Skip to comments.Gay Marriage Opponents Now in ZOT
Posted on 04/21/2011 4:42:01 AM PDT by technonerd
A poll from CNN this week is the latest to show a majority of Americans in favor of same-sex marriage, with 51 percent saying that marriages between gay and lesbian couples should be recognized by the law as valid and 47 percent opposed.
This is the fourth credible poll in the past eight months to show an outright majority of Americans in favor of gay marriage....
As we noted last August, support for gay marriage seems to have been increasing at an accelerated pace over the past couple of years. Below is an update to the graph from last years article, which charts the trend from all available public polls on same-sex marriage going back to 1988.
...Both the California and Maine results were close, and because opinion is shifting so quickly on the issue, the outcomes would probably be different if they were voted on again today....
But Republican candidates, who have placed less emphasis on gay marriage in recent years, probably cannot expect their opposition to it to be a net electoral positive for them except in select circumstances. If support for gay marriage were to continue accelerating as fast as it has in the past two years, supporters would outnumber opponents roughly 56-40 in the general population by November 2012....
One way to read the trends of the past few years is that we have passed an inflection point wherein it is no longer politically advantageous for candidates to oppose same-sex marriage, which in turn softens opposition to it among the general public, creating a sort of feedback loop and accelerating the trend.
(Excerpt) Read more at fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com ...
The question is: where to go from here? Ignoring the problem won't make it go away, and simply butting heads against the trend is unlikely to do any good. The best obtainable solution is probably to sidestep the problem by separating marriage and state.
( Gay Marriage Opponents Now in Minority ) .... OHH HOGWASH !!
It would be nice to think so, but (as I noted) we’re talking about an analysis from somebody with a very impressive track record.
Polls of “Yes” or “No” on gay “marriage” always show gays winning. Actual votes always show them losing. Nevertheless, your point is well made. The answer would seem be: keep winning elections.
It doesn’t surprise me.. When an empire/country is ready to fall, it usually starts with the culture.. We will be viewed like the Greeks and Romans. So Sad as it didn’t have to be this way.
I don’t believe it. Polls have become a brain washing tool.
Is that right?
Then, why is the measure always defeated when We The People are allowed to vote on it? And, overwhelmingly so at that.
Defeated, yes. Overwhelmingly, no. And the margins keep shrinking — that’s the statistics Silver is tracking.
I do not believe this poll for one second.
A majority of Americans still recognize homosexual acts as perversions,crimes and sin.
I wonder how scientific this poll really is. Article doesn’t say.
Looks like a continuation of the “use” of polling to propagandize the population towards the goals of the Progressives, to me.
When does CNN do it’s poll on the 10 Commandments?
4 polls in 8 months on this subject. Hmmm, they (the Progressives) are workin’ it!
Welcome to FR, by the way.
I would expect this to only get worse. It’s a strong delusion...and it’s worldwide.
Take a look at the outcome in MI, GA, and tell me they weren't overwhelmingly won. I do agree with you that the margins keep shrinking.
The progressives always have to have someone to champion. First it was labor unions, then civil rights, then women’s rights, now homosexuals. Once they’ve forced gay marriage down our throats, what next? Polygamists? Pedophiles? They will have to champion someone. It’s their nature.
I don’t care if I am the last one standing on this issue. I will continue to oppose gay marriage to my last breath because I believe IT IS WRONG.
The goal is to fight the obmination that is gay marriage no matter what. Shall we step aside because some number crunchy nerd runs a poll that makes it look like a bare majority in this country is all for sodomite marriage. Hell no! This is just another attempt in a long train of abuses brought upon this country. One day, the left in this country will get payback. All it takes is leadership.
“I dont care if I am the last one standing on this issue. I will continue to oppose gay marriage to my last breath because I believe IT IS WRONG.”
Amen to that!!!!!
In Massachusetts our Govenor appointed a homosexual to the Superior court not because she is qualified but because she’s a lesbian.
That’s just awful and conjures images of the face-palm picture with the the guy saying - “Not this shit again”
The founders of this country would be appalled at what has become of Massachusetts.
That's why I suggested that social conservatives ought to focus on separating marriage and state while they still have enough leverage to do so. (On another topic, national security conservatives ought to focus on extricating the US from Barack's Bogus Libyan Adventure before it becomes a bigger mess than it is already. The logic is similar -- all it takes is getting past the irrational hang-up that going for the best achievable objective is some sort of "surrender".)
Consider the source. Since when can we trust a CNN poll?
There’s no single “source” — FiveThirtyEight aggregates a large collection of polls, with weightings based on each one’s track record.
Since when can we trust a CNN.
Indeed remember the reporter in a row boat in ankle deep water.
I think Jesus will be back before you can stop the stupid slide.
People come, and people go, but stupid goes on forever.
That option has little support on either side. Most have been conditioned to think that the gubberment defines marriage. Homosexualists and statists love that the state is involved in marriage, otherwise they would have no way to force something that can’t exist, like “gay marriage”, upon folks who find it contrary to their faith.
Precisely my point.
Remember ? their foundation is a house of cards ready to come tumbling down.... it’s all built on sinking sand.
It brings light to one of the many reasons and motives why they ( Obama, Obama’s people, the MSM, liberals ) are fighting the birthers over the eligibility issue.
“Precisely my point.”
It’s a good one. Just not too popular.
And yet, they continue to fight marriage amendment initiatives almost to the death. THAT ought to tell you what they really believe about their polls.
It's all a part of the agenda to wear down their opponents by demoralizing them.
They don't believe the real polls (elections) when they occur, but put all their faith in these unofficial "polls." It stinks to high heaven.
You can stop reading right there.
So, you attacked birthers and now you attack those who support traditional marriage and tell us we're in denial.
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Here's how we go from here. ON THE OFFENSIVE! A few ideas:
Pull your kids out of public schools. Generally speaking the public school system is the "youth outreach" of the homo-nazi agenda.
Find out what the public schools in your areas are teaching about homosexuality - if the push the "Day of Silence" - allow homosexuals to be Homecoming Queen/King etc. Even if you don't have kids in school, WE are paying for them!
Then, fight against schools pushing the homo agenda - any way possible.
Get together with like minded people and do whatever you can to influence others - letters to the Ed, going to local meetings, etc.
Speak up! Wear buttons supporting traditional aka "REAL" marriage.
I'd say write you Congresscritter and I suppose it's a good idea but I'm rather demoralized about DC right now.
DO NOT SUPPORT any "gay" anything - which includes watching TV or movies that promoting homosexuality in a positive light, etc.
Teach your children why homosexual is wrong, unnatural, dangerous, unhealthy, creates suffering, etc.
Protect your children from predators - most homosexuals were molested at an early age by older homosexuals.
More than one family has been horrified when their son or daughter returns from a year or two in college and proclaims "I'm gay!" Institutions of "higher learning" are notorious pits of depravity and care should be taken when sending young people off to school. Don't think they can't be influenced badly.
Any more ideas welcome!
I would also add that polls in general, especially CNN or any other MSM outlet, is going to be skewed to the Left.
agreed the only reason why they have advanced their agenda is because cowards don’t speak up and fight these perverts.
what a load of crap, perverts are in the minority and when the people vote we always win
Exactly. If the rest of us hadn’t been spineless coward neutered bunny rabbits, the homo-agenda would be in the closet where it belongs.
Propaganda is a much simpler word troll.
Take a look at the Proposition 8 analysis -that is reality.
So, you joined FR last week to try to get us to drop social conservatism? Or is technonerd not your first FR name?
The question is: where to go from here?
For actual conservatives, the answer to that will ALWAYS be to continue to advance conservatism.
The best obtainable solution is probably to sidestep the problem by separating marriage and state.
Are you a retread, or did you simply join to promote sodomy? Marriage is a solemn union between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN, anything else is a satanic abomination.
Perhaps you should read this:
Just shows why it’s important, as was said upthread, to keep winning elections.
It also shows what I feel is a basic disconnect, where the majority of the population seems willing to grant special rights to two percent of the population.
We don’t need your advice.
That's what I said -- advance conservatism; get the government out of its entanglements with everything under the sun.
This is just your agenda driven propaganda...
Nate Silver must be a little light in the loafers...
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