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Can Obama use DOJ lawyers to defend himself against eligbility lawsuits?
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Posted on 04/22/2011 12:24:15 PM PDT by klb99

I just received a fund-raising email from United States Justice Foundation (www.usjf.net) who seem to be doing the Lord's work. It says that O is using DOJ lawyers, at taxpayers expense, to defend him against the USJF eligibility lawsuit. It seems to me that his defense should be a personal expense for him. Does anyone on FR have any knowledge of the legality of this? If it's legal, it's totally outrageous and infuriating.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eligibility

1 posted on 04/22/2011 12:24:18 PM PDT by klb99
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To: klb99

Who’s going to stop him?

Obama is a fraud who has already committed crimes, such as social security fraud.

He has told Congress and the Supreme Court, over various issues, to shove it!


2 posted on 04/22/2011 12:26:57 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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I would think not....since his eligibility would have been an issue BEFORE he became President

Another facet of this issue that needs to be explored....and more reason to question the Liberal GOP Media for siding with Obama on this, and not supporting conservatives.


3 posted on 04/22/2011 12:27:27 PM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: klb99

Well our lion-hearted Republicans certainly won’t make a fuss, now will they. If gutlessness were a requirement for office, I doubt there would be a Democrat on the Hill!!!


4 posted on 04/22/2011 12:32:05 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: SatinDoll

What a bunch of spineless gutless pansies the politicians are. Even the dems, if they were honest human beings, would be appalled at what this guy is doing. The GOP says NOTHING.....in fact they say “leave it alone”.


5 posted on 04/22/2011 12:33:03 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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Did clinton use DOJ lawyers as defense of the blow job lies?


6 posted on 04/22/2011 12:34:38 PM PDT by FrankR (Liberals Don't Have Scruples, Judgement or Morals...only MOTIVES.)
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To: klb99

Why does he have to defend himself. Surely, the most powerful man on the planet could get somebody to release the long form BC.


7 posted on 04/22/2011 12:42:25 PM PDT by umgud
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To: klb99
It's a little complicated, and will probably be misunderstood by the casual observer, but the short answer is, "up to a point".

It's unlikely that if any of these cases would ever be heard on the merits (and thus far, noen have), that the DoJ would continue to assist in Obama's defense. Generally, the DoJ and White House Counsel's office are forbidden from assisting the president, or any member of government, from ethical inquiries. This would be a kind of ethical inquiry, or at a minimum would have ethical implications.

Also, attorney-client privilege as it's generally understood does not apply between the president and the DoJ, or the White House, so that too would make assisting in this kind of case, problematic and highly unlikely.

8 posted on 04/22/2011 12:42:25 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: FrankR
"Did clinton use DOJ lawyers as defense of the blow job lies?"

No. The DoJ nor the White House Counsel's office are permitted to assist the executive against impeachment proceedings.

9 posted on 04/22/2011 12:46:31 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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He shouldn’t be using taxpayer money to defend himself.


10 posted on 04/22/2011 12:58:20 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: FrankR
Did clinton use DOJ lawyers as defense of the blow job lies?

I remember it well...it was Kenneth Starr vs. Carville & Begala.

Starr lost.

11 posted on 04/22/2011 1:24:10 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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I have no problem with his using the DOJ to defend himself while in office. If he wasn’t able to— EVERY president would be sued constantly by people of the opposite political persuasion until they were dead broke.

After he’s found to be guilty of fraud, however, he should have to repay all legal expenses incurred by the taxpayers.


12 posted on 04/22/2011 1:26:45 PM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: klb99
Can Obama use DOJ lawyers to defend himself against eligbility lawsuits?

If you made Bill Ayers the Director of the FBI, would he blow up his own office?

Can an illegal alien commit a crime, if he's not supposed to be here in the first place?

If a pantomime shoots himself, will the gun make any noise?

13 posted on 04/22/2011 2:33:51 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Congress “found” him eligible, so at this point, it is Congress+Obama defending eligibility. Congress can spend public money as it sees fit.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 2:37:23 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Egon
-- I have no problem with his using the DOJ to defend himself while in office. --

The short answer is "it depends." If he's being sued for breach of private contract or similar, then he is on his own. Most civil causes of action are outside of conlaw, so the president is, in the main, on his own when it comes to legal defense.

Congress does allocate specific money to legal cases involving its members, and should render similar assistance, in appropriate cases, to the president.

But the case of presidential eligibility implies a Congressional finding in favor of Obama being qualified.

15 posted on 04/22/2011 2:48:14 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Egon
I have no problem with his using the DOJ to defend himself while in office.

If he is being sued for something he did while in office, of course the DOJ should defend him.

But, if he is being challenged over something that occurred before he assumed office, then the President is required to employ a personal lawyer.

This was the case for Clinton, remember. He was being sued for sexual harrassment while he was serving as Governor of Arkansas.

16 posted on 04/22/2011 2:58:42 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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