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Boeing illegally put second 787 line in S.C., complaint says
Seattle PI ^ | April 20, 2011 | Aubrey Cohen

Posted on 04/20/2011 12:01:45 PM PDT by jazusamo

Boeing illegally put its second 787 Dreamliner assembly line in South Carolina in retaliation for strikes in Washington and should be required to build the line in Washington, according to a National Labor Relations Board complaint filed Wednesday.

The board's acting general counsel filed the complaint in response to a charge that the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers union District 751, backed by the national union, filed on March 29, 2010. A board administrative law judge is scheduled to hear the case on June 14.

The complaint says Boeing executives "made coercive statements to its employees that it would remove or had removed work from the (union) because employees had struck" and threatened that future strikes would cost it more work.

"By opening the line in Charleston (S.C.), Boeing tried to intimidate our members with the idea that the company would take away their work unless they made concessions at the bargaining table," IAM District 751 President Tom Wroblewski said in a statement Wednesday. "But the law is clear: American workers have a right to pursue collective bargaining, and no company – not even Boeing – can threaten or punish them for exercising those rights."

Boeing issued a statement Wednesday saying it will "vigorously contest" the complaint.

"This claim is legally frivolous and represents a radical departure from both NLRB and Supreme Court precedent," Boeing Executive Vice President and General Counsel J. Michael Luttig said. "Boeing has every right under both federal law and its collective bargaining agreement to build additional U.S. production capacity outside of the Puget Sound region."

Boeing also criticized the timing of the complaint, noting it came 17 months after it announced it would put the line in South Caroline and as construction is nearly complete, with more than 1,000 new workers hired and assembly of the first airplane set to begin in July.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 787; boeing; dreamliner; iam; jobs; nlrb; outsourced; outsourcing; unemployment; unions; unionthugs
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This is ludicrous but with the Dem controlled NLRB this could turn into a mess.
1 posted on 04/20/2011 12:01:46 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: sionnsar; SC Swamp Fox; upchuck

Boeing Ping!


2 posted on 04/20/2011 12:03:27 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

At least Boeing has the moolah to take it to SCOTUS if need be.


3 posted on 04/20/2011 12:04:36 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: jazusamo

And people wonder why companies go overseas to escape the unions, regulations and taxes. Mostly the BS from the government.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 12:05:00 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I fell asleep during my air traffic controller job interview and still got hired. Cool!)
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To: jazusamo

Since when does the right to collective bargaining turn into denying Boeing’s right to locate a plant at the most favorable location for profitable work?

TC


5 posted on 04/20/2011 12:05:35 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: jazusamo

Gee I guess they can’t build their aircraft where they want now days!


6 posted on 04/20/2011 12:05:42 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: jazusamo
HAHA! Take that Washington! Piss be upon you coffee drinking wusses!
7 posted on 04/20/2011 12:07:21 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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8 posted on 04/20/2011 12:07:31 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

We are now.... France.


9 posted on 04/20/2011 12:08:16 PM PDT by Daus
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To: jazusamo

Keep it up, unions - the next Boeing production line will be in Guangzhou.


10 posted on 04/20/2011 12:08:22 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: jazusamo

Unions also have the right to pursue happiness.


11 posted on 04/20/2011 12:09:30 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (The last Democrat worth a damn was Stalin. He purged his whole Party.)
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To: Free Vulcan
At least Boeing has the moolah to take it to SCOTUS if need be.

So true and they will if they have to.

12 posted on 04/20/2011 12:09:36 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

This is the textbook definition of economic fascism.

Where a company is privately owned, and the company owns the means of production, but the government controls the company’s production. The only exception to this definition would be if the company were producing the product under government contract, and that contract were to specify where the production were to take place (for instance, the military’s contracts for producing ammunition). To the best of my knowledge, the “Dreamliner” isn’t being produced under government contracts.

Mark


13 posted on 04/20/2011 12:09:46 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: jazusamo

Maybe WA wants to be more like Detroit.


14 posted on 04/20/2011 12:11:51 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: jazusamo
People wonder why businesses locate factories in other countries - this is why. We have the government getting ready to make a determination if Boeing broke some insane labor law by building its factory where it wanted to.

I'm amazed we have lost more manufacturing jobs. Maybe we should have.

15 posted on 04/20/2011 12:12:38 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Keep it up, unions - the next Boeing production line will be in Guangzhou
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What he said.

They will never learn.They have gotten away with this crap for so long they have grown to think it is a right.


16 posted on 04/20/2011 12:13:00 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: jazusamo

Last desperate act of defiance by the Goonions.

Obama/Holder will use this as an excuse to enrich their trail lawyer contributors.


17 posted on 04/20/2011 12:13:43 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: jazusamo

coming soon to our country, the Anti Dog Eat Dog rule.


18 posted on 04/20/2011 12:15:59 PM PDT by laxcoach (Government is greedy. Taxpayers who want their own money are not greedy.)
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To: jazusamo
Before I'd let some guild of thieves force me do anything, I'd close the doors and sell off every scrap of assets at a loss. Then start over in a parasite free state.

union delenda est!
19 posted on 04/20/2011 12:18:26 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Warning: Sarcasm/humor is always engaged. Failure to recognize this may lead to misunderstandings.)
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To: jazusamo

Federal attempt at establishing a precedence in denying corporations the right to relocate away from union dominated workforces.

A fish rots from the head down so this started at the White House.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 12:19:11 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: WOBBLY BOB; OldDeckHand; All
Maybe WA wants to be more like Detroit.

If the unions at Boeing in WA keep this up they're going to find themselves out of a job at Boeing.

There was speculation when they set up a second line in SC they may have future plans to move the WA operation to the South. Stuff like this by the union may just prove that speculation true.

21 posted on 04/20/2011 12:19:39 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
From wiki:
The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) is an independent agency of the United States government charged with conducting elections for labor union representation and with investigating and remedying unfair labor practices.[emphasis added]

--SNIP--

In April 2009, President Obama nominated Craig Becker (Associate General Counsel of the Service Employees International Union) [SEIU]

--SNIP--

Becker's nomination appeared to fail on February 8, 2010, after Republican Senators (led by John McCain) threatened to filibuster his nomination.[6][11] President Obama said he would consider making recess appointments to the NLRB due to the Senate's failure to move on any of the three nominations.[11] True to his word, Obama on March 27, 2010 recess appointed both Becker and Pearce to the NLRB.[12]


22 posted on 04/20/2011 12:24:53 PM PDT by matt1234 (Union rank-and-file are now dem brownshirt rank-and-file.)
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To: jazusamo

As far as I’m concerned, Boeing may build their planes wherever they find a favorable business climate and the resources to complete the task.

Union thugs here in Washington can’t stand a little competition, can they?


23 posted on 04/20/2011 12:26:48 PM PDT by SandyInSeattle (When life gives you lemons, throw them back and demand chocolate.)
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To: jazusamo

Wow. Who is John Galt, I guess.... Wow. Surreal.


24 posted on 04/20/2011 12:29:14 PM PDT by Noamie
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To: Red_Devil 232

...and they can forget about building them with Rearden Steel.


25 posted on 04/20/2011 12:33:43 PM PDT by proudpapa
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To: matt1234

Thanks for posting that. Yes, both Becker and Pearce were union slug attorneys and Obama pulled his same old crud to get them on the board.


26 posted on 04/20/2011 12:35:55 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

let’s tell the workers in South Carolina they have to give half their salaries to their counterparts in Washington state as ‘compensation’ - workers of the world unite, right? and let’s see what happens then.


27 posted on 04/20/2011 12:36:23 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: jazusamo; SW6906

The IAM shouldn’t be too worried. After 4 or 5 years of Boeing management the workers in SC will be begging to join the union.


28 posted on 04/20/2011 12:36:52 PM PDT by namsman
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To: jazusamo

How DARE Boeing think they can decide where to put their production lines!


29 posted on 04/20/2011 12:37:24 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: SandyInSeattle

I hear you. It’s just a shame that these union slugs don’t realize or care that Boeing may just pull up stakes and leave.


30 posted on 04/20/2011 12:37:57 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Heck...at LEAST they kept the line in the USA.....fools...


31 posted on 04/20/2011 12:38:33 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: jazusamo

oh bummer to the rescue


32 posted on 04/20/2011 12:41:15 PM PDT by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialist States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: namsman

SC is a right to work state and I doubt Boeing will build any new facilities in any states that aren’t.


33 posted on 04/20/2011 12:41:21 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
"But the law is clear: American workers have a right to pursue collective bargaining, and no company – not even Boeing – can threaten or punish them for exercising those rights."

Only because they got a waiver from the law that everyone else had to follow. Sure, let them bargain collectively. Moving a company out of a state, though, isn't a failure, but merely a consequence, of collective bargaining. And if they get too coercive in the other state, well, then, move out of the country and tell them, as a union you may have a "right" to collective bargaining, but we aren't compelled to keep a plant open just for you. You've made it too expensive so you've effed yourself out of a job.
34 posted on 04/20/2011 12:42:02 PM PDT by aruanan
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35 posted on 04/20/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: jazusamo
"By opening the line in Charleston (S.C.), Boeing tried to intimidate our members with the idea that the company would take away their work unless they made concessions at the bargaining table," IAM District 751 President Tom Wroblewski said in a statement Wednesday. "But the law is clear: American workers have a right to pursue collective bargaining, and no company – not even Boeing – can threaten or punish them for exercising those rights."

They built the plant in SC so that they could still deliver planes when the Machinist Union goes on strike, which they always do, and always over the dumbest stuff.
36 posted on 04/20/2011 12:56:47 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck
Since when does the right to collective bargaining turn into denying Boeing’s right to locate a plant at the most favorable location for profitable work?

Since the communists have taken over America.

37 posted on 04/20/2011 12:57:00 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: matchgirl; ColdOne; Fred; Chattering Class of 58; SeattleBruce; tarator; 21twelve; Feasor13; ...
Thanks to jazusamo for the ping.

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Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

38 posted on 04/20/2011 12:57:47 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|http://pure-gas.org|Must be a day for changing taglines)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Washington state is a liberal crap hole! Hope Boeing pulls out completely.


39 posted on 04/20/2011 12:59:13 PM PDT by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: jazusamo

I didn’t know it was ‘Illegal’ to put a factory in one of the United States.

Might be in violation of contract but not illegal.


40 posted on 04/20/2011 1:01:34 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: MarkL

This is the textbook definition of economic fascism.

It really is and one wonders how many US citizens understand this or how many students are taught such. Messerschmidt, Siemens, Focke-Wolfe, etc. all produced under control and authority of the Nationalist-Socialist government.

Cannot substantiate the details but it appears Russia, after the Soviet Union's collapse, also works the same way.

This is why the political terms of the Left and the Right are purposefully distorted to fit a particular political agenda, across the globe. And why the conservative movement, e.g. the Tea Party, needs to elevate its arguments to the most fundamental questions of governing.

I remember during the Soviet collapse the Media regularly referring to the losing Soviet Communists as the "conservatives," and remarking to my wife, Huhh?

And recall how the Republican Party before about 1990 was "blue" and the Democrats "red," then of a sudden in the Media it switched.

None of this spin is accidental or incidental.

But of course the Youth swallow what they are taught, and the Old have short memories.

Johnny Suntrade

41 posted on 04/20/2011 1:04:41 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Niteranger68
HAHA! Take that Washington! Piss be upon you coffee drinking wusses!

This is not over. Never underestimate the stupidity of government, especially one controlled by the Democrats.

42 posted on 04/20/2011 1:05:03 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: jazusamo

Insanity.


43 posted on 04/20/2011 1:06:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: BipolarBob

If the companies go overseas, let them ask the country that they move to for the tax breaks and bail outs.


44 posted on 04/20/2011 1:11:39 PM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: jazusamo

Back in the days when radio was the hottest technology on the planet one of the biggest makers was Atwater Kent. Chatter came to his ear that his shops might be unionizing. He warned that if they did he’d shut the company down. They did. He did.


45 posted on 04/20/2011 1:13:20 PM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: jazusamo

Not just Dem controlled, they’re all union sympathizers, and at least one is a former union hack (SEIU IIRC).


46 posted on 04/20/2011 1:13:50 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

You’re correct. See post #22 & #26.


47 posted on 04/20/2011 1:16:42 PM PDT by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: namsman
The IAM shouldn’t be too worried. After 4 or 5 years of Boeing management the workers in SC will be begging to join the union.

I will remember that, namsman, as background to any other comments you may make on other subjects.

48 posted on 04/20/2011 1:16:56 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Since a Communist traitor ended up in the White House


49 posted on 04/20/2011 1:19:40 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimenticare Iddio!!!)
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To: jazusamo

Move it to Canada.


50 posted on 04/20/2011 1:20:56 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Impeach Obama & try him for treason / Homosexuals reject diversity / Unions finally caught for theft)
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