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Trump's Rising Political Power (Rove says Obama hasn't "put forth" his BC)
Fox News (On the Record, Gretta) ^ | Apr 20, 2011 | Carl Rove

Posted on 04/20/2011 10:47:08 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allegedlyamerican; allegedlyhawaiian; backstabberrove; birthcertificate; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; rove; rove4romney; tokyorove; trump
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Rove complains that Trump has been saying inaccurate things about Obama such as no one remembers Obama as a kid or at college.

Then at about 3:00 Rove says:

"It's one thing to say the president should put forth his birth certificate, and I don't understand why he isn't, and it is another thing to go out there and do what Trump has done and feed this paranoia that Obama is somehow not born in the United States of America"

This looks to me like a green light to Rove-blessed GOP establishment candidates to say that you don't know why Obama hasn't "put forth" his BC!

1 posted on 04/20/2011 10:47:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I’d say that statement is definitely a change of position... maybe Mr. Rove’s employer Ms. Bachmann wasn’t too happy with the feedback she almost certainly received today.


2 posted on 04/20/2011 10:48:45 PM PDT by SquarePants
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To: Seizethecarp

If Rove wants to be considered a voice to listen to he better start targeting obama instead of other conservatives.


3 posted on 04/20/2011 10:55:41 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Seizethecarp; All

Good point.

Either Rove screwed up....or too many fraud Cons are taking his talking points

Calling Birthers crazy and attacking them is no way to beat Barack Hussein Obama.

And, you can bet radio stations carrying Rush Limbaugh and Mark Lah-vin shows are feeling the heat now. Calling the base kooks and karazees does not help your ratings.


4 posted on 04/20/2011 10:56:05 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama is always credited (falsely imo) with being such a smooth talker yet there is something on his real bc he can't smooth over.
5 posted on 04/20/2011 10:56:15 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SquarePants
I think Bachmann was saying well “if” Obama were to submit a BC _and_ it were authenticated that would be OK.

While she sounded like she was saying the COLB would be OK, she clearly was making the point that Obama hasn't actually submitted it to any court or authorities who could verify it.

I suspect that Romney is Rove’s favored candidate, not Bachmann, and it will be interesting to see if Romney picks up on this line of “Why hasn't he put forth the BC?”

6 posted on 04/20/2011 10:56:26 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Interesting, because it seems that Rove wants Romney, and Romney has said it is a non issue. Maybe the Corsi book jumping to number 1 at Amazon has him reevaluating his position.


7 posted on 04/20/2011 10:56:35 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Seizethecarp

In politics its important to hammer home certain things and say one thing over and over....

I think “Why doesnt Obama release his BC ? “ is a non complicated thing to ask


8 posted on 04/20/2011 10:57:22 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Seizethecarp

I think Bachmann was saying well “if” Obama were to submit a BC _and_ it were authenticated that would be OK.
While she sounded like she was saying the COLB would be OK, she clearly was making the point that Obama hasn’t actually submitted it to any court or authorities who could verify it.


After seeing and reading Bachmann’s recent comments....she did not seem so sure in saying all is OK in the Stephy interview. The Liberal Media is quite anti-Birther and will spin any comment favoring Obama

And, inconsistency is not Bachmann’s thing.

Also, note, she has never attacked Birthers


9 posted on 04/20/2011 10:59:33 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: Seizethecarp
Bachmann is a lawyer, I don't think Obama has official provided the COLB, if so he may be legally on the hook for fraud if it is not legit

the MSM covers for him insinuating it is an official document.

10 posted on 04/20/2011 11:02:40 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: Seizethecarp

So trump has forced rove’s hand, that is pretty impresive.


11 posted on 04/20/2011 11:05:24 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: SquarePants
It seems like a green light to challenge the MSM defense posture that Obama HAS released his BC (COLB) and here it is (waive the green thing around).

Just last week Gretta re-played the tape on this video of Rove saying Trump was “off in the nutty right”!

Now, with Trump's poll numbers rising Rove is trying to make his way back to the front of the parade, only he wants to school Trump on how to be more moderately credible as a “birther” by avoiding false statements.

12 posted on 04/20/2011 11:06:46 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

I really do turn the channel when Rove come on... With FOX, that does seem to require a liberal use of the remote...


13 posted on 04/20/2011 11:12:57 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Seizethecarp
Of course, the implication of Rove saying that Obama has NOT "put forth" his BC is that Obama is NOT born in America.

According to Rove you just aren't supposed to say it like that crass Donald Trump!

14 posted on 04/20/2011 11:14:18 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Too Late Rove.. Too late... We know you are a rat and it’s why we now have Obama. Thanks for nothing!


15 posted on 04/20/2011 11:14:39 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Seizethecarp
The bottom line:

Obama has not released his LONG FORM birth certificate.
For whatever reason.

Also, Obama has a Connecticut SS#.

Strange stuff by anyone’s standards.

16 posted on 04/20/2011 11:15:29 PM PDT by cruise_missile (Obummer dumber than a teleprompter.)
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To: Seizethecarp

If Rove takes a position, run the other way.

Rove’s policy advice and influence on George Bush during his presidency are a major reason why Barack Obama sits in the White House today.


17 posted on 04/20/2011 11:19:26 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Our country's founders cherished liberty, not democracy." -- Ron Paul)
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To: Seizethecarp
put forth his birth certificate, and I don't understand why he isn't

B...Bu...But Ted Baxter says he has actually seen the BC... so how is it that Tokyo Rove doesn't understand why obamao hasn't put forth the BC?

How could Ted Baxter have seen it if it hasn't been put forth?

I'm so confused... /sarc

18 posted on 04/20/2011 11:19:48 PM PDT by rhinohunter (I think Jeb's very happy in Florida, and I hope he'll stay there.)
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To: opentalk

Corsi you magnificent bastard!


19 posted on 04/20/2011 11:21:22 PM PDT by TShaunK
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To: Seizethecarp

Rove must have got a word that it maybe revealed that Obama is not a U.S. citizen, and it’s why all of sudden he has changed his tune? Just don’t forget where he was 24 hours ago.

Keep in mind folks Trump is not going to say something unless he already knows that he has won. Trump is not stupid enough to say what he did without already knowing all the cards on the table. That’s why he is a billionaire.

Even if you do not plan to vote for Trump... You should be cheering him on against Obama with this birth issue. We have to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States.

You can continue to cheer on all candidates that go against Obama, but then vote for who you like when the time comes.


20 posted on 04/20/2011 11:22:07 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: TShaunK

Corsi you magnificent bastard!


I think he SwiftRove Rove


21 posted on 04/20/2011 11:25:13 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: Seizethecarp

Rove just the other day saying the issue is “Inconsequential” and a “Joke.”

That twit sticks his smelly finger in the air...Rove’s a toad.


22 posted on 04/20/2011 11:28:42 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: TShaunK

Exactly.

Corsi is going to make Rove and company look like fools. Rove is probably just figuring that out...


23 posted on 04/20/2011 11:34:00 PM PDT by DB
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To: Seizethecarp
All candidates.. Except Obama.. in 2008 proved their citizenship..
Why?... there must be a good reason.. its not accidental..

Whats ON that darned thing!?..

24 posted on 04/20/2011 11:38:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: taxesareforever
"If Rove wants to be considered a voice to listen to he better start targeting obama instead of other conservatives."

Political ideology, when it becomes the religion of a person, is more difficult to change directions about than turning a battleship in a shipyard.

Rove will hold to his RINO principles and talking points until they drown him like a lead weight.

25 posted on 04/20/2011 11:41:12 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: opentalk

>> Maybe the Corsi book jumping to number 1 at Amazon has him reevaluating his position.

Is this “The Book” where all is supposedly revealed?


26 posted on 04/21/2011 12:05:16 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: TShaunK

Corsi is great. I sent in my 25.00 to run the new commercials. Can’t wait to see them!!!


27 posted on 04/21/2011 12:09:48 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Gene Eric
I don't think anyone really knows where the communist Boy-King Man-Child was born. I'm guessing that Hawaii is simply ruled out as a possibility in the book.

But yes, Corsi’s book is about to slam into the Islamic Kremlin on the Potomac at full speed. This is why we see communist cockroaches such as Stephonopolis getting so angry.

28 posted on 04/21/2011 12:16:52 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Seizethecarp
( * "It's one thing to say the president should put forth his birth certificate, and I don't understand why he isn't, and it is another thing to go out there and do what Trump has done and feed this paranoia that Obama is somehow not born in the United States of America" * )

" This looks to me like a green light to Rove-blessed GOP establishment candidates to say that you don't know why Obama hasn't "put forth" his BC! "

No, what it looks like is ?

Karl Marx Rove is trying to take the thunder away from Donald Trump because Rove is seeing the numbers that indicates that this IS a winning issue, and now he and the Sissy Boys want to co-opted it now.....

Rove is still a snake... don't fall for it...
29 posted on 04/21/2011 12:43:49 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Iron Munro
" If Rove takes a position, run the other way.

Rove’s policy advice and influence on George Bush during his presidency are a major reason why Barack Obama sits in the White House today. "

Rove, Ann Coulter, and other's like them are a non-voice on this issue, they have already shown their hand, they are irrelevant.
30 posted on 04/21/2011 12:50:54 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Sprite518
" Rove must have got a word that it maybe revealed that Obama is not a U.S. citizen, and it’s why all of sudden he has changed his tune? Just don’t forget where he was 24 hours ago. '

Don't forget also how he trashed Christine O'Donnell.... perhaps ? this is God's way of pay backs..
31 posted on 04/21/2011 12:53:17 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Sprite518
" Keep in mind folks Trump is not going to say something unless he already knows that he has won. Trump is not stupid enough to say what he did without already knowing all the cards on the table. That’s why he is a billionaire. "

The interview Trump had with Stephanie reinforces your statement when Stephanie asked Trump what was the results from his investigations and Trump said " none of your business " ..
32 posted on 04/21/2011 12:55:50 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Red Steel

Romney is a Commie... Rove’s favorite..


33 posted on 04/21/2011 12:57:39 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Karl Marx Rove is trying to take the thunder away from Donald Trump because Rove is seeing the numbers that indicates that this IS a winning issue, and now he and the Sissy Boys want to co-opted it now..... Rove is still a snake... don't fall for it...

If that's true then it sounds like Rove fell for Trump's play.

34 posted on 04/21/2011 1:07:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Seizethecarp
Rove?



Always looking ahead in the rear view mirror.
35 posted on 04/21/2011 1:11:48 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: American Constitutionalist
...when Stephanie asked Trump what was the results from his investigations and Trump said " none of your business "

Since when does a reporter accept "none of your business" as an answer about possible new and revealing information about a POTUS? Stephanie outed himself as a partisan toadie with no interest in reporting real news by ignoring that.

36 posted on 04/21/2011 1:14:50 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Seizethecarp

It’s one thing to say the president should put forth his birth certificate, and I don’t understand why he isn’t,

Bush called Rove


37 posted on 04/21/2011 1:14:50 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: TigersEye

I’ll take the Obama BC seriously only when the National Review and Weakly Standard give me the go ahead! (sarc)
I cannot understand why instead of supporting their constituencies, the Rove, O’Reilly, Levin, etc have decided to attack all who want the hidden background on this Fraud Prez to be released...I’m starting to distrust the whole bunch including Coulter, Rush and Ingram!


38 posted on 04/21/2011 1:20:48 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: American Constitutionalist

I love how Trump slaps around the media. It’s about time someone did it.


39 posted on 04/21/2011 1:21:12 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: TigersEye
" Since when does a reporter accept "none of your business" as an answer about possible new and revealing information about a POTUS? Stephanie outed himself as a partisan toadie with no interest in reporting real news by ignoring that. "

The MSM has met their match, Trump was definitely in control of that interview..
40 posted on 04/21/2011 1:22:36 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: iopscusa

0’Reilly’s constituency is 0’Reilly’s mirror. As for the others I don’t know. It’s tough to take on an issue when the opposition has absolute control over the only evidence.


41 posted on 04/21/2011 1:24:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: muddler

It is beyond me why conservatives look to Rove as the “kingmaker”.


42 posted on 04/21/2011 1:25:22 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: Seizethecarp

Rove ? GO POUND SAND ! we don’t care what you say or think anymore... now get back up on the turnip wagon where you belong you dope... and keep Mark Levin company.


43 posted on 04/21/2011 1:25:44 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: PA Engineer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa551dR6Rc&feature=related


44 posted on 04/21/2011 1:31:32 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: antceecee

He is simply an in the Beltway RHINO and has power with those in power. Unfortunately for him, he is fast losing any credibility with anyone outside of the Beltway - ie the people.

That is good for Republicans since he and his minions have had power for way too long and continue to pursue to old style politics of and little bit less Democratic...

May he and his cohorts be disparaged in the next election...


45 posted on 04/21/2011 1:35:12 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: iopscusa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNa551dR6Rc&feature=related


46 posted on 04/21/2011 1:37:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: iopscusa
They are all part of the PIGS ruling self elitist class... It's all a charade ...
47 posted on 04/21/2011 1:41:07 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: iopscusa
" * I’ll take the Obama BC seriously only when the National Review and Weakly Standard give me the go ahead! (sarc)

I cannot understand why instead of supporting their constituencies, the Rove, O’Reilly, Levin, etc have decided to attack all who want the hidden background on this Fraud Prez to be released...I’m starting to distrust the whole bunch including Coulter, Rush and Ingram! * )



ANIMAL FARM PIGS





48 posted on 04/21/2011 1:52:20 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Seizethecarp

My friends at FR, you all are missing the huge story. BHO has committed Social Security fraud. This is in the Book, “Where’s The Birth Certificate?” It is already a best seller.


49 posted on 04/21/2011 2:04:08 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: Seizethecarp

Rove should STFU and go away. I’m not interested in anything that POS traitor has to say. His number one target for the past several years has been conservatives and, like the media, he gives Obama a pass on everything. Rove has never been elected to anything and doesn’t speak for anyone but his fat stupid self. I detest the basturd.


50 posted on 04/21/2011 2:24:22 AM PDT by samtheman
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