Skip to comments.Republicans Voted to End Medicare: How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)
Posted on 04/21/2011 8:16:52 AM PDT by rogue yam
The Democrats have a new ad out demagoguing the Medicare issue.
Basically it says that only Big Government protects seniors from the indifference of the public.
Also there is sexual content.
Stay classy, DCCC.
very effective vote-getter amongst all those octogenarians out there surfing YouTube /sarc
And of course, they don’t tell Grandma that she can stay on the Medicare dole till she dies because Ryan’s plan would only affect those under 55 years old. Shame on these lying skunks.
>How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)
Shouldn’t that the question be asked regarding Obamacare starting 2014?
I am getting into some heated arguments with the geezers lately.
But they always seem to quiet down a lot when I say “Hey don’t get upset when I refuse to pay for things you voted yourselves years ago- you had no business voting yourselves my money then, and now it is bankrupting the country”
This sometimes quiets the “we’re entitled” mindset.
(Freeper geezers excluded)
Aim this commercial at teenagers and young people in their 20s. How will you pay for your medical in your retirement since you will spend your lives paying interest on the national debt that your parents and grandparents ran up and Medicare will have collapsed by then?
I sometimes get into this same argument even with FReepers.
The standard line is “Hey, I paid into Social Security and Medicare all throughout my working years and so denying me the promised payout now is tantamount to theft.”
Folks need to understand that our unfunded entitlement programs, combined with our national debt, are theft by those collecting today from those working tomorrow.
Does eat the rich mean Solent Green? Maybe we could turn Dim pols into Solent Green. All in favor say aye. And for a little extra spice maybe add some rinos.
I get into the same argument on these threads. The idea is so pervasive that people "paid into" a system and so someone "owes" them the money back. My questions to them is always "Who owes you this money?" The answer can't be "the government" because the government can't magically generate money. The people who spent the money--our parents and grandparents and prior generations--are dead. We aren't getting anything out of them. So do we borrow more and saddle our kids with debt? Or do we step up to the plate and pay as we go and live within our means?
They should show the silver-haired Florida retirees sitting on the lenai of their $750,000 condo in Naples fretting over Medicare.
Actually that is part of the problem......Rarely does anybody ever respond to these spurious accusations missing a huge teaching opportunity to get the truth out to the electorate.
By not responding, the lies are allowed to spread and grow and become the popular perception...Like the old saying goes..."Perception is reality."
The truth is long and boring.
Lies are clever, quick, and sexy.
Truth-tellers are always at a disadvantage.
Just so. Whenever people say that “the Government” owes them money they need to be reminded that the Government does not earn money, only people with private sector jobs and investments do. If anyone is owed money then their debtor must be some other human beings.
“Republicans Voted to End Medicare: How Will You Pay? (DCCC scare-ad)”
Really? Yet it was the democratically controlled Congress who, just a year or so ago, voted to cut 1/2 Trillion out of Medicare during a 10 year period. Where’s your outrage now?
Go figure—but they’re “fighting for you”, right? Pffft!
1995 called. They want their scare tactics back.
And so does 1980.
IF, DC would get serious about actually policing the Medicare Pie properly, this issue wouldn’t be such a contentious political football.
How do 2, just 2, scumbags manage to steal $200 Million out of the system BEFORE they got caught?
Only a frickin' idiot would NOT think seniors paid into a system. Nope, they didn't pay into a fund, a private account but they did pay in, and it was done by force, at the point of a gun. No Seniors I know voted for SS, that was way before their time and no vote was allowed any way. The thing to do is to phase it out, SS and Medicare both, starting at about age 45, raise the retirement age for now and eventually this ponzi scheme will go away.
To say Seniors drawing SS and Medicare today should just forget the thousands of frickin's dollars they paid into the government, against their will BTW, is f***ing insane and totally selfish on your part.
You may think you are right but you are totally wrong.
I agree 100%! Very well said. None of us had any choice but to pay in and we still don't. If people want to stop entitlement, stop Welfare. The seniors that have paid into the SS tax have probably worked all their lives. The true entitlement hogs are the welfare leeches, not seniors.
It’s not just welfare, it’s also the Earned Income Tax Credit. EITC was first estblished in the early 80’s to partially offset a big increase in SS witholding. EITC was limited to only the lowest wage earners and was less than the increase in SS witholding. Now, it’s just a welfare scheme where individual are given tax credits for taxes they don’t owe on income they never earned.
I would settle for a fourth of what has been taken out of my earnings over the years.
What happened to all the money that has been paid in over the years by millions of people I know it wasnt paid out to retired people, look at the millions of people who paid in all their lifes that never got anything back.
I have known at least three people who retired at 65 and died before they go their first check, how many died at 20 at 40 at 50 were did all this money go?
I agree with you 100% it went to people who never paid anything in.