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Republicans Voted to End Medicare: How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)
DCCC via YouTube ^ | Apr 19, 2011 | DCCC

Posted on 04/21/2011 8:16:52 AM PDT by rogue yam

The Democrats have a new ad out demagoguing the Medicare issue.

Basically it says that only Big Government protects seniors from the indifference of the public.

Also there is sexual content.

Stay classy, DCCC.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dccc; medicare

1 posted on 04/21/2011 8:16:56 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z7FiBsR8OQ


2 posted on 04/21/2011 8:18:01 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

very effective vote-getter amongst all those octogenarians out there surfing YouTube /sarc


3 posted on 04/21/2011 8:20:59 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: rogue yam

And of course, they don’t tell Grandma that she can stay on the Medicare dole till she dies because Ryan’s plan would only affect those under 55 years old. Shame on these lying skunks.


4 posted on 04/21/2011 8:21:01 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: rogue yam

>How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)

Shouldn’t that the question be asked regarding Obamacare starting 2014?


5 posted on 04/21/2011 8:22:12 AM PDT by max americana (FUBO)
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To: rogue yam

I am getting into some heated arguments with the geezers lately.

But they always seem to quiet down a lot when I say “Hey don’t get upset when I refuse to pay for things you voted yourselves years ago- you had no business voting yourselves my money then, and now it is bankrupting the country”

This sometimes quiets the “we’re entitled” mindset.

(Freeper geezers excluded)


6 posted on 04/21/2011 8:23:34 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: rogue yam
A sense of shame keeps most people from doing shameful things. Rats are immune.
7 posted on 04/21/2011 8:26:48 AM PDT by JPG ("Mr. President, GAME ON." - Sarah Palin)
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To: rogue yam

Aim this commercial at teenagers and young people in their 20s. How will you pay for your medical in your retirement since you will spend your lives paying interest on the national debt that your parents and grandparents ran up and Medicare will have collapsed by then?


8 posted on 04/21/2011 8:28:43 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: Mr. K

I sometimes get into this same argument even with FReepers.

The standard line is “Hey, I paid into Social Security and Medicare all throughout my working years and so denying me the promised payout now is tantamount to theft.”

Folks need to understand that our unfunded entitlement programs, combined with our national debt, are theft by those collecting today from those working tomorrow.


9 posted on 04/21/2011 8:31:57 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: rogue yam

Does eat the rich mean Solent Green? Maybe we could turn Dim pols into Solent Green. All in favor say aye. And for a little extra spice maybe add some rinos.


10 posted on 04/21/2011 8:32:42 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: rogue yam
The standard line is “Hey, I paid into Social Security and Medicare all throughout my working years and so denying me the promised payout now is tantamount to theft.”

I get into the same argument on these threads. The idea is so pervasive that people "paid into" a system and so someone "owes" them the money back. My questions to them is always "Who owes you this money?" The answer can't be "the government" because the government can't magically generate money. The people who spent the money--our parents and grandparents and prior generations--are dead. We aren't getting anything out of them. So do we borrow more and saddle our kids with debt? Or do we step up to the plate and pay as we go and live within our means?

11 posted on 04/21/2011 8:37:32 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("The time will come when Winter will ask you what you were doing all Summer" -- Henry Clay)
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To: rogue yam

They should show the silver-haired Florida retirees sitting on the lenai of their $750,000 condo in Naples fretting over Medicare.


12 posted on 04/21/2011 8:38:03 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: kittymyrib
"....of course, they don’t tell Grandma that she can stay on the Medicare dole till she dies...."

Actually that is part of the problem......Rarely does anybody ever respond to these spurious accusations missing a huge teaching opportunity to get the truth out to the electorate.

By not responding, the lies are allowed to spread and grow and become the popular perception...Like the old saying goes..."Perception is reality."

13 posted on 04/21/2011 8:40:41 AM PDT by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: R_Kangel

The truth is long and boring.

Lies are clever, quick, and sexy.

Truth-tellers are always at a disadvantage.


14 posted on 04/21/2011 8:43:55 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Just so. Whenever people say that “the Government” owes them money they need to be reminded that the Government does not earn money, only people with private sector jobs and investments do. If anyone is owed money then their debtor must be some other human beings.


15 posted on 04/21/2011 8:47:54 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Mr. K
Hey don’t get upset when I refuse to pay for things you voted yourselves years ago ...
Unfair representation of the "geezers." They never voted directly for SS, Medicare, Medcaid just like they never voted for the VN war, the Great Society, etc.
What is true is that all that crap was "forced" on them by a Democrat majority government. Granted they voted them into office, but they were also sold a huge bill of goods (i.e. pie in the sky BS), that they believed.
And if you stop and think about it, those "geezers" back then had lived through the Depression, WWII, etc., and thought those programs would make their old age a little more secure and comfortable. Can you blame them? Both my "geezer" parents and "geezer" in-laws are gone now (three of the four were WWII vets), and those programs worked for them exactly as advertised.
What isn't emphasized enough is: 1) how the Libs have bastardized the entitlement programs so much that they're little more than welfare; 2) inclusion of millions of illegal aliens; 3) how the gov't has wasted TRILLIONS on crap like NASA, Dept of Education, Dept of Energy, foreign aid, etc.
It was those "geezers" who survived the Depression, saved the world from Fascism, and made life for their children relative heaven on earth in the greatest country the world has ever known.
16 posted on 04/21/2011 8:51:57 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rogue yam

“Republicans Voted to End Medicare: How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)”

Really? Yet it was the democratically controlled Congress who, just a year or so ago, voted to cut 1/2 Trillion out of Medicare during a 10 year period. Where’s your outrage now?

Go figure—but they’re “fighting for you”, right? Pffft!


17 posted on 04/21/2011 8:52:53 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: rogue yam
The standard line is “Hey, I paid into Social Security and Medicare all throughout my working years and so denying me the promised payout now is tantamount to theft.”

The reality is they have been stealing it from us since at least 1968 when they took the wall out between the Trust Fund and the general fund. Some of us would argue the theft actually began in 1935.
18 posted on 04/21/2011 8:55:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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19 posted on 04/21/2011 8:56:12 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: rogue yam

1995 called. They want their scare tactics back.

And so does 1980.


20 posted on 04/21/2011 9:01:05 AM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: rogue yam

IF, DC would get serious about actually policing the Medicare Pie properly, this issue wouldn’t be such a contentious political football.

http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/story/miami-couple-pleads-guilty-200m-medicare-fraud/2011-04-18

How do 2, just 2, scumbags manage to steal $200 Million out of the system BEFORE they got caught?


21 posted on 04/21/2011 9:27:02 AM PDT by To-Whose-Benefit? (It is Error alone which needs the support of Government. The Truth can stand by itself.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
I get into the same argument on these threads. The idea is so pervasive that people "paid into" a system and so someone "owes" them the money back. My questions to them is always "Who owes you this money?" The answer can't be "the government" because the government can't magically generate money. The people who spent the money--our parents and grandparents and prior generations--are dead. We aren't getting anything out of them. So do we borrow more and saddle our kids with debt? Or do we step up to the plate and pay as we go and live within our means?

Only a frickin' idiot would NOT think seniors paid into a system. Nope, they didn't pay into a fund, a private account but they did pay in, and it was done by force, at the point of a gun. No Seniors I know voted for SS, that was way before their time and no vote was allowed any way. The thing to do is to phase it out, SS and Medicare both, starting at about age 45, raise the retirement age for now and eventually this ponzi scheme will go away.

To say Seniors drawing SS and Medicare today should just forget the thousands of frickin's dollars they paid into the government, against their will BTW, is f***ing insane and totally selfish on your part.

You may think you are right but you are totally wrong.

22 posted on 04/21/2011 9:28:23 AM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59
Only a frickin' idiot would NOT think seniors paid into a system. Nope, they didn't pay into a fund, a private account but they did pay in, and it was done by force, at the point of a gun. No Seniors I know voted for SS, that was way before their time and no vote was allowed any way. The thing to do is to phase it out, SS and Medicare both, starting at about age 45, raise the retirement age for now and eventually this ponzi scheme will go away. To say Seniors drawing SS and Medicare today should just forget the thousands of frickin's dollars they paid into the government, against their will BTW, is f***ing insane and totally selfish on your part. You may think you are right but you are totally wrong.

I agree 100%! Very well said. None of us had any choice but to pay in and we still don't. If people want to stop entitlement, stop Welfare. The seniors that have paid into the SS tax have probably worked all their lives. The true entitlement hogs are the welfare leeches, not seniors.

23 posted on 04/21/2011 11:00:49 AM PDT by Melinda in TN (My goal in life is to be the person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: Melinda in TN

It’s not just welfare, it’s also the Earned Income Tax Credit. EITC was first estblished in the early 80’s to partially offset a big increase in SS witholding. EITC was limited to only the lowest wage earners and was less than the increase in SS witholding. Now, it’s just a welfare scheme where individual are given tax credits for taxes they don’t owe on income they never earned.


24 posted on 04/21/2011 11:27:54 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Melinda in TN

I would settle for a fourth of what has been taken out of my earnings over the years.
What happened to all the money that has been paid in over the years by millions of people I know it wasnt paid out to retired people, look at the millions of people who paid in all their lifes that never got anything back.
I have known at least three people who retired at 65 and died before they go their first check, how many died at 20 at 40 at 50 were did all this money go?
I agree with you 100% it went to people who never paid anything in.


25 posted on 04/21/2011 11:47:45 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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