Skip to comments.Swiftboating President Obama (Partial barf alert)
Posted on 04/22/2011 1:22:32 PM PDT by libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread? A Public Policy Polling survey this week showed that 48 percent of Iowa Republicans don't believe President Obama was born in the United States. Donald Trumps potential presidential candidacy has support despite or maybe because of his asking questions about the presidents actual birthplace. In May, WND Books will publish Where's the Birth Certificate?, which, as I write, is No. 2 on Amazon.com. The author is Jerome Corsi, the man behind Unfit for Command and the swiftboating of John Kerry. The connection is important: Birtherism may be to the 2012 election what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were to 2004.
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Just release the birth certificate. What’s the problem O?
Can’t you just smell the fear? LOL!!!
Wow. NY Slimes and Wash Po cover pieces out the same day for Zero on this issue. Must be getting close!
Birtherism may be to the 2012 election what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were to 2004”
Well, let’s hope so anyway. Or that it be more Swiftboat than in 2004.
We need footage of Obama campaigning in Kenya- maybe he says where he came from there, when he was campaigning for his cousin. Wasn’t he a senator than?
We passed the usefulness of a long form BC for this Barry the Bastard long ago. A forged COLB was posted for America’s gullible, but quickly the purposed erasurte of every credible shred of this OSB’s life history means that now we require his college records, including his methods of tuition payment and how he regitered/what status, and his extensive passport records. This lying Klown Bastard is a democrap party shaft up the rear of the Republic, meanrt to end the Constitutional Republic the Democrats didn’t like any longer beacuse it stood in the way of their criminal enterprises and rule by federal fiat.
Isn’t it amazing how in the liberal mindset the term “Swiftboating” is now a synonym for an unwarranted and baseless claim, when it was the complete inverse in fact - the Swift Boat guys SERVED with Kerry and were the ones who knew what actually happened, rather than the self-created mythology.
Now, they are making “Birther” synonymous with some sort of unwarranted attack on Obama, when he never has, in fact, revealed his birth certificate and there still remains the question of “natural born citizen” in any event.
Kerry never did reveal his military records. Obama never has revealed any records. The parallels between Swift Boat and Birther/Proofer is very close in a manner that is 180 degrees opposed from what the author thinks!!
But the snowball was rolling and suddenly the MSM freaked out a lit a fire under Kerry who then tried to dispute the facts.
As we know, Kerry got beat bad by the book and the Swift Boat Veterans.
Now, the MSM finds itself back in that same predicament of: do they ignore this new book and the bc issue as much as possible? - and how much does Obama himself need to speak out against it and how often should he do so?
This is going to be interesting to watch. One thing is certain, their secret polling is in overdrive.
The Illegal was a U.S. senator then.
Here, let me help you out with that question, jerkoff: When a President goes out of his way to criticize the country at every opportunity, does everything he can to undermine and weaken it, and bows to foreign heads out of obeisance and submission, right thinking people conclude he's not a true American.
When did “SWIFT BOATING” become a word to run from?
I say, darn straight! SWIFTBOAT away and be proud of it!
Truth works and it hurts. Don’t run away from your accusers.
RUN INTO ACCUSATIONS. Force them defend their remarks.
I FOLLOW PALIN!
SHE’S THE ONLY ONE LEADING!
How about the timeline of citizenship progression over the last 50 years?
-The search for the hidden birth certificate is a synecdoche for the idea that Obama is not really one of us.
Did he call me a douche?
Whatever it takes. This disastrous presidency must end in 2012.
TRANSLATION: "We keep telling them to pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Why won't they obey us?"
swiftboating (v) 1. Telling the truth about Democrats.
I'm not saying this is what's happening, but it is possible.e
I'm perfectly willing to believe that he was born in Honolulu. I don't believe he meets the "natural born citizen" requirement for a different reason--his father was not a citizen of the US when he was born. But the legal explanation for why he is not a "natural born citizen" is too hard for most people to understand--and 90% of lawyers are Democrats (rough estimate) and they would spout sophistries to obscure the legal issue.
The media is trying to make this into a major issue in order to help Obama--to allow them to portray his critics as crackpots and to divert attention from other issues.
Sgt. Harris of passport breach fame took a bullet for the birther cause. Is it time for a martyr rally-cry?
BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT OBAMA:
What Americans know for certain about this issue, is that there is something about Obamas original birth registration including its history of any amendments or alterations later made to it, which if they do not disqualify him Constitutionally as President, would in Obamas own judgment more probably than not disqualify him electorially. Under the dominant leftist dogma since Watergate, even the appearance of impropriety would be a basis for impeachment, so the burden on clearing this up belongs with Obama, and he and the MSM have failed to do so while continuing to spew falsehoods and innuendo to prevent a full inquiry and resolution.
This issue becomes more understandable when it is made clear that based on Hawaii law and regulations the information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.
The reason that the COLB is meaningless is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including first, the original registration info which remains unknown in Obama’s case; second, the INDEX of data extracted and maintained by the HI Health Dept which may not be complete and may be different from original registration information; and, third, the info requested and issued in a COLB, which may quite readily not conform to the original registration nor have been validated by any objective evidence but which is typically based solely upon extracting information from the current contents of the INDEX without disclosing prior changes or details of the original registration. When HI official have issued carefully parsed statements suggesting they have looked at their internal records to confirm BHO birth info it is clear that at best all they have done is look at the currently INDEXED data base, not the original records which may have been sealed, but which a HI Governor has suggested cant even be found.
There are multiple and myriad ways in Hawaii in 1961 and since, that the original registration information may have been filed based upon an other than a normal hospital birth registration. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed late registrations including,registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens; amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the birth fathers name on the original record. In consequence of these many variations, authorized by Hawaii statutes, regulations and policies, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the modified or altered INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.
But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent or guardian, possibly without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. Delayed Birth Registration (..additional evidence MAY [or may not] be required). President Obamas original Hawaii registration may well have been based on no more than an unverified statement by his mother or grandparents under then existing law. Making the COLB not only meaningless but materially misleading.
Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.
A significant additional factor in continuing doubt as to Obamas progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace; and, as well, the seamy and facile way the MSM, such as the NYT resorts to and uses blatant deceit and unfounded nonsense to proclaim unfounded hearsay or rebuttable presumptions have already resolved this issue.
Keep that MSM cover up going, Jennifer. Problem is, too many are catching on.
Get a CLUEPON! The "birther" exists because of MEDIA MALPRACTICE!
There have been a few legal lawsuits filed related to Obama’s birth certificate.
The very first one filed was filed by a good Democrat in Pennsylvania named Philip Berg.
If the birther thing is something cooked up by the lunatic fringe, then why would a good Democrat have been one to file a lawsuit over the issue?
I was at the VA (Texas) the other day and a bunch of vets were talking and to a man (about a dozen) they all said obama is a fraud and if he didn’t have anything to hide why was he not showing his BC.. Now these fellows are not what one would call deep thinkers but they have all come to the conclusion that zero is lying. Amazingly enough only a couple had internet access.. I asked them if their kids had told them about all this in that the alphabet news organizations barely mention it. They all said yes....
Uh, maybe because 100% of American voters birth certificates look a whole lot different than the one being presented as Barry's.
Additionally they all agreed that they thought he was a muslim and a few went on to say he was planted here. So folks the word is getting out to the so called “small people” and they are not happy. We have the senior member of the House of Representatives here who is an 86 yr old ex naval aviator and ex Democrat who votes very conservative and is virtually unheard of except at election time....they were not kind in their remarks about him not standing up to obama ruining the country that we all got shot at defending.... The feeling here in North Texas and Southern Oklahoma is that the natives are pizzed....and they will vote for anyone to get rid of obama and democrats...
You should have seen what happened at the Passover Seder I attended on Monday evening! I was at my son in-law's parents' home in Northern Virginia so most of the people who were there were only casual acquaintances.
When we got rolling on politics and it was clear that my end of the table was populated by knee-jerk liberals, I started to educate. I mentioned a number of things which I generally ended with, "Google Obama 57 States," "Google Obama bow Saudi King," etc. None of the people I was talking to believed any of the things I was saying was true.
But one guy took out his iPhone and found the video of the bow to the Saudi King. It was REALLY amusing to see the liberals passing around this guy's iPhone, and then to debate amongst themselves whether this was appropriate or not (with me occasionally pouring gasoline on the fire).
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
Ludicrous? Gee! No bias there! /s ( only 4 words into the essay!)
The birthers are fact based. It is the afterbirthers who resort to conspiracy theory to explain the unbelievable.
Fact: Obama has never proven his natural born citizenship.
Fact: The only evidence available are Internet images of dubious origin, carefully crafted and massaged statements from Fukino that clarify nothing, and hearsay from Lingle and Abercrombie.
Fact: Obama has used tax paid attorneys and private attorneys around the nation to prevent the release of common documents that ordinary Americans routinely release.
Fact: A **real** American would be HONORED to promptly prove with all the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief and president. He would be especially pleased to do this for our military.
It is as hard as John Kerry releasing his form 180. It might be even more difficult, if the BC just doesn’t exist... for Hawaii.
Might as well ask Continetti and his ilk why Obama's US-born status is so taken for granted. What evidence do they have that it is true?
A patently forged COLB isn't evidence.
So funny!!! :D
The SwiftboatVets were what brought me to this site in 2003 against F’n sKerry...
WE know what Swiftboating means... to bring the trueth out, no matter what.. Why can’t they figure it out?
never-mind.. rhetorical question ;)
For him. He would be crucified for playing games with the American people. He spent millions blocking access. All of this to set a trap?
Once we have the long form birth certificate and it shows that Obama Sr. was the father, a legal challenge should be launched that Obama is not a natural born citizen under the Constitution. His father was a British national.
I anticipate that at least one state will pass a law requiring the long form. And I think we all know that Obama must be hiding something.
I don’t recall that there were any accusations by the swift boat vets that turned out to be untrue. I note that in this article no actual examples of false accusations by swift boat vets are given while it is admitted that Kerry engaged in at least one whopper.
The MSM is trying to protect Obama and themselves. The objective is to prevent further inquiry into the issue by demonizing those who ask legitimate questions. Obama could end it all by just producing the long form of the birth certificate, which we have been told over and over again by Hawaiian government officials and the Obama administration. The majority of the public has questions about Obama's birth narrative. They want to see the document. The MSM would lose all credibility if it is found that the long form certificate provides information that will shock the country. It would, ipso facto, demonstrate that the MSM did not do its job.
For Obama, it may be a distraction in getting out his own message. I see no problem in going after Obama on his policies and on his personal narrative. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Were the SBVFT a distraction for Bush or Kerry? If I recall, the Kerry campaign froze like a deer in the headlights for more than three weeks. They were on the defense and never recovered. Rove, McCain, and Bush criticized the SBVFT, but they saved the GOP's sorry ass.
As a public service:
a figure of speech in which a part is used for the whole or the whole for a part, the special for the general or the general for the special, as in ten sail for ten ships or a Croesus for a rich man.
So if being a “birther” is the SAME as believing the “Swiftboaters” (who’s evidence was NEVER disproven, not even by the MSM), then I am a birther after all. Even though I don’t want to be. I’m on record saying that I do think Obama was probably born in HI, I am just baffled by all of the efforts to shut up people who are simply asking questions about the COLB.
The author writes as though Corsi writing about John Kerry and the Swiftboats should be held against Corsi.
Mr Corsi helped save us from electing the cowardly war criminal with the band-aid purple hearts from the White House.
Hopefully he can help us to put this fake president out of Public Housing.
So Corsi’s being accused of outing two frauds? Where’s the problem?
So no-one including the Washington Post can prove what hospital he was born in and they think we’re crazy. The real truth is that they have so much invested in Obama that have to hang on at all costs. In addition, what if it were proved that he wasn’t legit? No MSM could stand because they will have been stripped bare of any fig leaf of credibility they have for not outing him in the first place.
Yep. Obama was perfectly happy to see Col. Lakin’s life and career ruined for his own selfish purposes.
Today our local radio has had on the news every hour the story of ‘a soldier who refused to obey order. Col. Lakin was sentenced to 6 months, etc. etc., etc.’ My memory is that he was sentenced in December and taken right off to Leavenworth. Is there a reason it’s on news today (4/11/11)?
Because this 'conspiracy' is 1,000% Obama's fault for refusing to do what any rational, honest and above board individual would have done the first time a question was raised: release his original Hawaiian birth certificate from 1961.
It's so simple.
As far as “Swiftboating” is concerned a little
history is in order. In modern prez/vp political
campaigns Dan Quayle was the first candidate to
be ripped about his failure to serve in the military
in a war zone. This was true even though WWII com-
bat fighter pilot GHW Bush was at the top of the tic-
ket. That Dem strategy failed. In ‘92 the GOP tried
to return the favor by attacking Clinton. It didn’t
work for the GOP either. In fact Kerry stuck-up for
Clinton. In ‘96 the GOP tried this tactic again with
WWII combat wounded Bob Dole against the incumbent
Clinton. The tactic still didn’t work. In ‘00 the
Dems took their shots at GW’s military record and,
again, the tactic failed.
So, by ‘04 one would think that both parties would
give up on playing the war record card, but not Kerry.
He whooped it out against an incumbent GOP prez and
got called on his own record. Boo freakin’ hoo for
On a side note, in ‘08 it appeared that the GOP did
not play the military service card although McCain’s
POW experience was a bit of a human interest story.
Anyone want to bet that the Dems won’t dredge the
military record issue up the next time they get the
“Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?”
Because Soetoro’s spent $2M to hide all his documentation. Duh.
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