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Confusion over California's hands-free cellphone law
San Jose Mercury News ^ | April 19 | Gary Richards

Posted on 04/21/2011 8:09:30 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion

When the state's hands-free cellphone law was enacted three years ago, the rules seemed so simple. Holding a phone in your hand to make a call would be illegal. Few ifs, buts or maybes.

Then came a law against texting. Then came an explosion of phones that double as GPS devices, cameras, music players, voice recorders and email dispensers. And today, amid an unprecedented crackdown this month on cellphone scofflaws, what's legal and what's not has motorists and even some cops scratching their heads.

"When you look for loopholes, the whole issue of cellphone use, texting or distracted driving becomes confusing, if not overwhelming," said Officer Steve Creel of the California Highway Patrol.

For example, it's legal to read, select and enter a phone number while driving -- as long as you put the phone down before talking. But you can't send a text while sitting at a red light.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calegislation; cellphone; cellphones; hangupanddrive; iphone; stupiddrivers; stupidlaws; texting
The flow chart is great!
1 posted on 04/21/2011 8:09:33 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

No flame wars... oh, this is FreeRepublic. Never mind.

2 posted on 04/21/2011 8:12:17 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
You mean THIS flow chart?


3 posted on 04/21/2011 8:13:05 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
Or perhaps THIS flow chart?


4 posted on 04/21/2011 8:14:03 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
But this one is good, too...


5 posted on 04/21/2011 8:15:30 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Bacon-Health Graph
6 posted on 04/21/2011 8:23:16 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 819 of our national holiday from reality. - What 3 AM phone call?)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Distracted driving is a sufficient crime to cover all this stuff without having to refer to a flow chart. It is ridiculous idiocy on the part of lawmakers to make specific crimes that take judgement away from the enforcing officers.


7 posted on 04/21/2011 8:28:15 PM PDT by Jagermonster (They will not force us. They will stop degrading us. They will not control us. We will be victorious)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

You made my day! Thanks!!


8 posted on 04/21/2011 8:31:51 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: Jagermonster
That’s what I thought, but the police and CHP have been made into revenue collectors for the state. Do they stop you because you’re on the phone, or because you’re driving erratically?

At one time, monitoring speed was supposed to keep the roads safe. But with California overspending like drunken Congressmen...

9 posted on 04/21/2011 8:38:20 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Bttt.


10 posted on 04/21/2011 8:44:35 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Jagermonster
I sorta know what you mean, but if you have ever traveled with a crying baby or toddler in the back seat that you can't reach to calm down - that is the most distracting thing I can think of.
I am waiting for CA to outlaw kids.
11 posted on 04/21/2011 8:44:35 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

bacon!


12 posted on 04/21/2011 8:45:38 PM PDT by Drango (NO-vember is payback for April 15th)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Talking to passengers in the car while driving is every bit as distracting as talking on the phone. Why hasn’t that been outlawed too?


13 posted on 04/21/2011 9:10:19 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Jagermonster

Well,you know that laws are made by lawyers for lawyers to interpete, and you know lawyers gotta work to,ya gotta love it


14 posted on 04/21/2011 9:19:22 PM PDT by munin (Enki did it,)
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To: munin

Rent-seeking.


15 posted on 04/21/2011 9:23:18 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

I sent that to my entire mailing list. I knew a girl who had a dog named Dante, once.


16 posted on 04/21/2011 9:27:45 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Glad you liked it. It’s a favorite. My daughter’s cat is named “Dante,” too! He loves turkey and tuna — haven’t tried bacon yet, though.


17 posted on 04/21/2011 9:57:40 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

A month ago, a friend and I took a trip to San Francisco... on the way we say TWO drivers not using their phones for conversations... but they both had a laptop propped up on the dashboard behind the steering wheel, watching a movie! One on the way to SF, one on the way home. Both in rush hour traffic! Sheesh!


18 posted on 04/21/2011 10:18:30 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: svcw
I am waiting for CA to outlaw kids.

they sorta have... it's called abortion on demand...

19 posted on 04/21/2011 10:20:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion
When the state's hands-free cellphone law was enacted three years ago, the rules seemed so simple. Holding a phone in your hand to make a call would be illegal. Few ifs, buts or maybes.

Well that should cut cell-phone use right down.

20 posted on 04/22/2011 12:32:46 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.- H. L. Mencken)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

At least one clarifying note needs to be made to the chart.
“Driving” as far as California law is concerned means “with the engine running.” Thus it is also illegal to talk on a cell phone while PARKED in a public parking lot or on the side of a road—if the engine is running. (A friend who is a cop informed me of this.)


21 posted on 04/22/2011 6:01:11 AM PDT by ZGuy
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