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Swiftboating President Obama (Partial barf alert)
Washington Post ^ | April 22, 2011 | Matthew Continetti

Posted on 04/22/2011 1:22:32 PM PDT by libstripper

Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread? A Public Policy Polling survey this week showed that 48 percent of Iowa Republicans don't believe President Obama was born in the United States. Donald Trump’s potential presidential candidacy has support despite — or maybe because of — his “asking questions” about the president’s actual birthplace. In May, WND Books will publish “Where's the Birth Certificate?,” which, as I write, is No. 2 on Amazon.com. The author is Jerome Corsi, the man behind “Unfit for Command” and the “swiftboating” of John Kerry. The connection is important: “Birtherism” may be to the 2012 election what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were to 2004.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allegedlyamerican; allegedlyeligible; allegedlyhawaiian; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; trump
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Continetti, a true Obama/Kerry shill, who still denies the absoulte reality of the Swiftvets' enirely accurate charges agaisnt the Traitor, nevertheless realizes that we 2012 Birthers could well become the electoral equivalent of the 2004 Swiftvets, whom many of us, myself proudly included, ardently supported.
1 posted on 04/22/2011 1:22:38 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Just release the birth certificate. What’s the problem O?


2 posted on 04/22/2011 1:24:37 PM PDT by sitkaspruce
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To: libstripper

Can’t you just smell the fear? LOL!!!


3 posted on 04/22/2011 1:24:40 PM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: sodpoodle

Wow. NY Slimes and Wash Po cover pieces out the same day for Zero on this issue. Must be getting close!


4 posted on 04/22/2011 1:27:01 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: libstripper

“Birtherism” may be to the 2012 election what the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were to 2004”

Well, let’s hope so anyway. Or that it be more Swiftboat than in 2004.

We need footage of Obama campaigning in Kenya- maybe he says where he came from there, when he was campaigning for his cousin. Wasn’t he a senator than?


5 posted on 04/22/2011 1:29:02 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: sitkaspruce

We passed the usefulness of a long form BC for this Barry the Bastard long ago. A forged COLB was posted for America’s gullible, but quickly the purposed erasurte of every credible shred of this OSB’s life history means that now we require his college records, including his methods of tuition payment and how he regitered/what status, and his extensive passport records. This lying Klown Bastard is a democrap party shaft up the rear of the Republic, meanrt to end the Constitutional Republic the Democrats didn’t like any longer beacuse it stood in the way of their criminal enterprises and rule by federal fiat.


6 posted on 04/22/2011 1:29:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: libstripper

Isn’t it amazing how in the liberal mindset the term “Swiftboating” is now a synonym for an unwarranted and baseless claim, when it was the complete inverse in fact - the Swift Boat guys SERVED with Kerry and were the ones who knew what actually happened, rather than the self-created mythology.

Now, they are making “Birther” synonymous with some sort of unwarranted attack on Obama, when he never has, in fact, revealed his birth certificate and there still remains the question of “natural born citizen” in any event.

Kerry never did reveal his military records. Obama never has revealed any records. The parallels between Swift Boat and Birther/Proofer is very close in a manner that is 180 degrees opposed from what the author thinks!!


7 posted on 04/22/2011 1:31:07 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: libstripper
The MSM is in a real “bad place” right now because remember when the “Unfit for Command” book came out they totally ignored it and Kerry naturally followed their lead for 3 or 4 months ignoring it.

But the snowball was rolling and suddenly the MSM freaked out a lit a fire under Kerry who then tried to dispute the facts.

As we know, Kerry got beat bad by the book and the Swift Boat Veterans.

Now, the MSM finds itself back in that same predicament of: do they ignore this new book and the bc issue as much as possible? - and how much does Obama himself need to speak out against it and how often should he do so?

This is going to be interesting to watch. One thing is certain, their secret polling is in overdrive.

8 posted on 04/22/2011 1:32:09 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: DBrow

The Illegal was a U.S. senator then.


9 posted on 04/22/2011 1:34:26 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

Here, let me help you out with that question, jerkoff: When a President goes out of his way to criticize the country at every opportunity, does everything he can to undermine and weaken it, and bows to foreign heads out of obeisance and submission, right thinking people conclude he's not a true American.

10 posted on 04/22/2011 1:35:47 PM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: libstripper

When did “SWIFT BOATING” become a word to run from?

I say, darn straight! SWIFTBOAT away and be proud of it!

Truth works and it hurts. Don’t run away from your accusers.
RUN INTO ACCUSATIONS. Force them defend their remarks.

Sheesh!

I FOLLOW PALIN!

SHE’S THE ONLY ONE LEADING!


11 posted on 04/22/2011 1:35:55 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: libstripper
Where's the passport for the vacation in Poke-e-staan?

How about the timeline of citizenship progression over the last 50 years?

12 posted on 04/22/2011 1:36:15 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: libstripper

-The search for the hidden birth certificate is a synecdoche for the idea that Obama is not really “one of us.”

Did he call me a douche?


13 posted on 04/22/2011 1:36:56 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: libstripper

Whatever it takes. This disastrous presidency must end in 2012.


14 posted on 04/22/2011 1:38:38 PM PDT by mom.mom
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To: libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

TRANSLATION: "We keep telling them to pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. Why won't they obey us?"

15 posted on 04/22/2011 1:39:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: libstripper

swiftboating (v) 1. Telling the truth about Democrats.


16 posted on 04/22/2011 1:40:06 PM PDT by stratman1969
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To: sitkaspruce
One possibility, could be he's planning to use his birth certificate as the mother of all "Tar Babies". Think about it, he waits until just before the next election. As the turmoil builds...low and behold he finds it. And there is nothing remarkable about it. He was born in Hawaii, etc, etc. Now how bad would those raising question look? It'd be one heck of a trap.

I'm not saying this is what's happening, but it is possible.e

17 posted on 04/22/2011 1:40:36 PM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: sitkaspruce
If there was nothing embarrassing about the birth certificate, he would have paid $10 for a copy and released it in 2008. That he has spent so much money fighting this shows there is something the matter.

I'm perfectly willing to believe that he was born in Honolulu. I don't believe he meets the "natural born citizen" requirement for a different reason--his father was not a citizen of the US when he was born. But the legal explanation for why he is not a "natural born citizen" is too hard for most people to understand--and 90% of lawyers are Democrats (rough estimate) and they would spout sophistries to obscure the legal issue.

The media is trying to make this into a major issue in order to help Obama--to allow them to portray his critics as crackpots and to divert attention from other issues.

18 posted on 04/22/2011 1:42:53 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Red Dog #1

Sgt. Harris of passport breach fame took a bullet for the birther cause. Is it time for a martyr rally-cry?


19 posted on 04/22/2011 1:43:04 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Red Dog #1
If Obama did that then he would look really bad on how the document gets released to benefit himself, but an Army Doctor had his career and life ruined.
20 posted on 04/22/2011 1:43:26 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: sodpoodle

21 posted on 04/22/2011 1:43:48 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (One of these days, Alice....one of these days.....POW!! Right in the kisser!!!!)
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To: libstripper

BECAUSE THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT OBAMA:

What Americans know for certain about this issue, is that there is something about Obama’s original birth registration including its history of any amendments or alterations later made to it, which if they do not disqualify him Constitutionally as President, would in Obama’s own judgment more probably than not disqualify him electorially. Under the dominant leftist dogma since Watergate, even the appearance of impropriety would be a basis for impeachment, so the burden on clearing this up belongs with Obama, and he and the MSM have failed to do so while continuing to spew falsehoods and innuendo to prevent a full inquiry and resolution.

This issue becomes more understandable when it is made clear that based on Hawaii law and regulations the information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.

The reason that the COLB is meaningless is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including first, the original registration info which remains unknown in Obama’s case; second, the INDEX of data extracted and maintained by the HI Health Dept which may not be complete and may be different from original registration information; and, third, the info requested and issued in a COLB, which may quite readily not conform to the original registration nor have been validated by any objective evidence but which is typically based solely upon extracting information from the current contents of the INDEX without disclosing prior changes or details of the original registration. When HI official have issued carefully parsed statements suggesting they have looked at their internal records to confirm BHO birth info it is clear that at best all they have done is look at the currently INDEXED data base, not the original records which may have been sealed, but which a HI Governor has suggested cant even be found.

There are multiple and myriad ways in Hawaii in 1961 and since, that the original registration information may have been filed based upon an other than a “normal” hospital birth registration. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed “late registrations” including,“registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens”; amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the birth fathers name on the original record. In consequence of these many variations, authorized by Hawaii statutes, regulations and policies, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the modified or altered INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.

But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent or guardian, possibly without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. “Delayed Birth Registration” (”..additional evidence MAY [or may not] be required”). President Obama’s original Hawaii registration may well have been based on no more than an unverified statement by his mother or grandparents under then existing law. Making the COLB not only meaningless but materially misleading.

Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.

A significant additional factor in continuing doubt as to Obama’s progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace; and, as well, the seamy and facile way the MSM, such as the NYT resorts to and uses blatant deceit and unfounded nonsense to proclaim unfounded hearsay or rebuttable presumptions have already resolved this issue.


22 posted on 04/22/2011 1:44:19 PM PDT by Gail Wynand
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To: libstripper

Keep that MSM cover up going, Jennifer. Problem is, too many are catching on.


23 posted on 04/22/2011 1:44:53 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

Get a CLUEPON! The "birther" exists because of MEDIA MALPRACTICE!

24 posted on 04/22/2011 1:46:36 PM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: missnry

There have been a few legal lawsuits filed related to Obama’s birth certificate.

The very first one filed was filed by a good Democrat in Pennsylvania named Philip Berg.

If the birther thing is something cooked up by the lunatic fringe, then why would a good Democrat have been one to file a lawsuit over the issue?


25 posted on 04/22/2011 2:01:55 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: libstripper

I was at the VA (Texas) the other day and a bunch of vets were talking and to a man (about a dozen) they all said obama is a fraud and if he didn’t have anything to hide why was he not showing his BC.. Now these fellows are not what one would call deep thinkers but they have all come to the conclusion that zero is lying. Amazingly enough only a couple had internet access.. I asked them if their kids had told them about all this in that the alphabet news organizations barely mention it. They all said yes....


26 posted on 04/22/2011 2:02:39 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

Uh, maybe because 100% of American voters birth certificates look a whole lot different than the one being presented as Barry's.

27 posted on 04/22/2011 2:05:58 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Jo Nuvark
No one wants to be Corsi'ed!
28 posted on 04/22/2011 2:08:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: RVN Airplane Driver

Additionally they all agreed that they thought he was a muslim and a few went on to say he was planted here. So folks the word is getting out to the so called “small people” and they are not happy. We have the senior member of the House of Representatives here who is an 86 yr old ex naval aviator and ex Democrat who votes very conservative and is virtually unheard of except at election time....they were not kind in their remarks about him not standing up to obama ruining the country that we all got shot at defending.... The feeling here in North Texas and Southern Oklahoma is that the natives are pizzed....and they will vote for anyone to get rid of obama and democrats...


29 posted on 04/22/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Dahoser; justiceseeker93
bows to foreign heads out of obeisance and submission

You should have seen what happened at the Passover Seder I attended on Monday evening! I was at my son in-law's parents' home in Northern Virginia so most of the people who were there were only casual acquaintances.

When we got rolling on politics and it was clear that my end of the table was populated by knee-jerk liberals, I started to educate. I mentioned a number of things which I generally ended with, "Google Obama 57 States," "Google Obama bow Saudi King," etc. None of the people I was talking to believed any of the things I was saying was true.

But one guy took out his iPhone and found the video of the bow to the Saudi King. It was REALLY amusing to see the liberals passing around this guy's iPhone, and then to debate amongst themselves whether this was appropriate or not (with me occasionally pouring gasoline on the fire).

ML/NJ

30 posted on 04/22/2011 2:08:43 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: libstripper
The Diversion continues.

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House he is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

31 posted on 04/22/2011 2:18:17 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: libstripper
ludicrous birther conspiracy theory...
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ludicrous? Gee! No bias there! /s ( only 4 words into the essay!)

The birthers are fact based. It is the afterbirthers who resort to conspiracy theory to explain the unbelievable.

Fact: Obama has never proven his natural born citizenship.

Fact: The only evidence available are Internet images of dubious origin, carefully crafted and massaged statements from Fukino that clarify nothing, and hearsay from Lingle and Abercrombie.

Fact: Obama has used tax paid attorneys and private attorneys around the nation to prevent the release of common documents that ordinary Americans routinely release.

Fact: A **real** American would be HONORED to promptly prove with all the best evidence that he was a natural born citizen and eligible to be Commander in Chief and president. He would be especially pleased to do this for our military.

32 posted on 04/22/2011 2:25:21 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: sitkaspruce

It is as hard as John Kerry releasing his form 180. It might be even more difficult, if the BC just doesn’t exist... for Hawaii.


33 posted on 04/22/2011 2:28:28 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

Might as well ask Continetti and his ilk why Obama's US-born status is so taken for granted. What evidence do they have that it is true?

A patently forged COLB isn't evidence.

34 posted on 04/22/2011 2:28:59 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: libstripper

So funny!!! :D

The SwiftboatVets were what brought me to this site in 2003 against F’n sKerry...

WE know what Swiftboating means... to bring the trueth out, no matter what.. Why can’t they figure it out?

never-mind.. rhetorical question ;)

Bikk


35 posted on 04/22/2011 2:29:03 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Red Dog #1
It'd be one heck of a trap.

For him. He would be crucified for playing games with the American people. He spent millions blocking access. All of this to set a trap?

Once we have the long form birth certificate and it shows that Obama Sr. was the father, a legal challenge should be launched that Obama is not a natural born citizen under the Constitution. His father was a British national.

I anticipate that at least one state will pass a law requiring the long form. And I think we all know that Obama must be hiding something.

36 posted on 04/22/2011 2:30:10 PM PDT by kabar
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To: libstripper
SwiftBoating is the act of telling the truth about a worthless and evil communist MF’er while a communist media reports ALL TRUTH THAT IS SPOKEN, AS LIES... this propaganda starts from an order by satan and carried out by his minions.

LLS

37 posted on 04/22/2011 2:31:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!!!)
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To: rockvillem

I don’t recall that there were any accusations by the swift boat vets that turned out to be untrue. I note that in this article no actual examples of false accusations by swift boat vets are given while it is admitted that Kerry engaged in at least one whopper.


38 posted on 04/22/2011 2:34:11 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
The media is trying to make this into a major issue in order to help Obama--to allow them to portray his critics as crackpots and to divert attention from other issues.

The MSM is trying to protect Obama and themselves. The objective is to prevent further inquiry into the issue by demonizing those who ask legitimate questions. Obama could end it all by just producing the long form of the birth certificate, which we have been told over and over again by Hawaiian government officials and the Obama administration. The majority of the public has questions about Obama's birth narrative. They want to see the document. The MSM would lose all credibility if it is found that the long form certificate provides information that will shock the country. It would, ipso facto, demonstrate that the MSM did not do its job.

For Obama, it may be a distraction in getting out his own message. I see no problem in going after Obama on his policies and on his personal narrative. We can walk and chew gum at the same time. Were the SBVFT a distraction for Bush or Kerry? If I recall, the Kerry campaign froze like a deer in the headlights for more than three weeks. They were on the defense and never recovered. Rove, McCain, and Bush criticized the SBVFT, but they saved the GOP's sorry ass.

39 posted on 04/22/2011 2:43:00 PM PDT by kabar
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To: libstripper
#1 at Amazon - Preorder your copy now.


40 posted on 04/22/2011 2:46:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: libstripper
The search for the hidden birth certificate is a synecdoche for the idea that Obama is not really “one of us.”

As a public service:

syn·ec·do·che

–noun Rhetoric.
a figure of speech in which a part is used for the whole or the whole for a part, the special for the general or the general for the special, as in ten sail for ten ships or a Croesus for a rich man.

41 posted on 04/22/2011 2:49:37 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: AmericanVictory

So if being a “birther” is the SAME as believing the “Swiftboaters” (who’s evidence was NEVER disproven, not even by the MSM), then I am a birther after all. Even though I don’t want to be. I’m on record saying that I do think Obama was probably born in HI, I am just baffled by all of the efforts to shut up people who are simply asking questions about the COLB.


42 posted on 04/22/2011 2:53:03 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Gail Wynand
I would like to see what is in Box #23.


43 posted on 04/22/2011 2:58:26 PM PDT by kabar
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To: libstripper

The author writes as though Corsi writing about John Kerry and the Swiftboats should be held against Corsi.

Mr Corsi helped save us from electing the cowardly war criminal with the band-aid purple hearts from the White House.

Hopefully he can help us to put this fake president out of Public Housing.


44 posted on 04/22/2011 3:03:33 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: libstripper

So Corsi’s being accused of outing two frauds? Where’s the problem?


45 posted on 04/22/2011 3:06:27 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

So no-one including the Washington Post can prove what hospital he was born in and they think we’re crazy. The real truth is that they have so much invested in Obama that have to hang on at all costs. In addition, what if it were proved that he wasn’t legit? No MSM could stand because they will have been stripped bare of any fig leaf of credibility they have for not outing him in the first place.


46 posted on 04/22/2011 3:12:52 PM PDT by wewereright
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Yep. Obama was perfectly happy to see Col. Lakin’s life and career ruined for his own selfish purposes.

Today our local radio has had on the news every hour the story of ‘a soldier who refused to obey order. Col. Lakin was sentenced to 6 months, etc. etc., etc.’ My memory is that he was sentenced in December and taken right off to Leavenworth. Is there a reason it’s on news today (4/11/11)?


47 posted on 04/22/2011 3:13:08 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: libstripper
Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?

Because this 'conspiracy' is 1,000% Obama's fault for refusing to do what any rational, honest and above board individual would have done the first time a question was raised: release his original Hawaiian birth certificate from 1961.

It's so simple.

48 posted on 04/22/2011 3:45:55 PM PDT by Will88
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To: rockvillem

Good points.

As far as “Swiftboating” is concerned a little
history is in order. In modern prez/vp political
campaigns Dan Quayle was the first candidate to
be ripped about his failure to serve in the military
in a war zone. This was true even though WWII com-
bat fighter pilot GHW Bush was at the top of the tic-
ket. That Dem strategy failed. In ‘92 the GOP tried
to return the favor by attacking Clinton. It didn’t
work for the GOP either. In fact Kerry stuck-up for
Clinton. In ‘96 the GOP tried this tactic again with
WWII combat wounded Bob Dole against the incumbent
Clinton. The tactic still didn’t work. In ‘00 the
Dems took their shots at GW’s military record and,
again, the tactic failed.

So, by ‘04 one would think that both parties would
give up on playing the war record card, but not Kerry.
He whooped it out against an incumbent GOP prez and
got called on his own record. Boo freakin’ hoo for
him.

On a side note, in ‘08 it appeared that the GOP did
not play the military service card although McCain’s
POW experience was a bit of a human interest story.
Anyone want to bet that the Dems won’t dredge the
military record issue up the next time they get the
chance?


49 posted on 04/22/2011 4:04:15 PM PDT by Sivad (NorCal Red Turf)
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To: libstripper

“Why is the ludicrous birther conspiracy theory so widespread?”

Because Soetoro’s spent $2M to hide all his documentation. Duh.


50 posted on 04/22/2011 4:10:55 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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