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Michele Bachmann trumps The Donald, declares birther dispute ‘settled’
Atlanta Journal Constitution Blog ^ | April 20, 2011 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by AAABEST

[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.


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I'm wondering what Stephie had.
1 posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:08 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST

Whistling in the dark. Scared to death. There’s demons in the closet, and it’s going to come out, sooner or later.


2 posted on 04/21/2011 5:18:56 AM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: AAABEST

Weird.


3 posted on 04/21/2011 5:19:04 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AAABEST

Bachmann did the right thing. Stephanopoulos was looking for a sound bite, an argument so he and the rest of the Marxist loving press could paint her as a loony. She took it away from him and it is absurd to see the liberal media after trashing the intellect of Bachmann (and all other Conservatives) to then assign to her the status of having the “final word”.


4 posted on 04/21/2011 5:21:33 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: AAABEST

I’m wondering what they have on Bachmann. So by virtue of Steph’s “Your CHRISTIAN faith” coverup, he gets a piece of this action.


5 posted on 04/21/2011 5:21:50 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: AAABEST

Most disappointing, but once again proves that full-time politicos are a controlled bunch. Looks like Palin and Trump are the only ones not under control at this time. JMHO


6 posted on 04/21/2011 5:22:03 AM PDT by J Edgar
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To: AAABEST

Constitutionally Bachmann is correct. The constitution lays out eligibility but leaves it up to the party doing the nominating to make that determination.


7 posted on 04/21/2011 5:22:22 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AAABEST

Headline doesn’t match the article. Bachmann is still basically saying “put up or shut up”.


8 posted on 04/21/2011 5:25:04 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Winning The Future" = WTF = What The F*** / "Kinetic Military Action" = KMA = Kiss My A**)
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To: AAABEST

And his Kenyan father makes BO a citizen, but not a “natural born” citizen. The location of his birth is not as important as the intent of the framers in adopting the ancient meaning of that phrase to describe those eligible for the presidency.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 5:25:17 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: 101voodoo

Bachmann tragically has become another pod person, it would seem.

Donald Sutherland, pointing her finger out and then slowly at first shrieking that zombie thing....

“RRROOOOOOOOOOOVVVVVVE”


10 posted on 04/21/2011 5:25:56 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: AAABEST

Oh boy, Bachmann just sealed her doom with the birthers. Until now she was an all-star.


11 posted on 04/21/2011 5:26:20 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: cripplecreek
-- The constitution lays out eligibility but leaves it up to the party doing the nominating to make that determination. --

The word "party" as in "political party" does not appear in the US constitution.

The constitution does not delineate the process for a determination of eligibility, but it assigns Congress the function of counting electoral votes, and the consequences if the "winner" of the electoral process is not qualified.

The US Congress is utterly corrupt and derelict. It is a failed institution.

12 posted on 04/21/2011 5:28:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: AAABEST; LucyT

Is she an idiot? George showed her a screen print of the internet forgery!


13 posted on 04/21/2011 5:28:25 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: AAABEST
Georgy pulled a fast one on her. Briefly waving something in front of here and then getting her to comment on it. I think it was that fake COLB that has been floating around for a long time. Here's a partial transcript of that part of the interview which was originally about the budget.

Stephanopoulos: Well I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says 'this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.'

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.

Stephanopoulos: Well this has been introduced. So this story is over?

Bachmann: Well as long as someone introduces it I guess it’s over.

Stephanopoulos: It’s right there.

Bachmann: Yeah, there you go. Because that is not the main issue facing the United States right now.


14 posted on 04/21/2011 5:28:48 AM PDT by McGruff (I am not a Birther. But I am a Proofer.)
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To: 101voodoo
Of course she did the right thing. I just wish conservatives wouldn't allow the democrats to pull their puppet strings like they have.

Democrats suddenly interested in Obama birth certificate Senate campaign director plots to derail Republican candidates

Politico reported Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chief Robert Menendez is distributing a memo to U.S. Senate campaign offices stating Democrats need to demand that their opponents answer a series of questions, including, "Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen?"
15 posted on 04/21/2011 5:28:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AAABEST
And it says “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

The fact that Obama is moving about is prima facie evidence that he was born. What we want to know are the circumstances. And if you want something "prima facie," how about the fact that he's clearly trying to hide something about those circumstances?

16 posted on 04/21/2011 5:28:51 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: AAABEST

Trump cancels seinfeld for cancelling St Jude benefit..
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesix/trump_blasts_seinfeld_pullout_0S8zYf2OzIeUveWAFr88MO


17 posted on 04/21/2011 5:30:09 AM PDT by biggredd1
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To: kevkrom
Headline doesn’t match the article. Bachmann is still basically saying “put up or shut up”.

To make my point, read what she actually said (emphasis added), and not the headline's spin:

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.


18 posted on 04/21/2011 5:30:37 AM PDT by kevkrom ("Winning The Future" = WTF = What The F*** / "Kinetic Military Action" = KMA = Kiss My A**)
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To: cripplecreek

The question is not “citizen”.

The question is natural born citizen.

Understanding you know that, but it needs to be repeated.


19 posted on 04/21/2011 5:31:00 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: AAABEST

No... she sold her soul to old karl rove and the whispers of promises yet to come.

LLS


20 posted on 04/21/2011 5:33:00 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: AAABEST
We've got "the trumpster" beating the drum regarding the stain's foreign birth...with all the money, time, savy, and media ability in the world.

We've got M. Bachman, with an egg-shell thin veneer with the right, and pretty much in S. Palin's ballpark on the left.

M. Bachman simply could not afford the fight "the trumpster" could - and is - making.

I would give anything to see if little georgy-peorgy has the cajones to sit with "the trumpster" and pull that hokey document gag. I believe "the trumpster" would make little georgy eat it!!

21 posted on 04/21/2011 5:33:16 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason ("I'm an expert on life...after shit happens." (Dead Like Me))
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To: kevkrom
Headline doesn’t match the article. Bachmann is still basically saying “put up or shut up”.

Exactly. And she's just not making it the top priority right now, while the country circles the drain economically, our troops are tied down in three regional wars, and hundreds jump our southern "border" daily.

22 posted on 04/21/2011 5:33:29 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

True enough. I decided early on that this was an issue for the states to decide and harassing US congressmen over it is foolish.


23 posted on 04/21/2011 5:34:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

I agree-and why should she tell the truth about what she REALLY thinks?
We have to play the game like they do; why do we have to be the honest ones? We know she’s ok and we know what she stands for, so she was right to not give him a sound bite-which would have been the ONLY thing to come out of this conversation.

With this crowd, we need to learn that we can’t put all our cards on the table...


24 posted on 04/21/2011 5:37:13 AM PDT by CT Hillbilly (My karma ran over my dogma)
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To: kevkrom; Bikkuri; GregNH; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ..

Good post. That should settle it...


25 posted on 04/21/2011 5:37:17 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 819 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: AAABEST

@#$%%&!!!


26 posted on 04/21/2011 5:38:03 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: AAABEST
" “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.” "?

Yes, OK - but the 'fact of birth' was never in question. He was obviously born.

But it does not say where, and Bachman is obviously not aware that people who were not born there could get a COLB in Hawaii. In the middle 1900's that is the only way immigrants could go to school in Hawaii, etc etc

27 posted on 04/21/2011 5:38:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: AAABEST

Of course Barry has a birf certificate- Steffie saw it on the internet! Official seal and all.


28 posted on 04/21/2011 5:39:01 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: AAABEST

It sounds to me that Stephie said “all in” and Michelle called his bluff.

I don’t think any of us have seen any cards but the next move is not Michelle’s. It’s Stephie’s ..... or Barry’s.


29 posted on 04/21/2011 5:39:28 AM PDT by Mobties (Reduce the government footprint! Let the markets work!)
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To: kevkrom
Headline doesn’t match the article. Bachmann is still basically saying “put up or shut up”.

LINK

30 posted on 04/21/2011 5:40:01 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: McGruff

And it does not have a signature stephie, girl


31 posted on 04/21/2011 5:40:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: AAABEST
I take the president at his word...

So sayeth Bachmann.

You have just lost my vote.

(Actually, you never had it...but...)

The blind naiveté in that statement is the precise reason you do not need to be considered for the Presidency, Ms Bachmann.

It is evident to anyone, even us poor dumb asses in the hinterland, that obama is a lying, socialistic, moslim POS and his treasonous actions have damaged this country, nearly to the point of no return.

Rather than meekly acquiescing to the POS's PR power players, you should be standing on a soap box, ideally one taller than Trump's, and shouting your doubt to the world.

But you won't, simply because you are Republican-lite, meek and thoroughly cowed by the obama machine.

We are in trouble.....

32 posted on 04/21/2011 5:40:13 AM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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To: cripplecreek

Well.

Perhaps. Seems to this poster, the emperor has no clothes, and the entire GOP establishment is afraid to say so.

It becomes so frustrating watching GOP milquetoast in “action”. While liberals just pound away.

Liberals long ago discovered than getting riled is what gets votes. Trump is showing the GOP right now, if they would please open their eyes and notice.

Ms Bachmann is doing herself no favors by being timid and so-carefully couching her answers, IMHO.

Nobody wants timid right now. Timid is not going to fix what is wrong.


33 posted on 04/21/2011 5:40:39 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: ScottinVA

While all the airtime is wasted on this issue that isn’t going to be readily resolved. We have marxists gathering to march in the streets, teachers teaching marxism in the schools, and a president and friends setting up a war against Israel.

The eligibility issue is like fighting an uphill battle against an entrenched enemy as we ignore the fact that we’re being overrun from all sides.


34 posted on 04/21/2011 5:41:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AAABEST; Sidebar Moderator; Admin Moderator

VERY MISLEADING TITLE

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/hannity/transcript/michele-bachmann-obamas-birth-certificate-possible-presidential-run


35 posted on 04/21/2011 5:42:08 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: kevkrom

Her quote is opposite of headline, isn’t it?

the dirty trick operatives willl use every opportunity to drive a wedge between Palin, Bachmann and conservative voters. Misquotes, distortions and outright lies- fair game.

GP does need ot get OFF the birf ceryficate debate an dlet the wheels of juistice hablde htis behind the scenes unitl the truth is ready ot emerge.

GOP needs to hammer on the economy and useless wars, and the contempt of Congress and the *****potus***** for the people, aka “slugs”.


36 posted on 04/21/2011 5:43:08 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: rovenstinez
Corsi's book, "Where is The Birth Certificate?" was announced for sale with first shipment on May 17 and it shot up to #1 on Amazon in the first 24 hours.

The msm is going to go nutzzer.

37 posted on 04/21/2011 5:44:04 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: silverleaf

No do not “get off” the subject.

Our alleged president is an imposter. Get off the subject??


38 posted on 04/21/2011 5:45:12 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Yes she was talking in political code words


39 posted on 04/21/2011 5:45:15 AM PDT by mel (I DONATE to FR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: rovenstinez

The birther nut are shaking like a dog passing peach seeds.


40 posted on 04/21/2011 5:45:25 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: AAABEST
Photobucket It's the "Mother of All Distractions" which was planned years ago.
41 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:01 AM PDT by RetSignman ("It's about saving our Republic, STUPID")
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To: cripplecreek; All
Bachmann's lifelong conservative credentials are solid gold. Yet there are a couple on this thread ready to throw her under the bus based on this one comment to Snuffleupagus.

Trump's lifelong credentials are those of a statist crony capitalist. Yet there are those ready to anoint him because of one single issue.

Another demonstration that many of the birthers are, simply, losing it.

42 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:24 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

43 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:24 AM PDT by Salamander (Insolence.....I has it.)
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To: org.whodat

If we are birthers, does that make those calling us that “spawners”?...


44 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:30 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: AAABEST

What should bother everyone here is this:

The document waved around by people like Stephanopoulis is a Certification of Live Birth.

A certification document is what is known in the legal community is an “abstract.” This means it intends to stand in the shoes of the original document, but for only certain things; it’s a shortcut.

Michele Bachmann is a lawyer. SHE SHOULD KNOW THIS AND SHOULD HAVE CALLED HIM ON IT.

Think of it this way. We all carry an auto insurance card; that is an “abstract.” It is supposed to stand in the shoes of our official insurance policy. You know, that thing that is about 40 pages long and details all our coverages. It does NOT detail our insurance coverage, it merely mentions that we have insurance. If the officer issues you a ticket that requires you to show up in court, in front of a judge with your insurance coverage in tow, it had better not be that card alone. You had better be hauling that 40 page document....or else.

The document they are trying to pass through is an ABSTRACT; the document they are hiding is the “40 page insurance policy” if you know what I mean.

The notion that MB did not spit these facts out with complete clarity, given her legal background, to Stephenopolis, is troubling...to say to least.

I like her too much to wonder if she’s gone over to the dark side.


45 posted on 04/21/2011 5:46:45 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Reposting my response on this issue the other day.

“Actually NO, she is not right. In your quote of the law it keeps talking about “the CERTIFICATE”. In other words that a certified copy of the “ORIGINAL” “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” is legally the same as the original. DUH. They aren’t going to allow you to have “the original birth certificate”. They give you a copy, and this law is saying that a copy is just as good. A COLB is NOT a “COPY” of the original.
Now Hawaii has just changed laws & procedures about birth certificates to be able to TRY to get around having to provide a copy of “the original”. It won’t work.”


46 posted on 04/21/2011 5:47:32 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: AAABEST
Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. ... Move on.

I don't want to "move on." I want to move in.

Is Ms. Bachmann really so clueless as to use the phrase, "move on"?

ML/NJ

47 posted on 04/21/2011 5:48:02 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Notary Sojac

We’re not losing it.

We are starving for someone on our side to stand up and take the debate unflinchingly directly to Obama.

Stop dancing around GOP. SAY WHAT YOU MEAN.


48 posted on 04/21/2011 5:48:13 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network ("Game On" - Sarah Palin 4/16/11 Madison WI)
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To: mel
The article's link is bad

http://blogs.ajc.com/political-insider-jim-galloway/2011/04/20/michele-bachmann-trumps-the-donald-declares-birther-dispute-%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%CB%9Csettled%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%E2%84%A2/

49 posted on 04/21/2011 5:50:18 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: silverleaf

It is not deniable. She said what she said. She CAVED. She let Stephie bully her. What happens if China was to bully her?


50 posted on 04/21/2011 5:52:48 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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