticism by conservative congressmen and other leaders.

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) urged Holder in an April 4 letter, signed by 41 other senators, including 6 Democrats, to change his mind.

“We know more than ever how illegal adult obscenity contributes to violence against women, addiction, harm to children, and sex trafficking. This material harms individuals, families and communities and the problems are only getting worse,” he wrote.

The Justice Department claims that the porn issue is better handled by lower U.S. attorneys and by the Criminal Division’s Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section.

Dr. Judith Reisman, an internationally recognized expert on the harms of pornography, said she considered the task force to have been no better than a token initiative.

“While perfunctory, smoke screen pretenses were made under Bush now the cards are on the table,” said Reisman in an email to LifeSiteNews.com, adding that “even under [Reagan] we were spiked, not by him of course, but by those under him.”


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1 posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:08 AM PDT by wagglebee
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2 posted on 04/20/2011 11:33:54 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

IP addresses in the WH were popping up on the screens of the task force.


3 posted on 04/20/2011 11:36:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: wagglebee

See there, the Obama admin has no problem ending SOME things. Now if we could just get them to go after the DOE (both of ‘em) and the Dept. of Agriculture...HHS....we could be on our way to fixing this financial disaster we call a nation.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 11:39:39 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: wagglebee

The porn industry is funded by large Corporations. If you look at the porn companies and you will find out they have a parent company that usually leads to well known large companies.

Sorry folks but porn is not going way. The bottom line is there is too much money in it.


5 posted on 04/20/2011 11:42:17 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: wagglebee

The “war” on porn is just as effective as The War On (Some) Drugs.

A complete failure.


6 posted on 04/20/2011 11:42:50 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Grunthor

your post got me thinking of some other things Obama doesn’t have a problem ending. One of his first acts as president was to make a kill list of select car dealerships.
I wonder how many families were affected? I wonder how many lost their insurance? I wonder how many had autistic kids? and they were told, like, you know.....”you’re on your own!”


7 posted on 04/20/2011 11:43:42 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: wagglebee
Who can forget those rousing words of Founding Father Orem Hatchet, standing in Constitution Hall, saying,
"Fighting obscenity is one of the primary purposes of the Federal government, and we must not only put it in the Constitution, but require 'Task Forces', especially in tough economic times. Our descendants will sit on their Intertubes and note how extremely effective such Task Forces are, being totally free of the presence of immoral influences, and every child will be free from exploitation!"

8 posted on 04/20/2011 11:44:03 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: wagglebee

Holder doesn’t want his own computer to become evidence, apparently.


9 posted on 04/20/2011 11:49:48 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Any politician who holds that the state accords rights is an oathbreaker and an "enemy... domestic.")
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To: Scotswife

Well you can’t balance a budget without breaking a few eggs. Going forward I hope the the coming G.O.P. administration will consider massive tax breaks for those donating to charities, so that the charities can care for the autistic and other such folks.

It was never fedzillas’ job to be everything to everyone and when it tries, even in ways that we like, it usually winds up bad.


10 posted on 04/20/2011 11:50:04 AM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: wagglebee

It is imperative to the left to spread immorality as far and wide as possible


11 posted on 04/20/2011 11:50:39 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Sprite518; SJSAMPLE

The target is kiddie porn; which sadly has some support on FR


12 posted on 04/20/2011 11:52:32 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: wagglebee

gotta cut spending, you know...


13 posted on 04/20/2011 11:58:19 AM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: Grunthor

I was just making fun of how he sat Paul Ryan in front of him so he could accuse him of abusing autistic kids in front of America.

I’m thinking - autistic kids everywhere would be doing alot better if their moms and dads could find jobs. If republicans knew how to fight, they’d start interviewing families with autistic kids who are struggling from Obamanomics. From there they could expose what Obamacare would do to these poor kids.


14 posted on 04/20/2011 11:59:45 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: wagglebee

Sweet.

15 posted on 04/20/2011 12:00:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

LMAO!


16 posted on 04/20/2011 12:00:42 PM PDT by Sprite518
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17 posted on 04/20/2011 12:00:52 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: GeronL

Kiddie porn already has serious investigatin and enforcement. If they want to create a DOJ sub-group to target kiddie porn (I think there already is), I’d vote to fund the SHIT out of it.

But targeting adults, a la the Meese Commission, is non-productive. We saw that almost immediately, yet we let the nonsense continue.


18 posted on 04/20/2011 12:03:30 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Sprite518
The porn industry is funded by large Corporations. If you look at the porn companies and you will find out they have a parent company that usually leads to well known large companies.

I don't believe your assertion. Care to give some examples?

In a world where anybody with a video camera and a willing woman can make porn, I would think the industry would be increasingly decentralized.

19 posted on 04/20/2011 12:03:31 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Scotswife

“I was just making fun of how he sat Paul Ryan in front of him so he could accuse him of abusing autistic kids in front of America.”

I thought that really showed the lack of class that has come to epitomize who Comrade O really is.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 12:03:56 PM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: Sprite518

“Sorry folks but porn is not going (a)way”

It’s been here since the first cavemen sketched on walls, it will be here as long as men have sin and weakness in their hearts. You are right, it’s not going anywhere.


21 posted on 04/20/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by Grunthor (The man or woman who doesn't forgive has forgotten the price that Christ paid for them on the Cross.)
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To: GeronL

I might have missed something, but who on FR has ever spoken (or written) in favor of child porn? Seriously...


22 posted on 04/20/2011 12:07:38 PM PDT by HushTX (QQ more, libtard.)
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To: HushTX

You might be surprised, just comments here and there and freepmails saying its not such a bad thing or that 13 year olds aren’t kids and are mature enough to decide.... libertarian thinking I guess.


23 posted on 04/20/2011 12:12:44 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t want to do your homework. Just go on google and look it up. You will find the Truth is hidden in plain view. Most people just do not do their homework.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 12:14:12 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: wagglebee
Which of the limited and enumerated powers of Congress covers having an “anti-porn task force”.

If done at the State level this wouldn't be a problem - but not everything worth doing is worth having a Federal “task force” assigned to it.

25 posted on 04/20/2011 12:18:33 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: GeronL

I count myself as lucky that I have never seen that sort of argument. I really don’t know how I would respond to that.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 12:19:01 PM PDT by HushTX (QQ more, libtard.)
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To: Sprite518

:-))


27 posted on 04/20/2011 12:21:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Sprite518
I don’t want to do your homework. Just go on google and look it up.

Translation: you have no idea as to what you're talking about. Docs or STFU.

28 posted on 04/20/2011 12:28:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

No Putz! I’m tired of doing other people’s research. Why you just sit three and do nothing but bitch. That is the reason why you do not know this because you are too lazy to verify it.

If you are too lazy to verify it, then prove me wrong or are you too lazy to do that to? I’m very surprised you do not even know this. It’s almost common sense.


29 posted on 04/20/2011 12:35:00 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: PapaBear3625

Here is the no brainier research for you. Y

Look up the top names of the porn companies to get a start (From Google or Whate ever web site). Then put in that companies Profile name to read more about it. Then you will see where their company gets their money. For instance, do they have a parent company? Or are they are traded on the Stock Market?

Here is one of the Top Porn Companies Vivid Entertainment. You can read about them here. Just follow the money is all you have to remember.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/51/51033.html

I’m not doing anymore homework for you. If I did this for everyone that is too lazy to check it out, then I would never get anything done. Like I said if you don’t think what I’m saying is the truth, then prove me wrong.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 12:45:19 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: GeronL; HushTX
I think there are two facets of the kiddie porn question on which conservatives can disagree.

First, the issue of punishment. If the law on the books for possession of kiddie porn is ten years' jail time, then if the prisoner completes his ten years, he has served his time and is entitled to be released. I have a major problem with additional, unofficial confinement based on psychological evaluations or anything else other than recidivism. Want 'em to do life without parole?? Then the American way is to change the law.

Second, my definition of child pornography is material which depicts the sexual exploitation of actual human beings below the age of consent. A novel that describes sex with children, or artwork portraying what is purported to be sex with children, are distasteful in the extreme, but if no actual child was involved, it's not child pornography.

31 posted on 04/20/2011 12:49:14 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: HushTX
Suppression of anything becomes a self perpetuating bureaucracy. Remember The Volstead Act, the War on Drugs, the demonization (and subsequent taxation thereof) of the “Evile & Wicked Weed” and the “Callous Corporations” in the tobacco industry, ad nauseam.

All are examples of how what appeared at first glance to be something we should let the Goobers in Gooberment Agencies deal with regardless of no Constitutional authority for those Goobers, or that Gooberment Agency.

Pointing out that the young are known to be inclined towards sex, and that since time immemorial, parents have had to keep an eye on their children, much less that parents are the ones charged by both God and the Constitution with raising their children - all are considered by some as secret signs of support for kiddie porn.

The ultimate offense to such people seems to be the vilest of observations, that parents and churches will be very ineffective in creating moral and self regulating behavior in comparison to laws/government. Family and church seem to be seen, by those posters, as have little efficacy in the creation of moral and self-regulating citizens of the Republic.

I have tried to explain my observations on a phenomenon that may be inexplicable. It's surely worth what you paid for it. ;-)

32 posted on 04/20/2011 12:54:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: allmendream; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW; trisham; metmom; TheOldLady; BykrBayb
Which of the limited and enumerated powers of Congress covers having an “anti-porn task force”.

I understand how much libertarians despise the commerce clause, but it's still there.

If done at the State level this wouldn't be a problem - but not everything worth doing is worth having a Federal “task force” assigned to it.

Now if the libertarians were to confine their beloved pornography to within the individual states this would probably work, but they don't do that now do they.

33 posted on 04/20/2011 12:57:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GladesGuru

There is a clique here on FR who seem to believe that the way to make Americans more virtuous is to pass more laws. I have a hunch they’ll be showing up here shortly.


34 posted on 04/20/2011 1:03:57 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: wagglebee
It is not just those much reviled “libertarians” that despise an overly expansive reading of the commerce clause - but also anyone who is a Constitutionalist or a Conservative.
35 posted on 04/20/2011 1:04:11 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: wagglebee

Holder finally did something right. In this day and age of trillion dollar deficits, we don’t need to waste money on task forces that duplicate the work of other divisions within the U.S. Attorney’s office, as well as similar programs at the state and local level.


36 posted on 04/20/2011 1:16:43 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: TheOldLady

What a beautiful, peaceful scene. Thank you, TOL!


37 posted on 04/20/2011 1:35:14 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Sprite518

In actual fact the established porn houses have been complaining about declining market share and profitability.

There are people who post themselves and friends performing. Very difficult to compete with free.

http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/04/digital-playground-video-technology-e-gang-09-ali-joone.html


38 posted on 04/20/2011 1:36:49 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sprite518

You made the charge; either back it up or withdraw it.


39 posted on 04/20/2011 1:39:06 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for posting this article.


40 posted on 04/20/2011 1:41:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: PapaBear3625; Sprite518

How about you stop being a rude idiot and do your own homework. You can find out in less than a minute. If you choose to stay ill informed, that’s your problem.


41 posted on 04/20/2011 1:42:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: trisham
I figured that I'd give the libertarians on here one more reason to love Obama and Holder.
42 posted on 04/20/2011 1:43:19 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: little jeremiah

So when you go to the classroom to learn something new. Do you tell the teacher/instructor/professor.... Just do all the research for me?

You ONLY learn by doing it yourself. Being lazy, doing nothing and then just bitching with no proof does not support your point either.

If everyone had to take the time to show others too lazy to check, then we would never get anywhere.

SORRY I’m not doing your research and I don’t care if you do not believe it.


43 posted on 04/20/2011 1:47:25 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Fine. From now on we can all just ignore your posts.


44 posted on 04/20/2011 1:59:55 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: wagglebee

How bizarre is that they are in agreement with that pair. If nothing else, that should be a red flag.


45 posted on 04/20/2011 2:01:32 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Notary Sojac

I don’t think I agree with some of that


46 posted on 04/20/2011 2:03:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: trisham

You’re welcome, sweet one.


47 posted on 04/20/2011 2:09:50 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: GeronL; Notary Sojac; wagglebee; little jeremiah
"I don’t think I agree with some of that"

Second, my definition of child pornography is material which depicts the sexual exploitation of actual human beings below the age of consent. A novel that describes sex with children, or artwork portraying what is purported to be sex with children, are distasteful in the extreme, but if no actual child was involved, it's not child pornography.

31 posted on April 20, 2011 3:49:14 PM EDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)

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I don't think I agree with it either.

48 posted on 04/20/2011 2:10:32 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Ignore: to refrain from noticing or recognizing...

Perfect word to use!

No surprise.. Here is one more starter for you genius!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/11/21/60minutes/main585049.shtml

Now this is not the “end all”, “be all” do you understand this? That means this is your “starting point” or “launching point”.

I understand you are use to being Spoonfed everything. Just because you have never heard it, because you are too lazy to look it up, does not mean it’s not true. You are killing me!

Oh and thank you for ignoring me!


49 posted on 04/20/2011 2:19:41 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: trisham
So, it's the effect of the material on the mind of the reader that makes it appropriate to ban a book. Not whether or not any real, living, breathing children were harmed in its creation.

I can respect your point of view, but yes, we will agree to disagree.

50 posted on 04/20/2011 2:34:02 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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