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Poll: GOP's 2012 contenders unknown, unloved
CBSNews.com ^ | 04/21/2011 | Sarah Dutton, Jennifer De Pinto

Posted on 04/21/2011 11:34:21 AM PDT by OldDeckHand

It's early yet, but the Grand Old Party clearly has its work cut out to sell the voting American public on a candidate to challenge President Obama in the 2012 national election.

A 56 percent majority of Republican voters told a CBS News/New York Times poll that none of the names officially or unofficially in the hat at this stage made them feel enthusiastic as potential nominees.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; barbour; daniels; gingrich; giuliani; huckabee; huntsman; palin; pawlenty; polls; primary; republican; romney; santorum; trump
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To: OldDeckHand

Wow. Palin at 26% A, 55% D, 18% U...

MSM: Mission accomplished.


41 posted on 04/21/2011 12:40:20 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: OldDeckHand

I would love to know how they do that. Do tell. “ =========

The “duh” momment will come to you when you bother to feign some degree of interest in the “do tell” variables of any poll. For instance how the poll is weighted; by the turn of the question itself, Democrats over Republicans, or females over males, education level and ages of those polled, the geographic region(s) of the polling, etc., etc., etc.


42 posted on 04/21/2011 12:40:20 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: TLI
"That is only 44.3% republicans, not exactly "over sampled" by any definition I am aware of."

Actually, given the results of the last mid-term election, that is oversampled by roughly 7-points. The 2010 party identification numbers were split evenly amonst Dems-Republican 36/36 and 28% Indies, which I believe is one of the largest Indy representation in the modern era.

2010 Elections Exit Poll Analysis:

"Democrats and Republicans were at parity in self-identification nationally, 36-36 percent, a return to the close division seen in years before 2008, when it broke dramatically in the Democrats' favor, 40-33 percent."

43 posted on 04/21/2011 12:41:19 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: SoDak

I’ll tell you what. I found Huckabee to be a cagey SOB last time around. And if you look at RCP, he’s constantly number one. Palin’s numbers, not surprisingly, look similar to Fred Thompson’s. If Huckabee runs, I’m betting he wins IA and is a major player in SC.


44 posted on 04/21/2011 12:43:00 PM PDT by Huck (We must have universal healthcare. -- Donald Trump.)
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To: jessduntno

I, like many Americans would vote for the devil himself before I would not vote or vote for the fraud obama. Stay home...and not vote in this next election borders on treason IMHO...


45 posted on 04/21/2011 12:45:39 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: OldDeckHand
Who knew who Barack Obama was at this time in the campaign. Hell, we still don't know who he is.
46 posted on 04/21/2011 12:45:48 PM PDT by McGruff (When it comes to Obama's birth certificate. Trust, but verify.)
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To: RockinRight

When Palin starts running, those unfavorables will disappear like the morning dew. People who don’t pay attention to politics & get their info from the MSM tend to be “unfavorable.” One exposure to Sarah will convert the majority of them!


47 posted on 04/21/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by NJ_Tom (Who ever thought that Kenya would be the next nuclear power?)
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To: TLI

It is a weird poll, but, if more than half of ALL voters oppose Palin, she ain’t gonna beat Obama, at least today she wouldn’t.


48 posted on 04/21/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: RitaOK
All of that could have happened, but I don't see ANY evidence that it did happen. And, CBS pretty clearly discloses what the weighting was with respect to the party ID, and explains what might impact MOE.

More over, this CBS poll only is reporting on the candidate's favorability/unfavorability as well as their degree of familiarity with the electorate, the poll is not at all incongruous with RCP average.

Put another way, this poll is absolutely in-keeping with every other poll that I have seen the last few weeks.

49 posted on 04/21/2011 12:57:43 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

In other words, Huckabee can win, Romney might be able to, Palin can’t, and Trump would struggle (but if anyone can overcome negatives, it’s Trump). The others fall somewhere in the middle.


50 posted on 04/21/2011 1:03:32 PM PDT by RockinRight (Trump's "fake" conservatism is still better than the "real" conservatism of most of the GOP.)
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To: NJ_Tom
"One exposure to Sarah will convert the majority of them!"

You do realize that Palin leads all comers in the undecided/unknown category, right? That is to say, of all the people possibly running for the GOP nomination, Palin is EASILY the most recognized person, even a full 10-points ahead of Trump - a guy with his name on buildings literally all over the country, and on broadcast TV every Sunday night.

I would love to know how the person who is the best known with the most cemented opinion is going to "convert the majority of them".

At least 82% of the American public knows Sarah Palin and has already formed their opinion. Have you ever heard the term, "you don't get a second opportunity to introduce yourself to someone"?

51 posted on 04/21/2011 1:07:13 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Isn’t it just exhausting defending CBS/NYT polling, RCP, who average liberal over Republican polling 5/1?


52 posted on 04/21/2011 1:10:10 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: RockinRight
"The others fall somewhere in the middle."

I think that's true. If I'm Bachmann, Pawlenty, Barbour, Daniels or even Santorum, while I'm not happy with where I am, at least I'm comforted with the fact no one knows who I am also. At least there's MUCH room for improvement.

If I have high disapprovals and 80+% of the country knows who I am already, I know I'm toast.

53 posted on 04/21/2011 1:11:14 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: RitaOK
No, what's exhausting is seeing the same reflexive hostility to any poll that doesn't provide the desired results. Whenever one of these polls comes out that doesn't tow the desired line, the feedback is predictable.

Does the CBS poll lean to the left? Sure it does. Is it an outlier? Nope, not even close.

54 posted on 04/21/2011 1:15:05 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

“I, like many Americans would vote for the devil himself before I would not vote or vote for the fraud obama. Stay home...and not vote in this next election borders on treason IMHO...”

We were talking about primaries, no?
Thanks for the HO though.


55 posted on 04/21/2011 1:42:16 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: RockinRight
Huckabee might be worth reconsidering after seeing these numbers.

Or we could just keep the one we have.

56 posted on 04/21/2011 1:55:29 PM PDT by itsahoot (Almost everything I post is Sarcastic, since I have no sense of humor about lying politicians.)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Agreed.

I will vote for Gadaffi / Mubarak over Obama in 2012 if given the chance and choice.


57 posted on 04/21/2011 2:13:07 PM PDT by GlockThe Vote (F U B O ! ! !)
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To: OldDeckHand

No, what’s exhausting is seeing the same reflexive hostility to any poll that doesn’t provide the desired results. “ =============

I get it. You’re preaching to a choir member, but these polls have dang well earned every bit of the “reflexive hostility” and “the predictable feedback” by conservatives and most FReepers. The hostility and the commentary feedback
in this case is simply not a flaw. That’s my only point here.


58 posted on 04/21/2011 2:23:44 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: GlockThe Vote

” I will vote for Gadaffi / Mubarak over Obama in 2012 if given the chance... “ ===========

Someone cleverly posted “No MuBarack 2012” elsewhere. Something like that. Very bang on.


59 posted on 04/21/2011 2:27:45 PM PDT by RitaOK
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To: Huck

“Shows you how the freeper community doesn’t represent the GOP voters at large.”

This is true, FR is a Conservative site, not a Republican site. Conversely, the GOP doesn’t represent a majority of Americans, just look at how well the establishment GOP candidates tend to do in national elections...


60 posted on 04/21/2011 2:36:50 PM PDT by Boogieman
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