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The GOP Establishment's Futile Battle Against Donald Trump
The New Republic ^ | 04/20/2011 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 04/21/2011 6:50:19 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

During the 2008 election cycle, Mitt Romney was often accused of treating politics more like a consumer-focused business than an exercise in leadership. “My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo,” he said, radiating the sense that if primary voters wanted something, anything, he’d be willing to sell it. His strategists obsessed about creating and selling “Brand Romney.” To many, these efforts made him look like a crass twit, a market researcher’s caricature of the perfect Republican candidate, even as he came in second-place for the GOP nomination. This election, however, Romney may have to compete with Donald Trump.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nro4romney; oneborneveryminute; perot2point0; pimpingmilt; romney; romney4dnc; romneybotshere; romneyvsgop; romneyvspalin; romneyvstrump; trumped
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To: Buckeye McFrog

[”He is overtly Populist, and for various reasons our electorate is 110% primed for an outbreak of Populism right now.”]

BINGO!

You just nailed it FRiend.....On all counts.


21 posted on 04/21/2011 7:17:34 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Diogenesis
How is THAT being a Trojan Horse?

By pretending to be your new best friend, D, he may be just setting up for a Hillary coup in the Democrat Party, or even planning a third party split on the GOP.

22 posted on 04/21/2011 7:18:32 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Mrs. C has become a fan of the Donald. However, as for me I am still hoping a knight in shining armor will ride up and save the day.

Caddis the younger reminded me of this crude example of HOPE. Hope in one hand, c—p in the other and see which hand gets full first.

My loathing for the Clintons is well known, it also is no secret that I like them every bit as much as I do Mike Huckabee.

What a party we belong to, Ron Paul can tell it like it is, yet he is derided as a KOOK. Liberal trash such as the Ozark YOKUM are loved by a large faction of our party.

What a shame. It seems that whore-mongers, child molesters, and men who sexually molest other men gain more traction in our party than they could in the Dhimmikrat party.

How can that be, unless we have been infiltrated by the lefty, commie loving bums we(some of us at least) oppose?

Trump at least has the testicles to get in the face of the elites who have run our party into the ground.

Oh dear, I have to end this rant.

Caddis the most Elder


23 posted on 04/21/2011 7:18:52 AM PDT by palmerizedCaddis (For those of you under fifty, research Al Capp's Dogpatch. Bottomless canyon, and shmoos.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Trump is neither as good a businessman as Mitt Romney nor as good as Huck on social issues.>>>>>>

Trump could buy and sell Romney 10 times before you can blink. He is worth much much more


24 posted on 04/21/2011 7:23:43 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: dirtboy

Most all big business executives and Corporations donate to both sides. They have the attitude that you sell to all Americans on an equal basis or go bankrupt.

Trump IS a dynamic business man who knows how to influence people and he certainly read the Public sentiment by showing a more Populist approach. And he was correct in his evaluation of the American electorate.


25 posted on 04/21/2011 7:24:20 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: mentor2k
For the record, Ronald Reagan had a reasonably good track record of standing up to the libtard establishment in California before he ever ran for president.

So far, Donald Trump's political record is giving money to far left political causes and candidates.

Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee both talked a pretty good game in 2007 and I will confess to being charmed by Romney because he was the only one of the major candidates who actually took on Juan McCain while Huckabee was brown nosing him.

With Mitt and Huck, we have a pretty good idea of the brand of RINO we'd be getting. With Donald Trump, we're just supposed to believe that he's done a 180 degree turn on all his past positions. Sorry, but I'm not buying it.

26 posted on 04/21/2011 7:24:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Of course, he still has many issues that need correcting, but his exposure to the Conservative World has worked wonders on him. He is coming around in my opinion.

Good grief, you are THE single most naive poster on this board.

It's fine to laud Trump's take down of the Bambi administration, fine to cheer his victories in puncturing the democrat/media complex. Most of us are doing that, applauding what he's doing.

That being said, ignoring Trump's past statements on issues including his love for national health care, ignoring his overwhelming support of liberalism during his whole life, ignoring his huge trainload of baggage, is just plain stupid. For you to come on a conservative board and claim the man is the candidate conservatives need to push for the nomination is stupid beyond words.

27 posted on 04/21/2011 7:26:21 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Diogenesis

rombot is karl rove and dana pe-rino’s designate.


28 posted on 04/21/2011 7:27:23 AM PDT by ken21 (dem taxes + regs + unions = jobs overseas.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Most all big business executives and Corporations donate to both sides. They have the attitude that you sell to all Americans on an equal basis or go bankrupt.

And you keep missing the point I am making. Trump is being sold by his supporters as a fighter, a guy who can stand up to the Democrats. But his corporate history shows a guy who would rather write them a check instead of standing up to them. So all the Donald has shown as 'fighting' the Dems is flapping his guns on TV. Which means nothing.

Compare that to Palin, who has actually taken on the corrupt establishment in her state on several occasions. Yet Trump the check-writing appeaser is the fighter. Go figure.

29 posted on 04/21/2011 7:28:49 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Romney is clearly a Chameleon. He is what ever color the crowd for the afternoon dictates. As a Politician, Romney rolled with the flow and had no principles what so ever.

Rudy was a Social Liberal but a fiscal hawk. He just did not fit in with the Conservative idealism and he lost because of it.

I still do not believe Trump is fully on our side and I do not agree with much of his agenda. I am simply pointing out his sudden attention and surge of popularity among the average American voter, Conservatives included. To be honest, there is much to like about how Trump is handling his new position.


30 posted on 04/21/2011 7:32:02 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I still do not believe Trump is fully on our side and I do not agree with much of his agenda. I am simply pointing out his sudden attention and surge of popularity among the average American voter, Conservatives included. To be honest, there is much to like about how Trump is handling his new position.

To you, maybe. Some folks apparently WANT to be fooled. I don't.

31 posted on 04/21/2011 7:34:36 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I highly recommend you read the entire article first, before passing judgment. Trump is proving that he has the metal to endure the attacks and rise above them, using them to his advantage. Wouldn't that be a nice trait for the other Candidates to learn for a change?

All well and good, but Donald Trump is not a conservative - so why are we wasting time talking about him?

32 posted on 04/21/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: dirtboy

Thing is, when Trump goes on with former Clinton administration member George Stuffwhatever, and shuts him right down - people admire that.

Even liberals and independents respond to confidence like that.

Trump has that something, which can draw in people. Reagan had it, it was the basis for his landslide victory. “Reagan Democrats”.

Taking a tough trade line would almost guarantee election victory. Americans are starved for this sort of thing.

Seriously. The GOP brainwashing that being meek is desirable in a candidate is (exasperatingly) deep. Trump can win new people to the GOP every single time some liberal reporter tries to take him on. He’s finally standing up to them.

That is monumental.


33 posted on 04/21/2011 7:35:57 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trump wants to bring back jobs exported to China. No wonder he is blasted for hearing the job sucking sound, as was Perot and Buchanan before him. Go Trump Go.


34 posted on 04/21/2011 7:36:17 AM PDT by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Vigilanteman

Again, I remember people saying Reagan headed the biggest bunch of liberals while president of SAG. With him, you couldn’t know what you were getting. Same arguement you’re making against Trump. However, seeing is believing, so I’m keeping my eyes open.


35 posted on 04/21/2011 7:37:19 AM PDT by mentor2k
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To: dirtboy
Ain't it funny how people who were suspicious of Mitt, Rudy and Huck who had actual political track records are suddenly buying everything the Donald is selling just because he is a blank screen, except for his campaign contributions?

I suspect it is the same crowd who is writing off Sarah Palin as inexperienced just because the enemedia hates her.

Beware of whatever it is that the enemedia is selling. Currently, it is Donald Trump. Should he secure the Republican nomination, he will instantly be transformed into the most evil man in America who fires people and destroys jobs.

Would he be an improvement over Obozo? Sure he would. Bud so would Rudi, Mitt, Huck or even as steaming pile of doggie doo. That alone is not enough reason to make me for any of them.

36 posted on 04/21/2011 7:37:37 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Lakeshark
Where did I ever say that Conservatives NEED to push Trump as a candidate?

There you go again, reading things into other posters that is purely false. Then making the accusation as if it is a fact.

Talk about being “stupid beyond words”......

37 posted on 04/21/2011 7:37:41 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Thing is, when Trump goes on with former Clinton administration member George Stuffwhatever, and shuts him right down - people admire that.

Yeah, and in the same interview Trump told Steffie to mind his own business about anything Trump's alleged investigators found in Hawaii. Wait until later.

That, quite frankly, indicates Trump is doing this for show and to keep himself in the limelight.

And Trump can just go on and attack. He doesn't have an elective record to defend. So he is free to do what the likes of a Senator or Representative often cannot do - the story is entirely about Trump's attack on Obama and not about what Trump has done in office - because he's never been in office.

That should be glaringly apparent, but apparently it has sailed right over your head.

38 posted on 04/21/2011 7:40:09 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

And now you are being disingenious. Your post 15 all but endorsed Trump.


39 posted on 04/21/2011 7:42:37 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: mentor2k
Again, I remember people saying Reagan headed the biggest bunch of liberals while president of SAG. With him, you couldn’t know what you were getting.

Splendid analogy considering Reagan was president of the SAG for seven consecutive terms from 1947 to 1952 and served and additional term in 1959, governor of California from 1967 to 1975 and first ran for president in 1976. But I guess eight years of governor of the nation's largest state takes a back seat to the ability to generate media hype. < / sarcasm >

40 posted on 04/21/2011 7:44:32 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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